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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 8, 2016 21:13:56 GMT
He's not Huth's direct replacement. Squad game. Shit argument. You give him an easy ride and you fucking know it. Hypocritical, pathetic, you in a nutshell...... You could have told the manager that at Christmas! We swapped Wolly for Huth. That is poor business. Once he starts making the mistakes week in, week out he'll get it. I haven't given him an easy ride after Saturday. None of the back 4 have been given one.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 21:17:19 GMT
Squad game. Shit argument. You give him an easy ride and you fucking know it. Hypocritical, pathetic, you in a nutshell...... You could have told the manager that at Christmas! We swapped Wolly for Huth. That is poor business. Once he starts making the mistakes week in, week out he'll get it. I haven't given him an easy ride after Saturday. None of the back 4 have been given one. What a crock of shit. You've got a blind spot to Muniesa's faults and an unhealthy dislike of Wollscheid. Just have the balls to admit it and stop churning out the same repetitive shite.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 8, 2016 21:23:54 GMT
You could have told the manager that at Christmas! We swapped Wolly for Huth. That is poor business. Once he starts making the mistakes week in, week out he'll get it. I haven't given him an easy ride after Saturday. None of the back 4 have been given one. What a crock of shit. You've got a blind spot to Muniesa's faults and an unhealthy dislike of Wollscheid. Just have the balls to admit it and stop churning out the same repetitive shite. Not at all, he chases the ball way too much (and that has to stop) and is weak in the air (but I think it doesn't hinder him as much as people suggest). Like Wolly he plays better with Ryan but he makes a better partnership and we play better football with him in the side. My dislike of Wolly is exactly the same as my dislike for the other centre backs from Doobs to Wilson that we have seen play regularly and be very poor, error strewn defenders.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 8, 2016 22:20:40 GMT
I wanted him going out to a Championship club so he could get fit and then be recalled. It was clear he needed games. I think that's what most people thought Bayern and when it was another premier league team it was greeted with shock on here Apparently according to a member of admin it was not, pretty sure it was myself but there you go no matter it was a shit decision but not as shit as the decision to sell him and replace him with Wolfy or was it the injury prone vertically challenged Muni the waters have been clouded but not really we sell Huth then sign Wolfy yep he was his direct replacement no amount of bovine excrement will change that, good business or stupidity ?
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 8, 2016 22:23:41 GMT
What a crock of shit. You've got a blind spot to Muniesa's faults and an unhealthy dislike of Wollscheid. Just have the balls to admit it and stop churning out the same repetitive shite. Not at all, he chases the ball way too much (and that has to stop) and is weak in the air (but I think it doesn't hinder him as much as people suggest). Like Wolly he plays better with Ryan but he makes a better partnership and we play better football with him in the side. My dislike of Wolly is exactly the same as my dislike for the other centre backs from Doobs to Wilson that we have seen play regularly and be very poor, error strewn defenders. To be fair he was not as bad as some on Saturday but that really does not say a lot, his partner looks so out of his depth we need Ryan back asap.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 8, 2016 22:28:22 GMT
Not at all, he chases the ball way too much (and that has to stop) and is weak in the air (but I think it doesn't hinder him as much as people suggest). Like Wolly he plays better with Ryan but he makes a better partnership and we play better football with him in the side. My dislike of Wolly is exactly the same as my dislike for the other centre backs from Doobs to Wilson that we have seen play regularly and be very poor, error strewn defenders. To be fair he was not as bad as some on Saturday but that really does not say a lot, his partner looks so out of his depth we need Ryan back asap. Disagree. He made an error for the first and the third is all on him. Only Johnson was worse. They were all atrocious though.
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Post by Davef on Feb 8, 2016 22:36:15 GMT
I think that's what most people thought Bayern and when it was another premier league team it was greeted with shock on here Apparently according to a member of admin it was not, pretty sure it was myself It wasn't.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 8, 2016 22:47:52 GMT
Apparently according to a member of admin it was not, pretty sure it was myself It wasn't. Is that a fact ?, very odd decision it makes you wonder what the hell was going on, surely it can not be linked to the cock or nien cock incident on twatter that would be infantile would it not. ?
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Post by jarhead on Feb 8, 2016 22:49:36 GMT
Jesus wept. Robert Huth is in a table-topping side (and good luck to him). Leicester are not top just because of Robert Huth. I swear some of you cunts take pleasure in running down our football club... Totally agree. They love Stoke losing to put the boot in. Let's go back a few months. Robert Huth had knee surgery, he was allowed to go out on Loan to a lower premier league side in Leicseter City, they could of gone down. They stayed up and they signed him, and now they are having a miracle season. Brilliant, I hope they win it. Mark Hughes the bloke who's got us TWO top ten finishes and more points than the previous twat ever would Is getting pelters from SO CALLED SUPPORTERS for one decision he made, LCFC are not top because of Rob Huth he's a big help but look at that front four they are on fire. At the beginning of the season 1 by 1 would any stoke fan swap them for any one of our Fab four??? Not in hell would they.(they were nearly relegated) so anyone who says yes is lying. It's just one hell of a season from them and they have had no long term injuries, they are the most settled prem side to date, it's huge in this league, good luck to them. But can we please now support OUR Stoke city and the manager, is it to hard to ask? We can bang the drum for ever more about past players etc but so what, Hughes ain't daft, in the summer he will address the situation at the back, signing players do take time, the modern game is complicated at times in signing players but he will. We do need better cover or a very good centre-back to partner Ryan and Wolly as cover who is very good on his day. In Hughes we trust surely after what he's achieve already and nearly got us to a major final, in fact one penalty save away from us planning our trip to Wembley but it's Easier to actually hammer him! Well done folks you must be so proud. We know we are in a poor run but we all know how we can play, Ryan being out most of the season has not helped he's our captain fantastic, just look at Mega Money Man City without Kompany, they are shambles at the back. I rest my case. Come on Stoke
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 8, 2016 22:51:10 GMT
To be fair he was not as bad as some on Saturday but that really does not say a lot, his partner looks so out of his depth we need Ryan back asap. Disagree. He made an error for the first and the third is all on him. Only Johnson was worse. They were all atrocious though. ???????????? the first and third were down to the Wolf man, Johnson is what we knew he is when we signed him good going forward a bit shit defending, never been any different.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Feb 8, 2016 22:51:04 GMT
Jesus wept. Robert Huth is in a table-topping side (and good luck to him). Leicester are not top just because of Robert Huth. I swear some of you cunts take pleasure in running down our football club... Totally agree. They love Stoke losing to put the boot in. Let's go back a few months. Robert Huth had knee surgery, he was allowed to go out on Loan to a lower premier league side in Leicseter City, they could of gone down. They stayed up and they signed him, and now they are having a miracle season. Brilliant, I hope they win it. Mark Hughes the bloke who's got us TWO top ten finishes and more points than the previous twat ever would Is getting pelters from SO CALLED SUPPORTERS for one decision he made, LCFC are not top because of Rob Huth he's a big help but look at that front four they are on fire. At the beginning of the season 1 by 1 would any stoke fan swap them for any one of our Fab four??? Not in hell would they.(they were nearly relegated) so anyone who says yes is lying. It's just one hell of a season from them and they have had no long term injuries, they are the most settled prem side to date, it's huge in this league, good luck to them. But can we please now support OUR Stoke city and the manager, is it to hard to ask? We can bang the drum for ever more about past players etc but so what, Hughes ain't daft, in the summer he will address the situation at the back, signing players do take time, the modern game is complicated at times in signing players but he will. We do need better cover or a very good centre-back to partner Ryan and Wolly as cover who is very good on his day. In Hughes we trust surely after what he's achieve already and nearly got us to a major final, in fact one penalty save away from us planning our trip to Wembley but it's Easier to actually hammer him! Well done folks you must be so proud. We know we are in a poor run but we all know how we can play, Ryan being out most of the season has not helped he's our captain fantastic, just look at Mega Money Man City without Kompany, they are shambles at the back. I rest my case. Come on Stoke How's Rory Decrap going on mate?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 8, 2016 22:51:50 GMT
Disagree. He made an error for the first and the third is all on him. Only Johnson was worse. They were all atrocious though. ???????????? the first and third were down to the Wolf man, Johnson is what we knew he is when we signed him good going forward a bit shit defending, never been any different. Crossed wires sorry....I was about on Wolly.
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Post by Davef on Feb 8, 2016 22:54:35 GMT
Is that a fact ?, very odd decision it makes you wonder what the hell was going on, surely it can not be linked to the cock or nien cock incident on twatter that would be infantile would it not. ? It wasn't treated with shock for the simple reason that Huth had played less than ten minutes of football in over twelve months, the team was doing well and it was considered by most to be a good move to give him the first team football that he wanted and needed. The decision to sell him and buy Wollscheid is a completely separate issue and if you feel that's a mistake based on Huth finding form and fitness at Leicester and Wollscheid's performance on loan at Stoke then it's a valid opinion which I'm not particularly going to argue with.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 8, 2016 22:55:41 GMT
Jesus wept. Robert Huth is in a table-topping side (and good luck to him). Leicester are not top just because of Robert Huth. I swear some of you cunts take pleasure in running down our football club... Totally agree. They love Stoke losing to put the boot in. Let's go back a few months. Robert Huth had knee surgery, he was allowed to go out on Loan to a lower premier league side in Leicseter City, they could of gone down. They stayed up and they signed him, and now they are having a miracle season. Brilliant, I hope they win it. Mark Hughes the bloke who's got us TWO top ten finishes and more points than the previous twat ever would Is getting pelters from SO CALLED SUPPORTERS for one decision he made, LCFC are not top because of Rob Huth he's a big help but look at that front four they are on fire. At the beginning of the season 1 by 1 would any stoke fan swap them for any one of our Fab four??? Not in hell would they.(they were nearly relegated) so anyone who says yes is lying. It's just one hell of a season from them and they have had no long term injuries, they are the most settled prem side to date, it's huge in this league, good luck to them. But can we please now support OUR Stoke city and the manager, is it to hard to ask? We can bang the drum for ever more about past players etc but so what, Hughes ain't daft, in the summer he will address the situation at the back, signing players do take time, the modern game is complicated at times in signing players but he will. We do need better cover or a very good centre-back to partner Ryan and Wolly as cover who is very good on his day. In Hughes we trust surely after what he's achieve already and nearly got us to a major final, in fact one penalty save away from us planning our trip to Wembley but it's Easier to actually hammer him! Well done folks you must be so proud. We know we are in a poor run but we all know how we can play, Ryan being out most of the season has not helped he's our captain fantastic, just look at Mega Money Man City without Kompany, they are shambles at the back. I rest my case. Come on Stoke Fair enough, now can you explain why Hughes has failed to sign a decent Premiership quality CB in two transfer windows please ?
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 8, 2016 23:00:29 GMT
Is that a fact ?, very odd decision it makes you wonder what the hell was going on, surely it can not be linked to the cock or nien cock incident on twatter that would be infantile would it not. ? It wasn't treated with shock for the simple reason that Huth had played less than ten minutes of football in over twelve months, the team was doing well and it was considered by most to be a good move to give him the first team football that he wanted and needed. The decision to sell him and buy Wollscheid is a completely separate issue and if you feel that's a mistake based on Huth finding form and fitness at Leicester and Wollscheid's performance on loan at Stoke then it's a valid opinion which I'm not particularly going to argue with. Any idea why our manager deemed that he should only play 10 mins in a season, we were one injury away from Wilson starting every week is that good management ?
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Post by jarhead on Feb 8, 2016 23:01:00 GMT
Totally agree. They love Stoke losing to put the boot in. Let's go back a few months. Robert Huth had knee surgery, he was allowed to go out on Loan to a lower premier league side in Leicseter City, they could of gone down. They stayed up and they signed him, and now they are having a miracle season. Brilliant, I hope they win it. Mark Hughes the bloke who's got us TWO top ten finishes and more points than the previous twat ever would Is getting pelters from SO CALLED SUPPORTERS for one decision he made, LCFC are not top because of Rob Huth he's a big help but look at that front four they are on fire. At the beginning of the season 1 by 1 would any stoke fan swap them for any one of our Fab four??? Not in hell would they.(they were nearly relegated) so anyone who says yes is lying. It's just one hell of a season from them and they have had no long term injuries, they are the most settled prem side to date, it's huge in this league, good luck to them. But can we please now support OUR Stoke city and the manager, is it to hard to ask? We can bang the drum for ever more about past players etc but so what, Hughes ain't daft, in the summer he will address the situation at the back, signing players do take time, the modern game is complicated at times in signing players but he will. We do need better cover or a very good centre-back to partner Ryan and Wolly as cover who is very good on his day. In Hughes we trust surely after what he's achieve already and nearly got us to a major final, in fact one penalty save away from us planning our trip to Wembley but it's Easier to actually hammer him! Well done folks you must be so proud. We know we are in a poor run but we all know how we can play, Ryan being out most of the season has not helped he's our captain fantastic, just look at Mega Money Man City without Kompany, they are shambles at the back. I rest my case. Come on Stoke How's Rory Decrap going on mate? Eh? What he got to do with anything mutt? Rory was part of the horrific brand of football the baggies are loving now under that boring twat!!! And footballing wise Decrap in my opinion was crap unless throwing it, his passing and control were laughable but I can't knock his commitment but on actual footballing ability again mutt in (my opinion) he was abysmal. Mark Hughes at least TRYS to win football matches. The pulis brand did work (just),but watching it week in week out was painful and going to Games were a serious chore and you know it. I work with two baggies fans. What I told them how he would operate and patronise them would happen and they say I was spot on and fights between them-selves broke out at Newcastle because of the abysmal brand he still dishes up after spending millions.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Feb 8, 2016 23:03:19 GMT
How's Rory Decrap going on mate? Eh? What he got to do with anything mutt? Rory was part of the horrific brand of football the baggies are loving now under that boring twat!!! And footballing wise Decrap in my opinion was crap unless throwing it, his passing and control were laughable but I can't knock his commitment but on actual footballing ability again mutt in (my opinion) he was abysmal. Mark Hughes at least TRYS to win football matches. The pulis brand did work (just),but watching it week in week out was painful and going to Games were a serious chore and you know it. I work with two baggies fans. What I told them how he would operate and patronise them would happen and they say I was spot on and fights between them-selves broke out at Newcastle because of the abysmal brand he still dishes up after spending millions. What it means is you seem to have developed a short memory when it comes to getting behind our team and players mate :-) that's all
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Post by Davef on Feb 8, 2016 23:06:43 GMT
It wasn't treated with shock for the simple reason that Huth had played less than ten minutes of football in over twelve months, the team was doing well and it was considered by most to be a good move to give him the first team football that he wanted and needed. The decision to sell him and buy Wollscheid is a completely separate issue and if you feel that's a mistake based on Huth finding form and fitness at Leicester and Wollscheid's performance on loan at Stoke then it's a valid opinion which I'm not particularly going to argue with. Any idea why our manager deemed that he should only play 10 mins in a season, we were one injury away from Wilson starting every week is that good management ? Because he'd had two knee operations and then suffered a calf injury which kept him out for two months.
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Post by jarhead on Feb 8, 2016 23:09:34 GMT
carpslayer.
You need to ask Mark Hughes that question.
Like I said it takes a while and the right price for players to sign in today's market.
He's tracked Imbula for a while and he looks a real talent. Wilson will be off the books in the summer to free up space and maybe Bardsley.
Who could we possibly sign though in your opinion because all teams are after a quality prem centre/back.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 8, 2016 23:42:18 GMT
carpslayer. You need to ask Mark Hughes that question. Like I said it takes a while and the right price for players to sign in today's market. He's tracked Imbula for a while and he looks a real talent. Wilson will be off the books in the summer to free up space and maybe Bardsley. Who could we possibly sign though in your opinion because all teams are after a quality prem centre/back. Shame we sold one that would have fitted the bill, still we have Wolfy for the same price good business or not ? simple question yes or no.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 8, 2016 23:44:58 GMT
Any idea why our manager deemed that he should only play 10 mins in a season, we were one injury away from Wilson starting every week is that good management ? Because he'd had two knee operations and then suffered a calf injury which kept him out for two months. Did not seem to hinder him at Leicester, strange that great business Mark still we have the Wolf man instead oh joy oh joy
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Feb 9, 2016 0:14:12 GMT
You can always rely on the Oatcake for your daily dose of repetitive argumenting over a very short selection of topics.
I think tomorrow I'll start with a dabble of Tony Pulis' footballing philosophy, followed by an eruption of taste regarding filling in the corners and then finish off with a zesty, but crisp flurry into net-spend.
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Post by kustokie on Feb 9, 2016 1:07:49 GMT
Totally agree. They love Stoke losing to put the boot in. Let's go back a few months. Robert Huth had knee surgery, he was allowed to go out on Loan to a lower premier league side in Leicseter City, they could of gone down. They stayed up and they signed him, and now they are having a miracle season. Brilliant, I hope they win it. Mark Hughes the bloke who's got us TWO top ten finishes and more points than the previous twat ever would Is getting pelters from SO CALLED SUPPORTERS for one decision he made, LCFC are not top because of Rob Huth he's a big help but look at that front four they are on fire. At the beginning of the season 1 by 1 would any stoke fan swap them for any one of our Fab four??? Not in hell would they.(they were nearly relegated) so anyone who says yes is lying. It's just one hell of a season from them and they have had no long term injuries, they are the most settled prem side to date, it's huge in this league, good luck to them. But can we please now support OUR Stoke city and the manager, is it to hard to ask? We can bang the drum for ever more about past players etc but so what, Hughes ain't daft, in the summer he will address the situation at the back, signing players do take time, the modern game is complicated at times in signing players but he will. We do need better cover or a very good centre-back to partner Ryan and Wolly as cover who is very good on his day. In Hughes we trust surely after what he's achieve already and nearly got us to a major final, in fact one penalty save away from us planning our trip to Wembley but it's Easier to actually hammer him! Well done folks you must be so proud. We know we are in a poor run but we all know how we can play, Ryan being out most of the season has not helped he's our captain fantastic, just look at Mega Money Man City without Kompany, they are shambles at the back. I rest my case. Come on Stoke Fair enough, now can you explain why Hughes has failed to sign a decent Premiership quality CB in two transfer windows please ? Maybe there's no-one available that is a) good enough, b) willing to sign for a mid-table team, c) happy to sit on the bench (unlike Huth), d) all of the above.
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Post by manmarking on Feb 9, 2016 9:04:34 GMT
In the majority of cases, for "ball-playing centre-back", read "centre-back who can't defend". Cf. John Stones. Give me a centre back who can kill a man with a toothpick and smash the ball out the ground at the first sign of danger any day. A club in our position and on our budget will never sign a ball playing centre back who can do his primary defensive duties as well as Huth used to. ..I like the fact that Huth scores 2-3 goals a season. A valuable haul for a CB. Indeed. Remember the days when we used to score off corners? (Although to be fair I don't think Huth leaving is the only reason that's stopped).
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Post by Davef on Feb 9, 2016 9:17:26 GMT
Because he'd had two knee operations and then suffered a calf injury which kept him out for two months. Did not seem to hinder him at Leicester, strange that great business Mark still we have the Wolf man instead oh joy oh joy You're like a dog chasing its own tail.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 9, 2016 9:30:28 GMT
It was a huge error in judgement by the management team, possibly the biggest and most obvious in their time here but it’s gone now. We’ve not done too badly and he seems to be playing better than ever. What is abundantly clear now is that without Shawcross, none of our other centre halves are anywhere near consistent enough and none of them are able to take responsibility and lead a defence. Another area that we need a big purchase in, in the summer.
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Post by Gods on Feb 9, 2016 9:43:23 GMT
We have had a nightmare with the Robert Huth situation, no point in pretending otherwise, it doesn't make Hughes a bad manager, just one who made a mistake like any other from Bill Shankly to Alex Ferguson.
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Post by boweryboy on Feb 9, 2016 10:44:34 GMT
Huth was let go because Hughes did not trust him to take the ball off Butland and play from the back.....END OF....he favoured Wolly better equipped to do that,and the situation we have now is down to Hughes....nothing o do with his fitness or how the team was playing at the time.....his face didn't fit under Mark Hughes....I might be old fashioned but I like my defenders to be able to defend first and foremost ......this playing from the back and keeping the ball stats is boring to watch and quite frankly utter garbage.....I don't know about not trusting Huth, my hearts in my mouth when the ball is rolled out to any of our back four or so called wingers when they come deep for the ball,then don't know what to do with other than pass it back again or lose it......Ryan's back injury would have ment Huth would have started the season alongside Wolly,if Hughes had not swapped one for the other......and I'm dam sure Ryan would have come back in and replaced Wolly at that time,then leaving Wolly as back up....
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Post by jarhead on Feb 9, 2016 11:50:45 GMT
carpslayer. You need to ask Mark Hughes that question. Like I said it takes a while and the right price for players to sign in today's market. He's tracked Imbula for a while and he looks a real talent. Wilson will be off the books in the summer to free up space and maybe Bardsley. Who could we possibly sign though in your opinion because all teams are after a quality prem centre/back. Shame we sold one that would have fitted the bill, still we have Wolfy for the same price good business or not ? simple question yes or no. Good business yes At the time because he was struggling for fitness, Aint hindsight a brilliant thing to suit people's agenda and Wolly is a good defender and good age to build like so many players that we have, he was mom at Liverpool recently a ground we ain't won on since 1959 and that was after 120 mins of football. Credit where it's due. Like so mainly players lately, they are having a stinker and the loss of our captain is huge like it is for many clubs, if we had another Ryan type player should he be happy on the bench?? No of course not they all want to be playing simple reason Huth left to play football as Hughes at the time didn't fancy him. We move on.
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Post by jarhead on Feb 9, 2016 12:00:05 GMT
Mutt I support the club not Tony Pulis and his horrific brand of football and if people think we are boring Now after a poor three weeks and the work already done by Hughes then seriously they ain't got a clue about football and their opinions should be ignored.
I support Stoke city and I enjoy going to games under Mark Hughes is that ok with you?
We try to play decent football and Try to win games home and away, it's amazing what can be achieved when you do this.
The team, everyone connected right now in this blip need to regroup and come out fighting and when Cameron, Ryan are back and Imbula more settled we can still have a great season and another top ten finish or is this being to positive from me for some on this board or shall we put the boot in and get Mark the sack!
Get fuckin real.
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