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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 17:07:05 GMT
wat
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Nov 5, 2015 17:07:45 GMT
No, not while Woy is in charge!
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Post by wearepremierleague on Nov 5, 2015 17:07:53 GMT
Arnie, Bojan, Shaqiri, Zonz (I know he's gone) would walk into the squad. Shawcross should
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Post by Clem Fandango on Nov 5, 2015 17:11:12 GMT
Arnie, Bojan, Shaqiri, Zonz (I know he's gone) would walk into the squad. Shawcross should Not if Townsend is fit they won't
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Nov 5, 2015 17:10:53 GMT
Bojan would most definitely! He would be revered as the English Messi and hyped up to the eyeballs.
Arnie would find it more difficult. Looking at how England's tactics are viewed under Roy, you seem to like a pacy winger, sometimes in preference to someone more skillful but slower. That is where Arnie would fit in, he woudl be lauded by the media as a very skillful player who "SHOULD" be playing but he wouldn't fit in Roy's plans.
I would even include Johnson too who, based on performances, has exceeded my expectations and that perhaps he may have a slight chance, but still unlikely.
The others based on performances? Whelan - Doesnt suit Roy's style, Walters is not good enough, Shaqiri - Not yet attained the heights yet so some potential. Wollschied has improved but not international quality yet, Cameron is the same, Van Ginkle - No, Adam, No, Diouf, Not good enough finishing. All the others do not stand out enough either.
Please note,apart from johnson i am not including english players.
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Post by ryanbox360 on Nov 5, 2015 17:12:39 GMT
The England team should be picked on merit, not old reputation.
Got to say, on the defensive front, Chris Smalling has been vastly improved this season and he deserves his spot. Can't really apply that to any of the other centre halves though.
Ryan can't be picked because he hasn't played enough this year, maybe with a good remainder of the season he could be there.
I'm happy to see Vardy in there, he definitely gets in on form. Undoubtedly it'll be Rooney and/or Kane up front starting though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 17:16:17 GMT
The Bojan we saw before his injury would have had a call up, but MotD haven't focussed enough on Arnie and we've not yet played at Southampton, so he wouldn't be on Roy's radar.
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Post by redstriper on Nov 5, 2015 17:19:07 GMT
neither of them would make it in my view. Not shown enough this season. Hopefully they will do over the coming months.
people on here are biased, and that's understandable. But throwing in every stoke player lessens the credibility of our outrage at Shawx omission over the years. He should be englands lynchpin defender by now and the fact that he isn't is a disgrace.
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Post by muglump on Nov 5, 2015 17:20:58 GMT
possibly they should, but they wouldn't because of who they play for. We're one dimensional set piece experts remember who favour the long ball
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Nov 5, 2015 17:21:07 GMT
I think Stoke 11 would beat that England 11 about 4 times out of 10
We have got better whilst the national team has truly become 2nd rate.
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Post by heworksardtho on Nov 5, 2015 17:28:13 GMT
If me mum had a pair of balls she would be me dad , if messi was born in Stoke would he b playing for us , if the moon was made of cheese would it be infested with mice etc etc etc
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 5, 2015 17:27:53 GMT
No, Woy wouldn't know a good footballer if one moved in with him.
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Post by wokinghampotter on Nov 5, 2015 17:32:09 GMT
No, Woy wouldn't know a good footballer if one moved in with him. Stafford, I find I am agreeing with you! I was going say if anybody played for Stoke, Woy would say they won't play for England!
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 5, 2015 17:41:00 GMT
Ronaldo would struggle to get in the England side if he was at Stoke while this clown is in charge.
If Arnie was at Spurs he would be in every squad. Mind you if Ryan Shotton was at Spurs he'd be in the current England squad.
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Post by cousindupree on Nov 5, 2015 17:47:11 GMT
Delph has played 4 minutes since September. 4 minutes! Holy Christ!!!
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Post by ohbottom on Nov 5, 2015 17:58:32 GMT
Not until they got a transfer to Manarsepool Unicity
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Post by alansuddick on Nov 5, 2015 18:39:29 GMT
Is this a joke.one good game every 4 or 5.about 2-3 goals a season.more chance of walters playing for eire
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Post by leicspotter on Nov 5, 2015 19:10:09 GMT
I'm no great fan of Hodgson but, Ryan aside, who else could he / should he select? Much of the parlous state of the England national side is down to the "win it now" greed league mentality that sees so many foreign imports taking all the key places in pretty much EVERY Premier League side. How many Stoke players (regular starters) are English!? Rough count is 3 of whom 1 is in, 1 should be and the other used to be. How many English academy players get to start for their clubs? The way things are going the squad will soon need to be augmented from teams in the Championship! A quota system may be the only solution f the national side is ever going to prosper.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 5, 2015 19:31:52 GMT
Kyle Walker, Phil Jones, Eric dier, Fabian delph, Adam lallana.
Its fucking farcical :-)
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Post by Frogger Theft Auto on Nov 5, 2015 19:45:32 GMT
Arnie has been the better of the 3 this season and I think he'd be the furthest away from the England squad. If Shaqiri and Arnie had swapped, and Arnie was our new £12M ex-Bayern & Inter World Cup hat-trick scorer, he'd probably make this England squad. Same with Bojan, if Arnie was our ex-Barca starlet, everybody would be talking about his performances so far this season and Roy would probably know that he exists. Nobody outside of Stoke seems to have noticed that Arnie has been the best player out of those 3 and our biggest threat; even teams that we're playing against are 'talking about'/'setting up with the intention of' stopping Shaqiri and Bojan. So I don't think Arnie (the most in-form of those 3) would stand a chance.
Big player/big team reputations seem to be more important to Roy than anything. Bojan and Shaqiri wouldn't have those if they were English anyway, so I don't think any of them would stand a chance.
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Post by damagedswan on Nov 5, 2015 19:56:33 GMT
Kyle Walker, Phil Jones, Eric dier, Fabian delph, Adam lallana. Its fucking farcical :-) dier has been really good for spurs this season to be fair, and england desperately need a holding midfielder.
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Post by superheroantonius on Nov 5, 2015 20:01:21 GMT
It's a given then unless you are performing well week in week out then you shouldn't be playing for England.
So Lallana, Delph and Phil Jones shouldn't be playing
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Post by superheroantonius on Nov 5, 2015 20:05:05 GMT
they can blow a bit hot and cold but it's beyond me to imagine they could pull being less use than Lallana and Delph out of the bag
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Post by thepirehillpoet on Nov 5, 2015 20:09:19 GMT
Don't you think he has nice skin though????
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Nov 5, 2015 20:45:41 GMT
Nope.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 20:47:25 GMT
Yes they would.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 5, 2015 20:50:15 GMT
No.
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Post by samba :) on Nov 5, 2015 22:30:16 GMT
Arnie, Bojan, Shaqiri, Zonz (I know he's gone) would walk into the squad. Shawcross should Not if Townsend is fit they won't so they would most weeks
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Post by mightyone on Nov 5, 2015 23:00:18 GMT
Ok I haven't lost the plot but if Arnie or Bojan were eligible to play for England would they get in our current squad? In fact would any of our current players get in the squad? (If Eligible and the exception of Butland) Mate, you ain't lost the plot but where has this thought come from?? I for one only think of players playing for there country. I must admit we are blessed with a lot of good international players and I do keep an eye on there fortunes while playing for there countries especially ROI but there's more. Going back to your thoughts/thread Bojan for Spain & Arnie for Austria but as we stand they & we are STOKE UTMPs . As always just my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 23:09:49 GMT
Shitbin please
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