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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 26, 2015 21:57:50 GMT
The only thing about him... His shooting is poor. Maybe he is an Nzonzi replacement after all. To be fair his goal in the league cup was sublime, maybe he'll fill in the N'Zonzi mould in the sense that he only scores belters.
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Post by lordb on Dec 26, 2015 22:01:53 GMT
He had a great first half,struggled for fifteen minutes then rallied when the subs we're made. Cracking player.
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Post by trigger on Dec 26, 2015 22:04:34 GMT
Quickly becoming my favourite player, oozes in class and goes past players as if they're not there.
Fantastic player.
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Post by swampySCFC on Dec 26, 2015 22:08:08 GMT
He's a shoe in. Ireland was unplayable at Man City and not bad for us but the harsh reality is one or two need to trade down
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Dec 27, 2015 1:24:53 GMT
Fucking Quality. Proper player, loves the game, and full on Stoke. On a free?
'Afellay M'Lord...'
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Post by metalhead on Dec 27, 2015 2:41:46 GMT
The only thing about him... His shooting is poor. Maybe he is an Nzonzi replacement after all. I don't think his shooting has been too bad. The volley today was instinctive but he's had one cleared off the line and another inches wide. He's a seriously good player. I just wish he was 27, not 29.
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Post by mtrstudent on Dec 27, 2015 4:38:59 GMT
I thought he was a whinging primadonna made of tissue paper.
I was so wrong, there've been some good glimpses and after today's masterful first half performance I'm going to eat all the shit I said about you Ibrahim. I'm so happy to have been proven completely wrong, I think Whelan/Cameron/Afellay showed excellent balance against both manc clubs. Goaarrn lads!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 27, 2015 4:44:06 GMT
I'd still love to see him deeper (ooeer).
But he was class today. I just think he'd be better used back there and Bojan better where Afellay plays.
It could also allow Whelan to be rested.
Good options to have.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Dec 27, 2015 9:47:50 GMT
I'd still love to see him deeper (ooeer). But he was class today. I just think he'd be better used back there and Bojan better where Afellay plays. It could also allow Whelan to be rested. Good options to have. Afellay plays deep though. The graphics show him in the hole but he actually plays pretty much as a proper central midfielder. He's no further forward than whoever's playing alongside him, they're in a two with Whelan behind them.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 27, 2015 9:53:40 GMT
I'd still love to see him deeper (ooeer). But he was class today. I just think he'd be better used back there and Bojan better where Afellay plays. It could also allow Whelan to be rested. Good options to have. Afellay plays deep though. The graphics show him in the hole but he actually plays pretty much as a proper central midfielder. He's no further forward than whoever's playing alongside him, they're in a two with Whelan behind them. He does, like Adam last season and I think like Adam he is further forward (he was more advanced than Geoff) but it's still not a number 10. I'd like to see everyone drop back one. I don't think the false 9 particularly works and I think Afellay would damage teams more deeper with his passing and Bojan could do the same further forward.
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Post by fca47 on Dec 27, 2015 9:59:43 GMT
Doesn't seem to have the disastrous mistakes in him that Charlie has,every so often. Making the team tick at the moment, just what we have been looking for,
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Post by chiefdelilah on Dec 27, 2015 10:09:20 GMT
Afellay plays deep though. The graphics show him in the hole but he actually plays pretty much as a proper central midfielder. He's no further forward than whoever's playing alongside him, they're in a two with Whelan behind them. He does, like Adam last season and I think like Adam he is further forward (he was more advanced than Geoff) but it's still not a number 10. I'd like to see everyone drop back one. I don't think the false 9 particularly works and I think Afellay would damage teams more deeper with his passing and Bojan could do the same further forward. I think the false 9 has its problems but I think we should stick with it for now. I'm not at all convinced a DM is the priority in the window everyone seems to think it is though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 27, 2015 10:14:34 GMT
He does, like Adam last season and I think like Adam he is further forward (he was more advanced than Geoff) but it's still not a number 10. I'd like to see everyone drop back one. I don't think the false 9 particularly works and I think Afellay would damage teams more deeper with his passing and Bojan could do the same further forward. I think the false 9 has its problems but I think we should stick with it for now. I'm not at all convinced a DM is the priority in the window everyone seems to think it is though. I think we have to pick and choose with the games we use it. I'd go way more direct vs Everton for instance. Lots of crosses, almost two up front but with Walters playing where he did for TP and bombard their weak links (goalkeeper and centre backs). I'd love to see someone signed to play alongside Whelan but if Cameron can keep that level of passing game up and if Afellay can cope deeper then we won't need one. We need another fast winger desperately though.
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Post by Kjones9 on Dec 27, 2015 10:19:40 GMT
The only thing about him... His shooting is poor. Maybe he is an Nzonzi replacement after all. I don't think his shooting has been too bad. The volley today was instinctive but he's had one cleared off the line and another inches wide. He's a seriously good player. I just wish he was 27, not 29. Oh he is, most definatly. It's just when he has the chance to shoot, he winds himself up like he wants to twat it. Yet fails miserably.
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Post by jonnybravo on Dec 27, 2015 10:25:33 GMT
We need to give this lad a contact extention, I know he's got 18 months left but younger affaley your looking at 20 million
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Post by chiefdelilah on Dec 27, 2015 10:37:51 GMT
I think the false 9 has its problems but I think we should stick with it for now. I'm not at all convinced a DM is the priority in the window everyone seems to think it is though. I think we have to pick and choose with the games we use it. I'd go way more direct vs Everton for instance. Lots of crosses, almost two up front but with Walters playing where he did for TP and bombard their weak links (goalkeeper and centre backs). I'd love to see someone signed to play alongside Whelan but if Cameron can keep that level of passing game up and if Afellay can cope deeper then we won't need one. We need another fast winger desperately though. Yeah a winger is our one and possibly only priority this window imo.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 27, 2015 10:42:31 GMT
He does, like Adam last season and I think like Adam he is further forward (he was more advanced than Geoff) but it's still not a number 10. I'd like to see everyone drop back one. I don't think the false 9 particularly works and I think Afellay would damage teams more deeper with his passing and Bojan could do the same further forward. I think the false 9 has its problems but I think we should stick with it for now. I'm not at all convinced a DM is the priority in the window everyone seems to think it is though. 6 weeks ago I would of said it was but with the emergence of Cameron, Afellay's versatility and even Adam to some extent to go with Whelan, I think we are OK. I'd be looking at a Centre Forward and a back up winger. I'd also let Crouch and Odemwingie go.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 27, 2015 10:44:04 GMT
I think we have to pick and choose with the games we use it. I'd go way more direct vs Everton for instance. Lots of crosses, almost two up front but with Walters playing where he did for TP and bombard their weak links (goalkeeper and centre backs). I'd love to see someone signed to play alongside Whelan but if Cameron can keep that level of passing game up and if Afellay can cope deeper then we won't need one. We need another fast winger desperately though. Yeah a winger is our one and possibly only priority this window imo. If it's one signing it has to be a winger now. Cameron and Afellay deserve the chance to make that role their own and save us a few quid. It could be a good time to sign a young midfielder or to maybe even give on the midfielder in the U-21's some time if we think they're possibilities for the future. Because barring Van Ginkel who isn't ours, the central midfielders will all be turning 30 soon.
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Post by metalhead on Dec 27, 2015 10:51:32 GMT
I don't think his shooting has been too bad. The volley today was instinctive but he's had one cleared off the line and another inches wide. He's a seriously good player. I just wish he was 27, not 29. Oh he is, most definatly. It's just when he has the chance to shoot, he winds himself up like he wants to twat it. Yet fails miserably. hopefully it'll come. The way he's playing right now, I don't care if he doesn't score all season, he makes things happen in the middle.
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Post by Kjones9 on Dec 27, 2015 10:53:50 GMT
Oh he is, most definatly. It's just when he has the chance to shoot, he winds himself up like he wants to twat it. Yet fails miserably. hopefully it'll come. The way he's playing right now, I don't care if he doesn't score all season, he makes things happen in the middle. Yeah hopefully. Just looks like he's trying too hard at shooting.
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Post by stokieinabuja on Dec 27, 2015 10:54:40 GMT
One thing that I do like about Ibi, is that when he gets the ball he's always looking to turn and run forward with it. Very rarely do you see him going back towards our goal, he's 100% an attack minded, quality footballer.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 27, 2015 11:59:21 GMT
I'd still love to see him deeper (ooeer). But he was class today. I just think he'd be better used back there and Bojan better where Afellay plays. It could also allow Whelan to be rested. Good options to have. So who are you suggesting would replace Whelan, Cameron or Afellay? I don't think Cameron has the discipline to play that role and although I'm not sure if Afellay could or couldn't play that role, I tend to suspect that we would lose a lot of what he's currently offering now by playing him there.
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Post by metalhead on Dec 27, 2015 12:04:18 GMT
I'd still love to see him deeper (ooeer). But he was class today. I just think he'd be better used back there and Bojan better where Afellay plays. It could also allow Whelan to be rested. Good options to have. So who are you suggesting would replace Whelan, Cameron or Afellay? I don't think Cameron has the discipline to play that role and although I'm not sure if Afellay could or couldn't play that role, I tend to suspect that we would lose a lot of what he's currently offering now by playing him there. The problem is, there's clearly something wrong with Glenn. He looked off against Palace and he wasn't moving right yesterday. Watch the second goal, the build up to the free kick, he looks very uncomfortable. Whatever is up, he needs it sorting. He's a vital player.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 27, 2015 12:05:22 GMT
I'd still love to see him deeper (ooeer). But he was class today. I just think he'd be better used back there and Bojan better where Afellay plays. It could also allow Whelan to be rested. Good options to have. So who are you suggesting would replace Whelan, Cameron or Afellay? I don't think Cameron has the discipline to play that role and although I'm not sure if Afellay could or couldn't play that role, I tend to suspect that we would lose a lot of what he's currently offering now by playing him there. I think if you're playing Bournemouth at home you could afford to rest Whelan and play Cameron there instead. But only in games like that. I don't think we would, I think he'd flourish in it. There was lots of talk around me when he got the ball of a certain Frenchman who I shall not name. I think he could do that. I think he carries the balls excellently which was part of what he did and just keeps it ticking over. Where he's playing and I do think it's further forward, I don't think that's enough, he needs more goals and killer balls.
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Post by datguy on Dec 27, 2015 12:10:30 GMT
Looks like he enjoyed the game
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 27, 2015 12:13:40 GMT
So who are you suggesting would replace Whelan, Cameron or Afellay? I don't think Cameron has the discipline to play that role and although I'm not sure if Afellay could or couldn't play that role, I tend to suspect that we would lose a lot of what he's currently offering now by playing him there. I think if you're playing Bournemouth at home you could afford to rest Whelan and play Cameron there instead. But only in games like that. I don't think we would, I think he'd flourish in it. There was lots of talk around me when he got the ball of a certain Frenchman who I shall not name. I think he could do that. I think he carries the balls excellently which was part of what he did and just keeps it ticking over. Where he's playing and I do think it's further forward, I don't think that's enough, he needs more goals and killer balls. Well Cameron doesn't have the required discipline to play there against the MAJORITY of the opposition that we'll come up against then, especially away from home. And that's kinda of my point ... he does carry the ball excellently but would that element of his game (amongst others) be limited if he was being asked to sit and break up play on the toes of the centre backs? I still think we need a pacey winger AND a bona fide DM as our next two signings.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 27, 2015 12:19:33 GMT
I think if you're playing Bournemouth at home you could afford to rest Whelan and play Cameron there instead. But only in games like that. I don't think we would, I think he'd flourish in it. There was lots of talk around me when he got the ball of a certain Frenchman who I shall not name. I think he could do that. I think he carries the balls excellently which was part of what he did and just keeps it ticking over. Where he's playing and I do think it's further forward, I don't think that's enough, he needs more goals and killer balls. Well Cameron doesn't have the required discipline to play there against the MAJORITY of the opposition we'll come up against then, especially away from home. And that's kinda of my point ... he does carry the ball excellently but would that element of his game (amongst others) be limited if he was being asked to sit and break up play on the toes of the centre backs? I still think we need a pacey winger AND a bona fide DM as our next two signings. I'd go with that but it's still better than the options we have. And I think it would work nicely for games like that. His passing from deep was a joy yesterday, was that a one off? If not, he becomes a massive option. I think his best attribute is his ability to break up play tbh, he's a right canny knack of stealing the ball. That's why I've always wanted him in midfield. He can run around frantically and just tackle, it's what I've always seen in him. I think it's worth seeing how these 2 do in the roles they're in now and alongside Whelan (I hope Afellay gets a chance deeper as I think he'll flourish more). Essentially, it's a six month trial to see if they can put it in consistently. We still need a younger DM due to everyone's age but we can afford to wait for summer.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 27, 2015 12:22:15 GMT
Well Cameron doesn't have the required discipline to play there against the MAJORITY of the opposition we'll come up against then, especially away from home. And that's kinda of my point ... he does carry the ball excellently but would that element of his game (amongst others) be limited if he was being asked to sit and break up play on the toes of the centre backs? I still think we need a pacey winger AND a bona fide DM as our next two signings. I'd go with that but it's still better than the options we have. And I think it would work nicely for games like that. His passing from deep was a joy yesterday, was that a one off? If not, he becomes a massive option. I think his best attribute is his ability to break up play tbh, he's a right canny knack of stealing the ball. That's why I've always wanted him in midfield. He can run around frantically and just tackle, it's what I've always seen in him. I think it's worth seeing how these 2 do in the roles they're in now and alongside Whelan (I hope Afellay gets a chance deeper as I think he'll flourish more). Essentially, it's a six month trial to see if they can put it in consistently. We still need a younger DM due to everyone's age but we can afford to wait for summer. Ah right, so you're not suggesting ever playing Afellay in the Whelan role, just Cameron?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 27, 2015 12:27:42 GMT
I'd go with that but it's still better than the options we have. And I think it would work nicely for games like that. His passing from deep was a joy yesterday, was that a one off? If not, he becomes a massive option. I think his best attribute is his ability to break up play tbh, he's a right canny knack of stealing the ball. That's why I've always wanted him in midfield. He can run around frantically and just tackle, it's what I've always seen in him. I think it's worth seeing how these 2 do in the roles they're in now and alongside Whelan (I hope Afellay gets a chance deeper as I think he'll flourish more). Essentially, it's a six month trial to see if they can put it in consistently. We still need a younger DM due to everyone's age but we can afford to wait for summer. Ah right, so you're not suggesting ever playing Afellay in the Whelan role, just Cameron? Oh God no! I'd want Afellay next to him or Whelan dictating play. So where Cameron was yesterday. With Bojan where Afellay was. I never thought that would be possible but I think with how Afellay has grown it really is. Adam pretty much had a free role at the end of last season and it worked a treat, I think Bojan could do that and it'll bring the best out of all of them.
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Post by fca47 on Dec 27, 2015 12:52:38 GMT
I'm always amazed at the scores he is given in the newspapers, think he got a 6 in the Mail, wtf, and I think it has been the same every match, an 8 at least.
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