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Post by Davef on Feb 8, 2016 20:28:21 GMT
The last time I saw Huth play for Stoke was against Wrexham in the cup, and he looked like he'd forgotten how to play the game. He also didn't look to be running or turning freely. I accept that a good number of people said at the time that we shouldn't have let him go, but I really don't understand on what grounds, other than what an awesome player he'd once been for us. I'll admit that watching him score from corners is a bit of a twat though. And how many games did he miss whilst on loan at Leicester from January on last season ?, not match fit feckin bull shit excuse by Hughes, by the way he is now a pretty awesome player for Leicester his goals are a bonus and one we no longer posses from any of our CB's. Hughes didn't actually say anything remotely like that before he was sent on loan to Leicester. The simple fact was that he'd been out injured for a long time and couldn't force his way into a team that was doing well. There were plenty of comments on this message board prior to Huthy's departure on loan. "A pale shadow of his former self" was one post after his appearance against Wrexham, many offered the opinion that he wouldn't be seen in a Stoke shirt again. You didn't bat an eyelid when he was sent on loan carpslayer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 20:30:24 GMT
Ooh he's like a kid at Christmas on this thread is carpslayer. I bet his little face is all lit up as he waxes lyrical about Huth whilst slagging off his own players......
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Feb 8, 2016 20:30:26 GMT
And how many games did he miss whilst on loan at Leicester from January on last season ?, not match fit feckin bull shit excuse by Hughes, by the way he is now a pretty awesome player for Leicester his goals are a bonus and one we no longer posses from any of our CB's. Hughes didn't actually say anything remotely like that before he was sent on loan to Leicester. The simple fact was that he'd been out injured for a long time and couldn't force his way into a team that was doing well. There are plenty of comments on this message board prior to Huthy's departure on loan. "A pale shadow of his former self" was one post after his appearance against Wrexham, many offered the opinion that he wouldn't be seen in a Stoke shirt again. You didn't bat an eyelid when he was sent on loan carpslayer. Dave with all due respect mate everyone's performance in that Wrexham game could be questioned
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 20:31:24 GMT
I remember there'd been talk of a bust-up between him and Hughes before he left on loan, so I'm assuming that once he'd done well at Leicester there was only one place he was going to be once his loan period had ended. So it was perhaps a case of cutting off your nose to spite your face, if that is the case it shows Hughes in a very bad light, personal issues should not take preference over what is best for your employers and our club. If such a bust-up took place, and I'm only going by something I read on here a while ago, then it would depend on the nature of the bust-up wouldn't it. Maybe Hughes felt getting rid was in the best interests of the club. Who knows?
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Post by Davef on Feb 8, 2016 20:34:57 GMT
Hughes didn't actually say anything remotely like that before he was sent on loan to Leicester. The simple fact was that he'd been out injured for a long time and couldn't force his way into a team that was doing well. There are plenty of comments on this message board prior to Huthy's departure on loan. "A pale shadow of his former self" was one post after his appearance against Wrexham, many offered the opinion that he wouldn't be seen in a Stoke shirt again. You didn't bat an eyelid when he was sent on loan carpslayer. Dave with all due respect mate everyone's performance in that Wrexham game could be questioned True, but there was no clamour to see him return to first team action around that time and his performance that day hardly convinced many that he he was ready. There was no uproar when he left on loan.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 8, 2016 20:35:25 GMT
And how many games did he miss whilst on loan at Leicester from January on last season ?, not match fit feckin bull shit excuse by Hughes, by the way he is now a pretty awesome player for Leicester his goals are a bonus and one we no longer posses from any of our CB's. Hughes didn't actually say anything remotely like that before he was sent on loan to Leicester. The simple fact was that he'd been out injured for a long time and couldn't force his way into a team that was doing well. There were plenty of comments on this message board prior to Huthy's departure on loan. "A pale shadow of his former self" was one post after his appearance against Wrexham, many offered the opinion that he wouldn't be seen in a Stoke shirt again. You didn't bat an eyelid when he was sent on loan carpslayer. You need to check pretty sure I did, if not on here then I apologise however I have plenty of witnesses to my thoughts on the loaning of Huth, once it was proved without doubt that he was infact match fit by not missing any game time at Leicester and been instrumental in saving them from almost nailed on relegation, do you think we should have sold him knowing the issues surrounding Ryan's back issues, do you think we had adequate cover including Wollschied when he was sold ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 20:36:28 GMT
Hughes didn't actually say anything remotely like that before he was sent on loan to Leicester. The simple fact was that he'd been out injured for a long time and couldn't force his way into a team that was doing well. There are plenty of comments on this message board prior to Huthy's departure on loan. "A pale shadow of his former self" was one post after his appearance against Wrexham, many offered the opinion that he wouldn't be seen in a Stoke shirt again. You didn't bat an eyelid when he was sent on loan carpslayer. Dave with all due respect mate everyone's performance in that Wrexham game could be questioned It was an absolutely abysmal performance from all of the starting 11 mate, but honestly, Huth barely looked like a footballer - to me anyway. I'm not being disparaging towards him. He was brilliant for us, but he genuinely looked finished as far as I could see. His resurrection is pretty much in line with everything else that's happening at Leicester at the moment.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Feb 8, 2016 20:36:52 GMT
Dave with all due respect mate everyone's performance in that Wrexham game could be questioned True, but there was no clamour to see him return to first team action around that time and his performance that day hardly convinced many that he he was ready. There was no uproar when he left on loan. Fair comment and I would say more raised eyebrows than uproar from many.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 8, 2016 20:38:04 GMT
So it was perhaps a case of cutting off your nose to spite your face, if that is the case it shows Hughes in a very bad light, personal issues should not take preference over what is best for your employers and our club. If such a bust-up took place, and I'm only going by something I read on here a while ago, then it would depend on the nature of the bust-up wouldn't it. Maybe Hughes felt getting rid was in the best interests of the club. Who knows? It may help if we knew why he was sold and why no adequate replacement was bought in the summer and again in January would it not.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 8, 2016 20:38:26 GMT
I wanted him going out to a Championship club so he could get fit and then be recalled.
It was clear he needed games.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Feb 8, 2016 20:39:49 GMT
I wanted him going out to a Championship club so he could get fit and then be recalled. It was clear he needed games. I think that's what most people thought Bayern and when it was another premier league team it was greeted with shock on here
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 20:40:03 GMT
If such a bust-up took place, and I'm only going by something I read on here a while ago, then it would depend on the nature of the bust-up wouldn't it. Maybe Hughes felt getting rid was in the best interests of the club. Who knows? It may help if we knew why he was sold and why no adequate replacement was bought in the summer and again in January would it not. It would, yes.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 8, 2016 20:40:08 GMT
Dave with all due respect mate everyone's performance in that Wrexham game could be questioned It was an absolutely abysmal performance from all of the starting 11 mate, but honestly, Huth barely looked like a footballer - to me anyway. I'm not being disparaging towards him. He was brilliant for us, but he genuinely looked finished as far as I could see. His resurrection is pretty much in line with everything else that's happening at Leicester at the moment. Looked ok at Leicester whilst on loan to everybody though apart from our manager of course.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 8, 2016 20:40:32 GMT
I wanted him going out to a Championship club so he could get fit and then be recalled. It was clear he needed games. I think that's what most people thought Bayern and when it was another premier league team it was greeted with shock on here Yeah I was told before it was common knowledge and I was very shocked.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 8, 2016 20:41:02 GMT
I wanted him going out to a Championship club so he could get fit and then be recalled. It was clear he needed games. I think that's what most people thought Bayern and when it was another premier league team it was greeted with shock on here It was and rightly so shocking decision.
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Post by robboleek on Feb 8, 2016 20:45:15 GMT
In fairness I have recently started working with a season ticket holder there and the second we started talking about him he said straight away that he kept them up single handed......... he said without him they would have been playing in the championship this season. He then went on and names their four best players this season, clearly Vardy, Marez, Kante and you know who.....
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Feb 8, 2016 20:46:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 20:50:21 GMT
A lot of hindsight Henry's on here.
Nobody was predicting this when he left. Not one person.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 8, 2016 20:52:09 GMT
A lot of hindsight Henry's on here. Nobody was predicting this when he left. Not one person. Not this exact scenario but quite a few of us didn't want him to leave especially after he proved his fitness and showed he wasn't past it. No hindsight there.
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Post by Davef on Feb 8, 2016 20:57:10 GMT
I think that's what most people thought Bayern and when it was another premier league team it was greeted with shock on here It was and rightly so shocking decision. How was it a shocking decision? And it really wasn't greeted with shock on here. He had barely played for a year. We were more than comfortable in the league and he was allowed to join a team which to all intents and purposes was dead and buried. Nobody could've foreseen the injury problems after he'd left, it was just cruel luck. Yet having said that, we still finished the season with our best defensive record since promotion. Selling him is a completely different argument and it pretty much depends if you're of the opinion that the club knew the full extent of Ryan's back problem. If they did there's little excuse in not moving to bring in cover, either by holding on to Huth - who'd proved his fitness - or bringing somebody else in.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 20:59:24 GMT
A lot of hindsight Henry's on here. Nobody was predicting this when he left. Not one person. Not this exact scenario but quite a few of us didn't want him to leave especially after he proved his fitness and showed he wasn't past it. No hindsight there. Which proves the point, if Leicester weren't where they are there wouldn't be this amount of crying over Huth. They've conceded only 4 less goals and are top by virtue of their forward play - exactly what is lacking at our club and has been all season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 8, 2016 21:00:21 GMT
Not this exact scenario but quite a few of us didn't want him to leave especially after he proved his fitness and showed he wasn't past it. No hindsight there. Which proves the point, if Leicester weren't where they are there wouldn't be this amount of crying over Huth. They've conceded only 4 less goals and are top by virtue of their forward play - exactly what is lacking at our club and has been all season. Maybe not but there would have been from me! Wolly is just fucking atrocious.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 21:02:46 GMT
Which proves the point, if Leicester weren't where they are there wouldn't be this amount of crying over Huth. They've conceded only 4 less goals and are top by virtue of their forward play - exactly what is lacking at our club and has been all season. Maybe not but there would have been from me! Wolly is just fucking atrocious. Yet your mate Muniesa gets off relatively scot free. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds......
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 8, 2016 21:03:33 GMT
Maybe not but there would have been from me! Wolly is just fucking atrocious. Yet your mate Muniesa gets off relatively scot free. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds...... He's not Huth's direct replacement.
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 8, 2016 21:05:31 GMT
It was an absolutely abysmal performance from all of the starting 11 mate, but honestly, Huth barely looked like a footballer - to me anyway. I'm not being disparaging towards him. He was brilliant for us, but he genuinely looked finished as far as I could see. His resurrection is pretty much in line with everything else that's happening at Leicester at the moment. Looked ok at Leicester whilst on loan to everybody though apart from our manager of course. Hughes clearly didn't like Huthy as a player in much the same way Woy doesn't seem to rate Ryan. It happens in football, it really is time you moved on, you're obsessed.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 8, 2016 21:06:35 GMT
Looked ok at Leicester whilst on loan to everybody though apart from our manager of course. Hughes clearly didn't like Huthy as a player in much the same way Woy doesn't seem to rate Ryan. It happens in football, it really is time you moved on, you're obsessed. That is very true but like Woy you have to question it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 21:07:10 GMT
Which proves the point, if Leicester weren't where they are there wouldn't be this amount of crying over Huth. They've conceded only 4 less goals and are top by virtue of their forward play - exactly what is lacking at our club and has been all season. Maybe not but there would have been from me! Wolly is just fucking atrocious. I think we all know you by now, bayern.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 21:09:07 GMT
Yet your mate Muniesa gets off relatively scot free. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds...... He's not Huth's direct replacement. Squad game. Shit argument. You give him an easy ride and you fucking know it. Hypocritical, pathetic, you in a nutshell......
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Post by LDE76 on Feb 8, 2016 21:09:56 GMT
It's actually getting to the point now where I'd rather read arguments about Tony Pulis.
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 8, 2016 21:13:07 GMT
Hughes clearly didn't like Huthy as a player in much the same way Woy doesn't seem to rate Ryan. It happens in football, it really is time you moved on, you're obsessed. That is very true but like Woy you have to question it. The same question has been asked a million times on here though
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