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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 16:55:57 GMT
Struggling to score again and we've got two centre forwards - last season's top scorer and a new arrival - kicking their heels on the bench. Why?
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Post by heisenberg88 on Dec 19, 2015 16:59:01 GMT
Struggling to score again and we've got two centre forwards - last season's top scorer and a new arrival - kicking their heels on the bench. Why? Hughes musnt trust them. Joselu wont score 5 goals for us |
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Post by MilanStokie on Dec 19, 2015 17:00:02 GMT
Struggling to score again and we've got two centre forwards - last season's top scorer and a new arrival - kicking their heels on the bench. Why? Well we weren't banging them in when we used one so when we changed to this setup, we looked a 100 times more threatening and scored 2 vs Man City. The problem with this setup is it doesn't break down defensive teams very well but works better vs the teams who come to take us on. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 17:00:55 GMT
Struggling to score again and we've got two centre forwards - last season's top scorer and a new arrival - kicking their heels on the bench. Why? Well we weren't banging them in when we used one so when we changed to this setup, we looked a 100 times more threatening and scored 2 vs Man City. The problem with this setup is it doesn't break down defensive teams very well but works better vs the teams who come to take us on. I think that's the issue. It worked once and everyone got carried away. We can beat big sides, False 9 or not, but we struggle against mid table rivals. Let's actually address that problem. |
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Dec 19, 2015 17:06:22 GMT
Struggling to score again and we've got two centre forwards - last season's top scorer and a new arrival - kicking their heels on the bench. Why? Because they are not likely to look like scoring? Diouf = Gets into great positions, but can't finish unless he has 5 chances. Joselu = Can't get into great positions in the first place. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 17:07:55 GMT
Only 4 players have scored a league goal this season . That's an awful statistic
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 17:08:33 GMT
Have to agree. Plenty of efforts on goal but fuck all to show for it again. Four or five strikers on the books looks OK but if they don't play regular how much faith does Hughes have in them. Better football than under Pulis but the same old problem. Something needs to be done next month.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Dec 19, 2015 17:10:26 GMT
Struggling to score again and we've got two centre forwards - last season's top scorer and a new arrival - kicking their heels on the bench. Why? Hughes musnt trust them. Joselu wont score 5 goals for us Maybe so? So, why did he buy him?  |
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on Dec 19, 2015 17:10:46 GMT
If you don't leave a striker on regularly they wont score. Of course, you might leave them on regularly and they wont score anyway. That's the risk. But the alternative seems to be; play well, don't win.
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Post by Bombus on Dec 19, 2015 17:11:42 GMT
This is exactly how we should play against Manchester United though.
But today? No.
Against West Ham? No.
Stupid fucking shit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 17:12:58 GMT
This is exactly how we should play against Manchester United though. But today? No. Against West Ham? No. Stupid fucking shit. EXACTLY. |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Dec 19, 2015 17:14:44 GMT
I said this to a number of people, we spend £5m on Joselu and sheds loads on wages for Ireland, Sidwell, Crouch and others. Wouldn't it make sense to buy one top goalscorer e.g. Charlie Austin than keep fannying around penny pinching on transfer fees when we can make savings to pay for one striker?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 19, 2015 17:18:10 GMT
What I didn't get was Walters coming on today ahead of Diouf made no sense. I know Mame misses his fair share of chances but he gets in position to score Walters just doesn't look effective.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 17:20:31 GMT
I said this to a number of people, we spend £5m on Joselu and sheds loads on wages for Ireland, Sidwell, Crouch and others. Wouldn't it make sense to buy one top goalscorer e.g. Charlie Austin than keep fannying around penny pinching on transfer fees when we can make savings to pay for one striker? What if said example, with known knee injuries, becomes injured? We need decent competition. Not that it matters if you don't play any of them, of course. |
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Post by kustokie on Dec 19, 2015 17:21:38 GMT
What I didn't get was Walters coming on today ahead of Diouf made no sense. I know Mame misses his fair share of chances but he gets in position to score Walters just doesn't look effective. I just posted that on the game thread. Makes no sense to me. Diouf seems to be in Sparky's shit house which seems to be a very difficult place to get out of. |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Dec 19, 2015 17:23:19 GMT
Who was the last truly prolific goal scorer - Sheron ?????
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Post by chrisparker on Dec 19, 2015 17:25:04 GMT
Our strikers can't score. Bojan has been our most prolific "striker".
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Post by redwhite on Dec 19, 2015 17:25:47 GMT
Cannot for the life of me understand why Diouf has fallen so far down the pecking order. He should be our main man.
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Post by malteser68 on Dec 19, 2015 17:25:55 GMT
Struggling to score again and we've got two centre forwards - last season's top scorer and a new arrival - kicking their heels on the bench. Why? Because they are not likely to look like scoring? Diouf = Gets into great positions, but can't finish unless he has 5 chances. Joselu = Can't get into great positions in the first place. So someone DOES share my same opinion on diouf |
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Post by malteser68 on Dec 19, 2015 17:27:00 GMT
What I didn't get was Walters coming on today ahead of Diouf made no sense. I know Mame misses his fair share of chances but he gets in position to score Walters just doesn't look effective. Walters has been a shade less than absolutely anonymous since having his contract extension |
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Post by malteser68 on Dec 19, 2015 17:28:18 GMT
I said this to a number of people, we spend £5m on Joselu and sheds loads on wages for Ireland, Sidwell, Crouch and others. Wouldn't it make sense to buy one top goalscorer e.g. Charlie Austin than keep fannying around penny pinching on transfer fees when we can make savings to pay for one striker? Bravo Great post Fully in agreement |
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Post by stokemanusa on Dec 19, 2015 17:31:40 GMT
Joselu is a superb finisher but needs to have service. Him and Diouf being under used is criminal.
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Post by Kjones9 on Dec 19, 2015 17:32:15 GMT
I said this to a number of people, we spend £5m on Joselu and sheds loads on wages for Ireland, Sidwell, Crouch and others. Wouldn't it make sense to buy one top goalscorer e.g. Charlie Austin than keep fannying around penny pinching on transfer fees when we can make savings to pay for one striker? Shock seeing you post after a loss. So what you're saying is that the whole football world has got it wrong and it's pointless paying wages for squad players, because that's all they are, players for the squad. Revolutionary. |
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Post by Bombus on Dec 19, 2015 17:33:53 GMT
This is exactly how we should play against Manchester United though. But today? No. Against West Ham? No. Stupid fucking shit. EXACTLY. The thing is, mate - I feel we've almost got to change things around til next Saturday now. Frustration to the fucking maximum. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 17:35:38 GMT
The thing is, mate - I feel we've almost got to change things around til next Saturday now. Frustration to the fucking maximum. Sods law we will and lose  |
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Dec 19, 2015 17:36:43 GMT
Because they are not likely to look like scoring? Diouf = Gets into great positions, but can't finish unless he has 5 chances. Joselu = Can't get into great positions in the first place. So someone DOES share my same opinion on diouf I wonder if Diouf's misses are beginning to affect the team? I'm pretty sure they would have been very frustrated at West Ham last week, putting that one on a plate in the 85th minute and a familiar miss happens. They may be starting to think, just what do they need to do to get a goal out of him? Mind you Bolasie missed a sitter too. But his main remit is to create chances and he does that really well. Diouf's remit is to score; He struggles with this. |
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Post by tuum on Dec 19, 2015 17:36:52 GMT
Struggling to score again and we've got two centre forwards - last season's top scorer and a new arrival - kicking their heels on the bench. Why? Well we weren't banging them in when we used one so when we changed to this setup, we looked a 100 times more threatening and scored 2 vs Man City. The problem with this setup is it doesn't break down defensive teams very well but works better vs the teams who come to take us on. We created enough today to have won. We had enough space on the edge of the box and got behind them a few times. I don't think the system is the real problem...shot execution is. |
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Post by mrteddysalad on Dec 19, 2015 17:37:30 GMT
Joselu is wank
Crouch is done
Walters is crap up front
Diouf is the only option and he's a mediocre option at best.
January can't come soon enough.
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Post by potterspele on Dec 19, 2015 17:38:20 GMT
Whichever system you want to use the reason we end up dropping so many points is just rank bad finishing.
We had a load of chances today and have done all season but no one is putting them away.
I agree that diouf would score more but I doubt we would be as creative with him cos it breaks down if he has to hold it up.
Horses for courses but the big issue for me is scoring chances. We were the better team today but missed a host of good opportunities. Start putting them away and no one will be questioning either false nine or striker.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Dec 19, 2015 17:38:40 GMT
I said this to a number of people, we spend £5m on Joselu and sheds loads on wages for Ireland, Sidwell, Crouch and others. Wouldn't it make sense to buy one top goalscorer e.g. Charlie Austin than keep fannying around penny pinching on transfer fees when we can make savings to pay for one striker? Shock seeing you post after a loss. So what you're saying is that the whole football world has got it wrong and it's pointless paying wages for squad players, because that's all they are, players for the squad. Revolutionary. Why is it shock to post after we've lost yet again at home? I apologise I did not know it was house rules only to post after a win or a draw.  |
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