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Post by Northy on Jan 17, 2016 19:10:09 GMT
How is saying one of your players is currently in poor form mean your turning on them? It's been obvious for at least a month that Bojan has been the weakest link in the team, he's just not the same player this season. He was pretty much ok for the Christmas games, at least a month is a bit much |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 19:10:38 GMT
Had a good old think about this during the second half. I think I've got the answer. Boo him till he scores then cheer his name. That should do it. No one's booed him though have they? Posts like that jumping down the throat of anyone who offers fair and justified criticism are just as cringe worthy and embarrassing as those that deride any player who has an off game as; "wank" etc. How do you expect people to react when the OP puts up a title that one of our players is a passenger and that he's been poor for a month? Not one mention of a cruciate injury with no pre season and not one mention of a word of SUPPORT for the lad? |
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Jan 17, 2016 19:11:01 GMT
He tried his best today, it just didnt happen. Calm down, he tried. Give the guy some slack
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 17, 2016 19:11:54 GMT
Struggling with a bit of form but is still looking for the ball and trying to make things happen.
No issues with questioning his form and his position in the side BUT when fucktards come out with 'he isn't up for it' shit then it's time to pack up.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jan 17, 2016 19:17:25 GMT
Flair players survive on confidence. When it ain't happening the confidence goes a bit, just needs to break the circle with a good game under his belt and he wont do that sitting on the bench.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 17, 2016 19:18:03 GMT
its disgusting the way some people turn on our players, you're fucking shameful Ridiculous over action here How is saying he has been poor recently 'turning on our player'. It's not personal, it's just an opinion but you make it sound like its some kind of betrayal, and to frame it has been shameful is completely out of order imho. Get some perspective mate! It's a perfectly reasonable assertion to say that he's been poor of late ( which of course can be up for discussion) but this is not a reasonable response imho. |
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Post by fortressbritannia on Jan 17, 2016 19:20:38 GMT
In all honesty I think he plays better when Diouf plays upfront. I still maintain that MBD is our best striker. He takes defenders out of the game and is a lot more direct.
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 17, 2016 19:20:37 GMT
He's lacking a bit of confidence at the moment but he'll come good again sooner rather than later and I'd keep playing him.
He could do with a little trick or turn coming off early in a game and I think he'd build from that, at the moment he almost looks scared to try anything.
Definitely a confidence issue.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Jan 17, 2016 19:24:26 GMT
He's not fully recovered from that cruciate injury IMHO - this season was about gently reintroducing him and subbing him before tackles start to get weary and clumsy toward the last third - he'll be on fire next season.......
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Post by crownmeking on Jan 17, 2016 19:25:30 GMT
its disgusting the way some people turn on our players, you're fucking shameful Ridiculous over action here How is saying he has been poor recently 'turning on our player'. It's not personal, it's just an opinion but you make it sound like its some kind of betrayal, and to frame it has been shameful is completely out of order imho. Get some perspective mate! It's a perfectly reasonable assertion to say that he's been poor of late ( which of course can be up for discussion) but this is not a reasonable response imho. It is also ridiculous to call Bojan a passenger, how about the OP has a large dose of this perspective that you talk about! |
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 17, 2016 19:26:42 GMT
I thought he played OK today. Nowhere near the level he can reach but he wasn't a passenger.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 19:33:17 GMT
He definitely looks short of confidence which is strange.I suppose it doesn't help when you get substituted every game.
A short rest would do him the world of good in my opinion
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jan 17, 2016 19:42:19 GMT
I think the issue is with the word "passenger" which is a fucking ludicrous thing to call him. Discussing his form is fine, insulting him is not.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 17, 2016 19:48:13 GMT
Two things;
1. Bojan isn't playing well at the moment and anybody who questions people for suggesting as much, really needs to give their head a wobble, there's a strong argument to say that he shouldn't start against Leicester.
2. The OP does Bojan a massive disservice by suggesting he's been a 'passenger' recently. Calling a player a 'passenger' is to suggest that they aren't really putting the effort in or trying hard enough. Bojan certainly hasn't been a 'passenger' of late but yes, he's not been playing at all well lately. Hopefully the OP just had trouble articulating himself properly.
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Post by adi on Jan 17, 2016 20:15:07 GMT
Wow. Some of you need to have a word with yourselves. Last time I checked this was a forum. Calling people pathetic for pointing out that Bojan looks like he needs a rest? Had to double check this wasn't an Arsenal forum... The rules need checking to make sure no negative comments go on here... Christ.
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Post by bogus on Jan 17, 2016 23:11:22 GMT
He's become a bit of a marked man since his first half performance against Everton (just two weeks ago, not a month or so), which was outstanding. Norwich seemed to be doubling up on him, trebling at times, and he's not been allowed quite so much space, IMO, and been dropping very deep to try and get involved.
He's also played a LOT of football, in a short spell, for someone who's just come back from the injury that he's just had. Must have taken quite a bit out of him.
I thought he was better today than the last couple of games and feel pretty confident he'll have cracked it, or Stoke will crack it, in the near future.
Just one piece of magic should do the trick. Form is temporary......
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Post by maliciousdamage on Jan 17, 2016 23:18:25 GMT
Opposition putting two players on him (3 for Norwich at times) as he's a threat crushing his space to operate in no surprise today once he went off it allowed Arsenal to come out and play a bit as it effectively freed one of their men to move forwards more. Hughes just needs to find a solution to find him more space. He's much better for me back in the hole behind a front man though
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Post by fca47 on Jan 17, 2016 23:40:19 GMT
The inclusion in the team of Affelay has changed our game somewhat, the ball is taking longer to get to him. Especially in away games he was able ghost past retreating players, but now he usually has four or five players in front of him. Think Bojan is taking some time to adapt.
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Post by samba :) on Jan 17, 2016 23:41:43 GMT
Swings and roundabouts
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Post by potterglen on Jan 17, 2016 23:50:42 GMT
Arse packed the midfield in the first half, Bojan was doing diagonal runs looking for an outlet but bodies got in the way. He always makes himself available for the pass which doesn't always come, an average game for him but there's always that stroke of genius waiting to happen.
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Post by crouchie on Jan 18, 2016 0:03:29 GMT
i think it's a case of managing him through the rest of this season having a good summers rest instead of all the rehab he was doing last year
a full pre season and you will see a different player at the start of next season
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 18, 2016 0:06:28 GMT
Bojan has had 3 poor performances recently: Liverpool, West Brazil and today.
He looks tired; no pre-season can't be helping.
He is trying hard and is clearly one of oiur best players, maybe Hughes needs to pick and choose his games more carefully until he his back to his best.
I would play him at Leicester where we will have loads of possession because they defend pretty deep, but would leave him on the bench at Liverpool where there will be more pressure on our ball and less time and space where Boj likes to operate.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Jan 18, 2016 6:30:43 GMT
Strange situation. Hughes normally selects players on merit. Bojan needs a rest maybe, impact sub? THIS. it is plain for all to see that the guy needs a rest, a couple of weeks at least, the guy looks shattered physically and mentally. A rest may do the guy a world of good, get some tiredness out of his legs. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 18, 2016 8:49:56 GMT
He's started nearly every game in a very congested schedule after no pre season. I think he needs a break to recover.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jan 18, 2016 8:56:04 GMT
Calling him a passenger is just ignorant. He may not be at his best but he always looks for the ball and looks to make stuff happen. He doesn't hide when it's not going well. Not passenger behaviour. Exactly. Whilst he's not at the dizzying heights he reached last season and not making as much of a stamp on the game as we'd like he's far from being a passenger. I also think him and Arnie are missing Shaqiri. I love SJW but teams don't feel the need to double mark him like they do with Shaqiri and therefore there is more focus on Bojan and Arnie. |
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jan 18, 2016 9:13:57 GMT
I think the issue is with the word "passenger" which is a fucking ludicrous thing to call him. Discussing his form is fine, insulting him is not. 100% |
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Post by jeycov on Jan 18, 2016 9:24:40 GMT
He's become a bit of a marked man since his first half performance against Everton (just two weeks ago, not a month or so), which was outstanding. Norwich seemed to be doubling up on him, trebling at times, and he's not been allowed quite so much space, IMO, and been dropping very deep to try and get involved. He's also played a LOT of football, in a short spell, for someone who's just come back from the injury that he's just had. Must have taken quite a bit out of him. I thought he was better today than the last couple of games and feel pretty confident he'll have cracked it, or Stoke will crack it, in the near future. Just one piece of magic should do the trick. Form is temporary...... Spot on Teams are doing their homework and putting more than one player on him. (especially after his role in our win v Man City) He's also taken a few knocks from some pretty feisty tackles. If 2/3 opposition players are marking him then the opportunity is there to give the ball to someone else! - there are only 11 players in any team! He was unlucky with a couple of chances yesterday, a goal will do wonders for his confidence |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 9:27:41 GMT
In all honesty I think he plays better when Diouf plays upfront. I still maintain that MBD is our best striker. He takes defenders out of the game and is a lot more direct. There could be something in that to be honest, Diouf does stretch the game and give Bojan a bit more space to operate in. But Bojan has had good games in the recent 4-3-3 system too. I haven't gone back through his history but this could well be Bojan's first full season of his recent career (perhaps ever?). Prior to joining Stoke he'd been in and out of the team at Roma and Milan (and Ajax?), and he missed a huge chunk of last season too. I think the rigours of the Premier League without a winter break, and full pre season, has got to him. He looks heavy legged and tired, you can see that the timing of his passing and shooting is a little off. It's up to the management to assess what the problem is - give him a week in Barcelona, a short spell on the bench to get the freshness back, or more games - whatever it takes. He'll come good again quite soon. |
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Post by steakandchips on Jan 18, 2016 9:33:05 GMT
Looked the business vs Everton. Cut the kid some slack. If he was consistent then he wouldn't be playing for us.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 18, 2016 9:35:05 GMT
Two things;
1. Bojan isn't playing well at the moment and anybody who questions people for suggesting as much, really needs to give their head a wobble, there's a strong argument to say that he shouldn't start against Leicester.
2. The OP does Bojan a massive disservice by suggesting he's been a 'passenger' recently. Calling a player a 'passenger' is to suggest that they aren't really putting the effort in or trying hard enough. Bojan certainly hasn't been a 'passenger' of late but yes, he's not been playing at all well lately. Hopefully the OP just had trouble articulating himself properly.
I would play him against Leicester but rest him for Liverpool. I'd be resting Marko this Saturday, he's clearly carrying an injury. |
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