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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 21:21:56 GMT
Good post. Personally I was totally shocked we didn't bring one in during pre-season, but didn't want to sound negative. I can see the point but we have 6 players who could play. Ryan. Wooly. Geoff. Muni. Wilson. and Tex who would have thought they would all get injured. I've had that discussion with my mate earlier in the season. i saw it at the time as, I think Ryan was suffering with his back at the end of TP's reign, wooly, well, wasn't the best, Geoff was an unknown in the centre and was being questioned by many with his positioning and odd niggles, muni was injured as often as he was fit, Wilson ditto, tex, as I'd heard, was struggling at this level. I'm not trying to say I was right, as I hoped I'd be proven wrong, but the clues really were there. if I'm honest I was moaning to family about quality cb cover after hughesie first season. i didn't want to moan as I bloody love mark hughes
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Post by jezzascfc on Feb 13, 2016 21:28:36 GMT
I can see the point but we have 6 players who could play. Ryan. Wooly. Geoff. Muni. Wilson. and Tex who would have thought they would all get injured. When the Jan window opened, Muni was still injured (and even before today looked injury prone) and Geoff was playing in MF. Tex wasn't considered remotely good enough, (and to be honest, despite what's been said on this thread, I'll still be sh!tting myself if he has to start), which meant our cover for CH & LB was Wilson. Few people on here seem to rate Wilson as good enough. We should have at least been considering looking for some better cover, even on a short-term loan. Geoff getting injured should, in my view, have made it a priority. By the time Shawcross got injured it was probably too late. Wilson getting crocked added to our woes, as did Muni going off today - though I can't say it was a surprise to see Muni pulling up again. The situation we're in now could, and should, have been avoided. Just my opinion. Of those 6, with a couple of days of the window left, we had only Muniesa (very injury prone) and Wollscheid fit to start, with Tex as very distant, "if we have no one else" type cover, and the others still due to be out for a number of weeks. That we did not try to bring experienced cover in (if we really did not) was a dereliction of duty.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 21:32:27 GMT
When the Jan window opened, Muni was still injured (and even before today looked injury prone) and Geoff was playing in MF. Tex wasn't considered remotely good enough, (and to be honest, despite what's been said on this thread, I'll still be sh!tting myself if he has to start), which meant our cover for CH & LB was Wilson. Few people on here seem to rate Wilson as good enough. We should have at least been considering looking for some better cover, even on a short-term loan. Geoff getting injured should, in my view, have made it a priority. By the time Shawcross got injured it was probably too late. Wilson getting crocked added to our woes, as did Muni going off today - though I can't say it was a surprise to see Muni pulling up again. The situation we're in now could, and should, have been avoided. Just my opinion. Of those 6, with a couple of days of the window left, we had only Muniesa (very injury prone) and Wollscheid fit to start, with Tex as very distant, "if we have no one else" type cover, and the others still due to be out for a number of weeks. That we did not try to bring experienced cover in (if we really did not) was a dereliction of duty. I understand that but how many CB's do we need ? we have a limited squad (25 + under 21's) with 6 who can play CB we needed cover in other areas to be sorted first and Natalie Imbula was the priority.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 13, 2016 21:36:01 GMT
Of those 6, with a couple of days of the window left, we had only Muniesa (very injury prone) and Wollscheid fit to start, with Tex as very distant, "if we have no one else" type cover, and the others still due to be out for a number of weeks. That we did not try to bring experienced cover in (if we really did not) was a dereliction of duty. I understand that but how many CB's do we need ? we have a limited squad (25 + under 21's) with 6 who can play CB we needed cover in other areas to be sorted first and Natalie Imbula was the priority. Natalie cursed Muniesa today. "Something's wrong it's torn, it's his leg again, time for Johnny Tex."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 21:36:33 GMT
Ha ha because I don't rate a defender? Give me strength ha ha ha I'm just fed up of fans who say, "he was great today, but he's shit". Total mind bending bollocks. It's like, "I'm not racist, but......" Who's said he's shit?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 21:38:39 GMT
I understand that but how many CB's do we need ? we have a limited squad (25 + under 21's) with 6 who can play CB we needed cover in other areas to be sorted first and Natalie Imbula was the priority. Natalie cursed Muniesa today. "Something's wrong it's torn, it's his leg again, time for Johnny Tex."
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Post by jezzascfc on Feb 13, 2016 21:41:03 GMT
Of those 6, with a couple of days of the window left, we had only Muniesa (very injury prone) and Wollscheid fit to start, with Tex as very distant, "if we have no one else" type cover, and the others still due to be out for a number of weeks. That we did not try to bring experienced cover in (if we really did not) was a dereliction of duty. I understand that but how many CB's do we need ? we have a limited squad (25 + under 21's) with 6 who can play CB we needed cover in other areas to be sorted first and Natalie Imbula was the priority. I was advocating looking for experienced cover only on loan in late January, although I do feel we need to examine our options back there and maybe bring another one in permanently in the summer (with one or two leaving).
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Feb 13, 2016 21:44:45 GMT
Go on John
mint, good seeing the lad given a go.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 21:45:22 GMT
I understand that but how many CB's do we need ? we have a limited squad (25 + under 21's) with 6 who can play CB we needed cover in other areas to be sorted first and Natalie Imbula was the priority. I was advocating looking for experienced cover only on loan in late January, although I do feel we need to examine our options back there and maybe bring another one in permanently in the summer (with one or two leaving). I agree we do need to overhaul the CB's in the summer, I'm sure though LMH thought he had cover but to have them all injured is bizarre circumstances which he did not see coming, hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Feb 13, 2016 21:47:18 GMT
Fair play tex, I was bricking it when you came on but you were solid and no messing. Not cultured but you defended today.
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Post by adamsson on Feb 13, 2016 21:47:26 GMT
When the Jan window opened, Muni was still injured (and even before today looked injury prone) and Geoff was playing in MF. Tex wasn't considered remotely good enough, (and to be honest, despite what's been said on this thread, I'll still be sh!tting myself if he has to start), which meant our cover for CH & LB was Wilson. Few people on here seem to rate Wilson as good enough. We should have at least been considering looking for some better cover, even on a short-term loan. Geoff getting injured should, in my view, have made it a priority. By the time Shawcross got injured it was probably too late. Wilson getting crocked added to our woes, as did Muni going off today - though I can't say it was a surprise to see Muni pulling up again. The situation we're in now could, and should, have been avoided. Just my opinion. Of those 6, with a couple of days of the window left, we had only Muniesa (very injury prone) and Wollscheid fit to start, with Tex as very distant, "if we have no one else" type cover, and the others still due to be out for a number of weeks. That we did not try to bring experienced cover in (if we really did not) was a dereliction of duty. I quite agree why oh why oh why didn't he buy one of the many many top class international centre backs who would happily sign up to be cover for when the first second third and fourth choice players are injured. I mean it would only have been about £5 million transfer fee, a million or so in agent fees and about £3 million in wages.
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Post by jezzascfc on Feb 13, 2016 21:56:17 GMT
Of those 6, with a couple of days of the window left, we had only Muniesa (very injury prone) and Wollscheid fit to start, with Tex as very distant, "if we have no one else" type cover, and the others still due to be out for a number of weeks. That we did not try to bring experienced cover in (if we really did not) was a dereliction of duty. I quite agree why oh why oh why didn't he buy one of the many many top class international centre backs who would happily sign up to be cover for when the first second third and fourth choice players are injured. I mean it would only have been about £5 million transfer fee, a million or so in agent fees and about £3 million in wages. See above - loan. Surely there must have been one or two decent options who were not getting a game for another club that would have relished the chance to stake a claim at Stoke, even just in the short term to put them in the shop window? It was up to our scouting system to locate them.
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Post by baystokie on Feb 13, 2016 22:25:26 GMT
I quite agree why oh why oh why didn't he buy one of the many many top class international centre backs who would happily sign up to be cover for when the first second third and fourth choice players are injured. I mean it would only have been about £5 million transfer fee, a million or so in agent fees and about £3 million in wages. See above - loan. Surely there must have been one or two decent options who were not getting a game for another club that would have relished the chance to stake a claim at Stoke, even just in the short term to put them in the shop window? It was up to our scouting system to locate them. Maybe the reason these options were not getting games was that their clubs did not consider them 'decent' options in the first place? Alternatively, our scouting team did locate some who were prepared to play in the short term but LMH did not think they were 'decent' options. There's no 'surely' about any transfer proposition.
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Post by malteser68 on Feb 13, 2016 22:31:26 GMT
Did very well today
Bravo Tex
Well done
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Post by burberrybassist on Feb 13, 2016 22:47:39 GMT
I heard work has already started on building his statue outside the Brit.. Tex, my hero!
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Post by ukcstokie on Feb 13, 2016 22:47:51 GMT
Did great today but hes been shocking all the other times I've seen him play, both pre-season and cup-matches. Hopefully he can carry on this path! But I'm pretty certain he's never played for us in the cups. And he was very good when played in Singapore. So I suspect like many, a view of Tex has been arrived at based on views of a few posters who attend a few Under 21 matches and have decided he's shit.
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Post by corky on Feb 13, 2016 23:07:15 GMT
I must admit I was concerned when he came on. I even texted a mate: 'oh shit, Tex is coming on!' After a nervy couple of minutes he settled down well. Thought he was excellent considering this was his big chance and he must have felt nervous. Good stuff, Tex. Keep it up and continue improving and the sky's the limit.
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Post by Skankmonkey on Feb 13, 2016 23:18:02 GMT
This is quality. May need to give the album a few pre-match run outs so block 19 can pick up the tune... What key is it in to start then? Several. A different key in each stand would probably be most appropriate.
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Post by ryan4england on Feb 14, 2016 0:04:25 GMT
I'm just fed up of fans who say, "he was great today, but he's shit". Total mind bending bollocks. It's like, "I'm not racist, but......" Who's said he's shit? There was a thread not too long ago where many were implying he should'nt get a chance even if we are desperate, considering every other position squad player to play there before a natural, Diouf, Crouch, Johnson, Walters & Pieters were all mentioned
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 0:06:24 GMT
What key is it in to start then? Several. A different key in each stand would probably be most appropriate. Maybe - Mister Zoot Horn Rollo, should hit that long (lunar,looming,leaning) note, and let it float.
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Post by Skankmonkey on Feb 14, 2016 0:13:18 GMT
Several. A different key in each stand would probably be most appropriate. Maybe - Mister Zoot Horn Rollo, should hit that long (lunar,looming,leaning) note, and let it float. That's right, and the Mascara Snake should be fast and bulbous - like a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag.
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Post by swampySCFC on Feb 14, 2016 0:16:41 GMT
We desperately need a CH and if Tex can step up then brilliant
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 14, 2016 0:23:46 GMT
Be interesting to see how he'd do alongside Ryan who brings the best out of his partners.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Feb 14, 2016 0:54:29 GMT
Maybe - Mister Zoot Horn Rollo, should hit that long (lunar,looming,leaning) note, and let it float. That's right, and the Mascara Snake should be fast and bulbous - like a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag. Must admit my attempt at Texas as a kind of anthem for Teix looks a bit lame nah.
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Post by 2004 on Feb 14, 2016 1:26:02 GMT
Erm he got through it :-D. Let's hope Ryan is back for the Villa game.
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Post by Skankmonkey on Feb 14, 2016 1:27:28 GMT
That's right, and the Mascara Snake should be fast and bulbous - like a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag. Must admit my attempt at Texas as a kind of anthem for Teix looks a bit lame nah. Dunna worry mate. Just an Old Fart at Play here.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Feb 14, 2016 1:47:59 GMT
Must admit my attempt at Texas as a kind of anthem for Teix looks a bit lame nah. Dunna worry mate. Just an Old Fart at Play here. No fear here it's all good mucka, nice to see you and Flash riffing off of Beefheart. Matching Moles etc. There's generally a Vliet couplet for every occasion. One for Sparky.
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Post by Northy on Feb 14, 2016 7:17:54 GMT
When the Jan window opened, Muni was still injured (and even before today looked injury prone) and Geoff was playing in MF. Tex wasn't considered remotely good enough, (and to be honest, despite what's been said on this thread, I'll still be sh!tting myself if he has to start), which meant our cover for CH & LB was Wilson. Few people on here seem to rate Wilson as good enough. We should have at least been considering looking for some better cover, even on a short-term loan. Geoff getting injured should, in my view, have made it a priority. By the time Shawcross got injured it was probably too late. Wilson getting crocked added to our woes, as did Muni going off today - though I can't say it was a surprise to see Muni pulling up again. The situation we're in now could, and should, have been avoided. Just my opinion. Of those 6, with a couple of days of the window left, we had only Muniesa (very injury prone) and Wollscheid fit to start, with Tex as very distant, "if we have no one else" type cover, and the others still due to be out for a number of weeks. That we did not try to bring experienced cover in (if we really did not) was a dereliction of duty. Or maybe Hughes and his team had a better understanding of what was going on than us lot on here ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 14, 2016 7:29:19 GMT
Lad did well - can only get better with the experience. The hysteria was a little premature!!.....as per normal. Hysteria?? On here?? Never !!!! =Ali Dia God and only knows how he ever got a deal here. Future captain. Leader. Legend. He plays like a competition winner. Dreadful footballer.
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Post by ohbottom on Feb 14, 2016 8:53:52 GMT
See above - loan. Surely there must have been one or two decent options who were not getting a game for another club that would have relished the chance to stake a claim at Stoke, even just in the short term to put them in the shop window? It was up to our scouting system to locate them. Maybe the reason these options were not getting games was that their clubs did not consider them 'decent' options in the first place? Alternatively, our scouting team did locate some who were prepared to play in the short term but LMH did not think they were 'decent' options. There's no 'surely' about any transfer proposition. Even after Shawcross got injured, MH said he didn't see any need to bring in cover so I think it's safe to say they weren't looking before that! Looking but not finding is understandable, not looking seems to me a mistake.
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