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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 13:08:50 GMT
Why won't some people on this board except we have been shit the last two league games and if it was not for our keeper we most proberly be closer to the bottom three,this season reminds me of the season Ritchie Barker decided to change all the good work from the season before,and those of us who were around then no what followed. You mean when we went from being the most attractive footballing side in the league to being an abomination in the blink of an eye? What I've seen this year is a team with more potential, attack-wise at least, than we had last year, but who are starting pretty much as we've done the previous two years. Something definitely needs changing, but we're nowhere near to the disaster that Barker turned us into - probably the most annoying piece of stupidity I've seen in all my years supporting Stoke.
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Post by toppercorner on Nov 1, 2015 13:10:18 GMT
I respect your opinion, I'm happy with a point at St James, its a tough place to go, it's just the manner in which we went about it mate, lets be honest Jack kept us in the game and it's worrying to think we're we'd be without him. well lets look at the positives then you went to se stoke, spent hard earned money on a match, where one particular stoke player showed why he's going to be one of the best goalkeepers in the world you can then look fondly back at his performances form today and say that 'you were there when...' etc.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 13:16:36 GMT
Wasn't the best away day I've been to, but it's a solid point.
We can't expect last minute winners and equalisers every game. We will still get the odd 0-0.
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Post by StokieNath on Nov 1, 2015 15:05:12 GMT
well lets look at the positives then you went to se stoke, spent hard earned money on a match, where one particular stoke player showed why he's going to be one of the best goalkeepers in the world you can then look fondly back at his performances form today and say that 'you were there when...' etc. I only saw one lad on that pitch that gave his all. Simply not good enough.
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 1, 2015 15:08:01 GMT
I might have guessed having a reasonable discussion with you wasn't really on the cards. Well that's got to be the end of the 'only brought up by the wankstains' bumph. No?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 1, 2015 15:14:09 GMT
I might have guessed having a reasonable discussion with you wasn't really on the cards. Well that's got to be the end of the 'only brought up by the wankstains' bumph. No? You actually can't read can you. You see certain words for sure but you don't actually read them as sentences with context and that do you?!
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Post by Davef on Nov 1, 2015 15:15:58 GMT
well lets look at the positives then you went to se stoke, spent hard earned money on a match, where one particular stoke player showed why he's going to be one of the best goalkeepers in the world you can then look fondly back at his performances form today and say that 'you were there when...' etc. I only saw one lad on that pitch that gave his all. Simply not good enough. You should get your eyes tested then. Stupid post.
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 1, 2015 15:29:30 GMT
Well that's got to be the end of the 'only brought up by the wankstains' bumph. No? You actually can't read can you. You see certain words for sure but you don't actually read them as sentences with context and that do you?! 1 reply and were already on the 'you can't read' posts. Gotta be a record. Step 2: Calling me an hypocrite along with some nasty names
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 1, 2015 15:40:53 GMT
You actually can't read can you. You see certain words for sure but you don't actually read them as sentences with context and that do you?! 1 reply and were already on the 'you can't read' posts. Gotta be a record. Step 2: Calling me an hypocrite along with some nasty names Do you ever actually discuss any issues, like how stoke play or that? Or are you so hung up on your conspiracy theories and agenda hunting that you cant. I can't ever recall you stating a view on anything substantial ever.
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 1, 2015 16:07:28 GMT
1 reply and were already on the 'you can't read' posts. Gotta be a record. Step 2: Calling me an hypocrite along with some nasty names Do you ever actually discuss any issues, like how stoke play or that? Or are you so hung up on your conspiracy theories and agenda hunting that you cant. I can't ever recall you stating a view on anything substantial ever. Well done. God loves ya momo.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 1, 2015 16:20:37 GMT
Do you ever actually discuss any issues, like how stoke play or that? Or are you so hung up on your conspiracy theories and agenda hunting that you cant. I can't ever recall you stating a view on anything substantial ever. Well done. God loves ya momo. Another post and no actual opinions other than your normal witchfinder general schtick. Odd boy.
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Post by Gods on Nov 1, 2015 17:23:08 GMT
We've become boring. I know this will probably descend into old battlegrounds but I don't mean in a complete lack of ambition way that was prevalent under the worst days of Pulis and I also think boring was good today. We were patched up fitness wise, lacking real squad depth and it was a great point but it lacks any real verve. You look at that advanced middle three of Arnie, Bojan and Shaqiri and it gives you a boner but it's pretty dull stuff, lacking in any penalty area action and every keeper we've played against this year could have had a fag on and dropped his hat on those miniscule shots on target. No keeper has had to play anywhere near like Jack has on countless occasions for us so far this season. I cant believe for a minute (despite his public statements) that Hughes is particularly happy with how we're playing. I admit to only watching it in the pub but there was some pretty hard core Stokies in there playing cards and switching to horse racing from a pretty early stage. It's just really odd. Notionally we have more forward fire power at the club than, I would imagine. at any time in our long history and yet a quick check of the stats shows us to have not only the lowest goals per game average in the Premier League but in the entirety of the frigging Football League And you don't need to look too much further to see its not a case of us peppering the opposition goal without getting the breaks. Quite the opposite in fact, our conversion rate of goals to attempts on goal is actually good. The problem seems to be that despite all this (apparent) attacking infantry we have almost completely ceased to exist as an offensive force. The good news is our record this season in converting a parsimonious number of goals in to league points has been remarkable. I'm not convinced that's sustainable though, we to somehow find a way to pose a threat up front, I don't know what the answer is but I guess that's why we have a coaching team on 6 and 7 figure incomes to work it out
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 1, 2015 17:23:37 GMT
Well done. God loves ya momo. Another post and no actual opinions other than your normal witchfinder general schtick. Odd boy. Have you had a warning?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 17:28:43 GMT
We've become boring. I know this will probably descend into old battlegrounds but I don't mean in a complete lack of ambition way that was prevalent under the worst days of Pulis and I also think boring was good today. We were patched up fitness wise, lacking real squad depth and it was a great point but it lacks any real verve. You look at that advanced middle three of Arnie, Bojan and Shaqiri and it gives you a boner but it's pretty dull stuff, lacking in any penalty area action and every keeper we've played against this year could have had a fag on and dropped his hat on those miniscule shots on target. No keeper has had to play anywhere near like Jack has on countless occasions for us so far this season. I cant believe for a minute (despite his public statements) that Hughes is particularly happy with how we're playing. I admit to only watching it in the pub but there was some pretty hard core Stokies in there playing cards and switching to horse racing from a pretty early stage. It's just really odd. Notionally we have more forward fire power at the club than, I would imagine. at any time in our long history and yet a quick check at the stats shows us to have not only the lowest goals per game average in the Premier but in the entirety of the frigging football league And you don't need to look too much further to see its not a case of us peppering the opposition goal without getting the breaks. Quite the opposite in fact, our conversion rate of goals to attempts on global is actually good. The problem seems to be that despite all this (apparent) attacking infantry we have almost completely ceased to exist as an offensive force. The good news is our record in converting a parsimonious number of goals in to league points has been remarkable. I not convince that is sustainable though, we to somehow find a way to pose a threat up front, but I don't know what the answer is What's odd about it? Shaqiri - Had no pre season and is adapting to a new league and country. Bojan - returning from a serious injury. Diouf - Suffered a bad injury and ridiculous personal tragedy. Arnautovic - playing well. Walters - Had a niggly injury since the end of last season and is in the middle of a contract wrangle. Crouch - Had a groin op that went wrong in the summer. Joselu - ditto Shaqiri but with a Pre Season. On top of that we've lost a midfield play maker and asked our manager to replace him with thin air. Is it really that odd?
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Post by Gods on Nov 1, 2015 17:34:48 GMT
It's just really odd. Notionally we have more forward fire power at the club than, I would imagine. at any time in our long history and yet a quick check at the stats shows us to have not only the lowest goals per game average in the Premier but in the entirety of the frigging football league And you don't need to look too much further to see its not a case of us peppering the opposition goal without getting the breaks. Quite the opposite in fact, our conversion rate of goals to attempts on global is actually good. The problem seems to be that despite all this (apparent) attacking infantry we have almost completely ceased to exist as an offensive force. The good news is our record in converting a parsimonious number of goals in to league points has been remarkable. I not convince that is sustainable though, we to somehow find a way to pose a threat up front, but I don't know what the answer is What's odd about it? Shaqiri - Had no pre season and is adapting to a new league and country. Bojan - returning from a serious injury. Diouf - Suffered a bad injury and ridiculous personal tragedy. Arnautovic - playing well. Walters - Had a niggly injury since the end of last season and is in the middle of a contract wrangle. Crouch - Had a groin op that went wrong in the summer. Joselu - ditto Shaqiri but with a Pre Season. On top of that we've lost a midfield play maker and asked our manager to replace him with thin air. Is it really that odd? I am honestly not sure what your conclusion is to that lot then? That we have had a big slice of bad luck and we just need to be more patient of that the whole thing has been a massive cluster fuck? I really don't know what you are implying with your list or what you suggest we do next?
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Post by kustokie on Nov 1, 2015 17:42:29 GMT
It's just really odd. Notionally we have more forward fire power at the club than, I would imagine. at any time in our long history and yet a quick check at the stats shows us to have not only the lowest goals per game average in the Premier but in the entirety of the frigging football league And you don't need to look too much further to see its not a case of us peppering the opposition goal without getting the breaks. Quite the opposite in fact, our conversion rate of goals to attempts on global is actually good. The problem seems to be that despite all this (apparent) attacking infantry we have almost completely ceased to exist as an offensive force. The good news is our record in converting a parsimonious number of goals in to league points has been remarkable. I not convince that is sustainable though, we to somehow find a way to pose a threat up front, but I don't know what the answer is What's odd about it? Shaqiri - Had no pre season and is adapting to a new league and country. Bojan - returning from a serious injury. Diouf - Suffered a bad injury and ridiculous personal tragedy. Arnautovic - playing well. Walters - Had a niggly injury since the end of last season and is in the middle of a contract wrangle. Crouch - Had a groin op that went wrong in the summer. Joselu - ditto Shaqiri but with a Pre Season. On top of that we've lost a midfield play maker and asked our manager to replace him with thin air. Is it really that odd? None of that explains why we can't get a decent cross in now and again.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 1, 2015 17:47:52 GMT
Another post and no actual opinions other than your normal witchfinder general schtick. Odd boy. Have you had a warning? Don't eat yellow snow? Don't return to a firework which hasn't gone off or don't give too much time to messageboard trolls who only care about what people say about Stoke, rather than actually having any opinion about Stoke? No warning. It's the third one.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 17:49:35 GMT
What's odd about it? Shaqiri - Had no pre season and is adapting to a new league and country. Bojan - returning from a serious injury. Diouf - Suffered a bad injury and ridiculous personal tragedy. Arnautovic - playing well. Walters - Had a niggly injury since the end of last season and is in the middle of a contract wrangle. Crouch - Had a groin op that went wrong in the summer. Joselu - ditto Shaqiri but with a Pre Season. On top of that we've lost a midfield play maker and asked our manager to replace him with thin air. Is it really that odd? None of that explains why we can't get a decent cross in now and again. That's fine but doesn't it go some way to explaining why we look a tad disjointed going forwards?
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Post by stokeharry on Nov 1, 2015 18:15:45 GMT
If you think that was a shocking day out you've not been following Stoke long. Fucks sake. Some right fucking shite hawks follow our team these days. Try getting soaked to the skin on an open terrace watching us get a right thumping. Today is nowhere close. Been going stoke home and away for 42 years,been wet through , hospitalised,arrested.been through it all and im not a shithawke.we used to make more noise with 200 than we do now.dont suppose you were there today you pirck. Didn't go yesterday but watched via stream and I agree with you mate
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Nov 1, 2015 18:43:53 GMT
The game itself was a bit shit as a spectacle but I would have taken a point prior to kick off.
Newcastle itself is a lovely place to visit and is probably one of my fav away days. Yesterday was no different.
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Post by dexta on Nov 1, 2015 19:18:15 GMT
Some of these fuckers on here should have gone when we were shit...can't remember when we were shit... the reaction of us supporters back then was fuck it on to the next game...but now we have a load of jcl moaning their bollocks off....the internet as a lot to answer for
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Post by stokeharry on Nov 1, 2015 20:19:34 GMT
Some of these fuckers on here should have gone when we were shit...can't remember when we were shit... the reaction of us supporters back then was fuck it on to the next game...but now we have a load of jcl moaning their bollocks off....the internet as a lot to answer for Welcome to the prem mate . Change isn't always for the good
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 1, 2015 20:25:26 GMT
Some of these fuckers on here should have gone when we were shit...can't remember when we were shit... the reaction of us supporters back then was fuck it on to the next game...but now we have a load of jcl moaning their bollocks off....the internet as a lot to answer for I've been out and about (drinking) today and in the real world (you're perhaps right about this board, I don't know) you couldn't be further from the truth. It's the more mature supporters who are the most pissed off. The kids and the '2008ers' are pretty relaxed.
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Nov 1, 2015 20:55:09 GMT
Some of these fuckers on here should have gone when we were shit...can't remember when we were shit... the reaction of us supporters back then was fuck it on to the next game...but now we have a load of jcl moaning their bollocks off....the internet as a lot to answer for I've been out and about (drinking) today and in the real world (you're perhaps right about this board, I don't know) you couldn't be further from the truth. It's the more mature supporters who are the most pissed off. The kids and the '2008ers' are pretty relaxed. What is there to worry about?? We will get better. Theres 2 things that piss me off mind. The first is why do we start so slowly? the second is not replacing the Zonz. Other than that , it's like most seasons, unpredictable.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 1, 2015 20:56:29 GMT
Why won't some people on this board except we have been shit the last two league games and if it was not for our keeper we most proberly be closer to the bottom three,this season reminds me of the season Ritchie Barker decided to change all the good work from the season before,and those of us who were around then no what followed. You mean when we went from being the most attractive footballing side in the league to being an abomination in the blink of an eye? What I've seen this year is a team with more potential, attack-wise at least, than we had last year, but who are starting pretty much as we've done the previous two years. Something definitely needs changing, but we're nowhere near to the disaster that Barker turned us into - probably the most annoying piece of stupidity I've seen in all my years supporting Stoke. If you have a look at this 1972 chaps posting history he (she?) was saying similar stuff last season ::)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 21:32:55 GMT
You mean when we went from being the most attractive footballing side in the league to being an abomination in the blink of an eye? What I've seen this year is a team with more potential, attack-wise at least, than we had last year, but who are starting pretty much as we've done the previous two years. Something definitely needs changing, but we're nowhere near to the disaster that Barker turned us into - probably the most annoying piece of stupidity I've seen in all my years supporting Stoke. If you have a look at this 1972 chaps posting history he (she?) was saying similar stuff last season Seems like the done thing at the moment. Keep predicting doom and gloom over and over until one day they're right and they can then claim some sort of Nostradamus-like powers. To be honest, I only responded because it gave me the opportunity to stick the boot into Richie Barker for needlessly dismantling the best Stoke team I've seen in my lifetime.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Nov 1, 2015 21:52:29 GMT
Some of these fuckers on here should have gone when we were shit...can't remember when we were shit... the reaction of us supporters back then was fuck it on to the next game...but now we have a load of jcl moaning their bollocks off....the internet as a lot to answer for I've been out and about (drinking) today and in the real world (you're perhaps right about this board, I don't know) you couldn't be further from the truth. It's the more mature supporters who are the most pissed off. The kids and the '2008ers' are pretty relaxed. That's something I've found as well Momo. Being a guy in his young 20's, our Prem years are the clearest and most memorable times for me even though I was dragged to along to our shit days by my Grandad. Pretty much everyone I've met in my age range is of the same sort of opinion; enjoying it for what it is and making the most of a day out. You don't hear a great deal of complaining from the younger fans in my opinion, but they're an easy target I suppose.
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Post by sheffieldstokie82 on Nov 1, 2015 22:59:12 GMT
If you think that was a shocking day out you've not been following Stoke long. Fucks sake. Some right fucking shite hawks follow our team these days. Try getting soaked to the skin on an open terrace watching us get a right thumping. Today is nowhere close. I read this and my mind was immediately cast back to Gillingham away around 2000, we lost 4-0 if memory serves me correctly. Sat in traffic for hours on the way home too....now that was a shit away day.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 1, 2015 23:14:36 GMT
If you think that was a shocking day out you've not been following Stoke long. Fucks sake. Some right fucking shite hawks follow our team these days. Try getting soaked to the skin on an open terrace watching us get a right thumping. Today is nowhere close. I read this and my mind was immediately cast back to Gillingham away around 2000, we lost 4-0 if memory serves me correctly. Sat in traffic for hours on the way home too....now that was a shit away day. Think that was the game a mate from the South Coast and me didn't have tickets and had to go in with the home fans. The day wasn't made any easier by various Stokies I know asking me (loudly) why we were stood in a queue with the Gillingham fans :D
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Post by samba :) on Nov 1, 2015 23:44:43 GMT
I enjoyed yesterday, it was better than some away performances this season and closer to home than the worst
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