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Post by kustokie on Nov 1, 2015 3:02:29 GMT
Laughing unless you witness the game in full its hard to explain what you see .I see a team not progressing from last year and unless someone takes responsibility to have a go and at least shoot on target then we will not progress.Hughes plays 2 so called wingers but the delivery of both is poor their best skill is to cut inside and shoot something they seem to have forgotten They don't shoot because they can't Everyone's figured us out. Both Shaq and Arnie are very one footed. So when they are on the reverse side they have to cut inside the FBs where they run straight into the DM player who knows exactly what's going to happen. Arnie must have tried to run through a brick wall a dozen times. Neither of them seem able to go the other way. When they play the other wing the opposite happens. Defenders know they aren't going to cut inside so they just force them wide and double team them. Waaaay too predictable. It's plain to see...the question is what's the solution? Fortunately that's not my job!
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Post by kustokie on Nov 1, 2015 3:03:57 GMT
I had a good day, if not one of the best. Lots of creative play by Stoke in the first half without the necessary goal, JW missed a sitter when he was clean through. Second half was all about one of the best displays of goal keeping I have witnessed, and I spent many years watching Banks. So much today was reminiscent of the 67-68 season; too much "fannying about" with the ball, with Eastham, Vernon, Dobing, and Burrows passing the ball around the penalty area, and no focal striker/centre forward, and a goal-keeper keeping us in the match. Herd wasn't the answer, Ritchie was, and we became a great team with the addition of Greenhoff. Don't forget Conroy. He had blistering pace and knew where the goal was.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 1, 2015 3:55:41 GMT
If you think that was a shocking day out you've not been following Stoke long. Fucks sake. Some right fucking shite hawks follow our team these days. Try getting soaked to the skin on an open terrace watching us get a right thumping. Today is nowhere close. Been going stoke home and away for 42 years,been wet through , hospitalised,arrested.been through it all and im not a shithawke.we used to make more noise with 200 than we do now.dont suppose you were there today you pirck. Good for you fellow long time Stokie; I've 41 years under my belt. Having seen all you've seen, it's amazing you can be so pissed off. Like I said, it isn't a patch on the miseries we've suffered over the years. BTW I wasn't there - much as I'd like to have been. Doesn't alter the point though. Far too much bleating these days generally, this thread being a fine example.
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Post by harryburrows on Nov 1, 2015 4:55:46 GMT
Our form in the early part of the last two seasons was patchy to say the least , the fact we finished in a very respectable position was only due too strong finishes in the final 3 months of the season
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Post by gibby1409 on Nov 1, 2015 8:50:29 GMT
Sat in with the barcodes. They were grudgingly appreciative of us, saying things like " I fu"""""g hate Shawcross, wish he played for us" They were getting really twitchy when we broke, which did a few time second half, and got into good positions but didn't make it count. Not a brilliant performance, but a solid point away from home is not easy in the prem, so can't complain too much Imo.
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Post by stokiesteve on Nov 1, 2015 8:52:23 GMT
I've followed Stoke for 32 years and have seen all the crap as well.
But surely the OP is making a point of comparison to how we can play and did play last year?
It's not about playing teams like Wigan away etc its surely about comparisons to recent seasons and the knowledge of how we can play.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Nov 1, 2015 8:58:40 GMT
Taking nearly 3,000 to Newcastle and being dissapointed with a point shows how far we've come as a club.
Imagine complaining about that in the 1980s..when we were averaging 8,500 a season at home.
This performance may have been uninspiring but we got a point.
A good team plays badly and gets a result.
A poor team plays well and loses.
Remember that.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 1, 2015 9:06:44 GMT
I had a good day, if not one of the best. Lots of creative play by Stoke in the first half without the necessary goal, JW missed a sitter when he was clean through. Second half was all about one of the best displays of goal keeping I have witnessed, and I spent many years watching Banks. So much today was reminiscent of the 67-68 season; too much "fannying about" with the ball, with Eastham, Vernon, Dobing, and Burrows passing the ball around the penalty area, and no focal striker/centre forward, and a goal-keeper keeping us in the match. Herd wasn't the answer, Ritchie was, and we became a great team with the addition of Greenhoff. Don't forget Conroy. He had blistering pace and knew where the goal was. How could I, thanks?! I mean before Terry got established in the side: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967%E2%80%9368_Stoke_City_F.C._seasonJohn Mahoney was in the side, but he used to charge around an awful lot without achieving much in his early years after joining from Crewe. He settled, and became more creative.
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Post by alansuddick on Nov 1, 2015 9:08:26 GMT
Thanks to jack butland for being the one bright spark of the day.journey up nightmare, stoke performance woeful, atmosphere non existant (that includes our large following) only missed 1 this season norwich away , and must say I havent seen a good 90 mins yet.the odd 45 but not 90. Well it's certainly not for me to disagree with the type of day you had mate, especially the journey up, but it's not the one I experienced. We weren't great today and I sort of agree about the full 90 minutes. Against that though I see another clean sheet and another unbeaten away day - one single defeat in eight away games this season. Our players were still clearly suffering some side affects from 120 minutes the other night and were below our best. Under the circumstances I'd say it was far from "shocking" or "woeful". As for the atmosphere, I didn't think it was terrible and you gave to bear in mind how far we were from the pitch. It's not a great place from which to watch a match. Hope you had a better journey back. Well its a new day , good trip back in time for my fill of beer, would have took a point from the start, so im a bit mre chipper.onwards and upwards.my only concern for us this season is where the goals are gonna come from.i imagine its same for most of us.ps I do turn into a manic depressive everytime we dont win, for that I apologise
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Post by Dingdangdoo on Nov 1, 2015 9:16:09 GMT
Not saying I agree, but when dropping points at home it's critical to get odd points away and set up as such.
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Post by mrred on Nov 1, 2015 9:27:42 GMT
If you think that was a shocking day out you've not been following Stoke long. Fucks sake. Some right fucking shite hawks follow our team these days. Try getting soaked to the skin on an open terrace watching us get a right thumping. Today is nowhere close. Careful, you might be susceptible to a few PM's threatening you to a bit of ago being a 'keyboard warrior'. The OP's pretty good at that.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 1, 2015 9:45:11 GMT
If you think that was a shocking day out you've not been following Stoke long. Fucks sake. Some right fucking shite hawks follow our team these days. Try getting soaked to the skin on an open terrace watching us get a right thumping. Today is nowhere close. Careful, you might be susceptible to a few PM's threatening you to a bit of ago being a 'keyboard warrior'. The OP's pretty good at that. I've no idea about that - but I reckon he's a sound bloke. Taking a 10 hour coach trip to watch your team deserves some big respect. Just a bit of an OTT reaction to what was not as good a performance as he'd have been looking forward to. My response, in fairness, was also somewhat OTT.
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 1, 2015 9:56:47 GMT
fans have a right to be fucking sick of the way we're playing at the moment, 6 hour round trip and we get fuck all apart from a clap at the end that's it, it's easy for some fans who dont make the trip to slag of a fan for slating the way the lads play. What do you want? A medal?
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 1, 2015 9:58:49 GMT
We've become boring. I know this will probably descend into old battlegrounds but I don't mean in a complete lack of ambition way that was prevalent under the worst days of Pulis and I also think boring was good today. We were patched up fitness wise, lacking real squad depth and it was a great point but it lacks any real verve. You look at that advanced middle three of Arnie, Bojan and Shaqiri and it gives you a boner but it's pretty dull stuff, lacking in any penalty area action and every keeper we've played against this year could have had a fag on and dropped his hat on those miniscule shots on target. No keeper has had to play anywhere near like Jack has on countless occasions for us so far this season. I cant believe for a minute (despite his public statements) that Hughes is particularly happy with how we're playing. I admit to only watching it in the pub but there was some pretty hard core Stokies in there playing cards and switching to horse racing from a pretty early stage. Obsessed.
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Post by MilanStokie on Nov 1, 2015 10:00:26 GMT
Very inconsistent is what we are.
I very nearly made a post on Tuesday night saying how a performance such as that has completely united the board and in the face of adversity it was absolutely fantastic to see. Wondering why we couldn't have more of this unity when things weren't going so well.
Then I remembered, it only takes a bit of a lack lustre performance and not taking 3 points in the follow up game to have the regular morons like biscuit bashing us again. 0-0 away at Newcastle is NEVER a bad result and a part from obviously settling for a point from 75 minutes onwards, we still gave it a go and we created some decent stuff in the 1st half. More than half the team had just completed 120 minutes midweek for christ sake. Now Ryan is back and Diouf returning, let's see how we play in the next few games. I am quite confident we will dish out a battering to someone very soon.
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Post by mrred on Nov 1, 2015 10:29:58 GMT
Careful, you might be susceptible to a few PM's threatening you to a bit of ago being a 'keyboard warrior'. The OP's pretty good at that. I've no idea about that - but I reckon he's a sound bloke. Taking a 10 hour coach trip to watch your team deserves some big respect. Just a bit of an OTT reaction to what was not as good a performance as he'd have been looking forward to. My response, in fairness, was also somewhat OTT. Maybe,maybe not. All I know is the Princess mistook a bit of light hearted jibes at one of his posts in the past any suggested we meet and Duke it out. You know, like real men... Doesn't suggest much of a 'nice bloke' to me. But for the record, anyone that spent ten hours of their free time to watch that impotent performance yesterday has my respect.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 10:41:54 GMT
I guess I'm fairly old school when it comes to Stoke City.
Waking up on a Sunday morning having not seen my team beaten the previous day is an absolute joy still, irrespective of performance. We've been away and not lost, I'll take that.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 1, 2015 10:47:03 GMT
I've no idea about that - but I reckon he's a sound bloke. Taking a 10 hour coach trip to watch your team deserves some big respect. Just a bit of an OTT reaction to what was not as good a performance as he'd have been looking forward to. My response, in fairness, was also somewhat OTT. Maybe,maybe not. All I know is the Princess mistook a bit of light hearted jibes at one of his posts in the past any suggested we meet and Duke it out. You know, like real men... Doesn't suggest much of a 'nice bloke' to me. But for the record, anyone that spent ten hours of their free time to watch that impotent performance yesterday has my respect. Stoke's answer to Ronnie Pickering? I guess there has to be one somewhere. Every village has one.
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Post by alansuddick on Nov 1, 2015 10:55:55 GMT
I've no idea about that - but I reckon he's a sound bloke. Taking a 10 hour coach trip to watch your team deserves some big respect. Just a bit of an OTT reaction to what was not as good a performance as he'd have been looking forward to. My response, in fairness, was also somewhat OTT. Maybe,maybe not. All I know is the Princess mistook a bit of light hearted jibes at one of his posts in the past any suggested we meet and Duke it out. You know, like real men... Doesn't suggest much of a 'nice bloke' to me. But for the record, anyone that spent ten hours of their free time to watch that impotent performance yesterday has my respect. I apologise to both of you, in the light of the next day im a fairly decent family man but after a stoke game I am a bit like the hulk.sorry again.i think ill take a 3 month sabatical from the oatie!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 1, 2015 11:06:06 GMT
We've become boring. I know this will probably descend into old battlegrounds but I don't mean in a complete lack of ambition way that was prevalent under the worst days of Pulis and I also think boring was good today. We were patched up fitness wise, lacking real squad depth and it was a great point but it lacks any real verve. You look at that advanced middle three of Arnie, Bojan and Shaqiri and it gives you a boner but it's pretty dull stuff, lacking in any penalty area action and every keeper we've played against this year could have had a fag on and dropped his hat on those miniscule shots on target. No keeper has had to play anywhere near like Jack has on countless occasions for us so far this season. I cant believe for a minute (despite his public statements) that Hughes is particularly happy with how we're playing. I admit to only watching it in the pub but there was some pretty hard core Stokies in there playing cards and switching to horse racing from a pretty early stage. Obsessed. I might have guessed having a reasonable discussion with you wasn't really on the cards.
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Post by mrred on Nov 1, 2015 11:11:29 GMT
Maybe,maybe not. All I know is the Princess mistook a bit of light hearted jibes at one of his posts in the past any suggested we meet and Duke it out. You know, like real men... Doesn't suggest much of a 'nice bloke' to me. But for the record, anyone that spent ten hours of their free time to watch that impotent performance yesterday has my respect. I apologise to both of you, in the light of the next day im a fairly decent family man but after a stoke game I am a bit like the hulk.sorry again.i think ill take a 3 month sabatical from the oatie! Fair play to you mate. I'm sure in the light of day we'd get along amicably whilst enjoying a cold one. Have a good one.
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Post by scfcwebby on Nov 1, 2015 11:32:14 GMT
I would have taken a point before the game but it was my first away game since Rochdale and I must admit I left the ground being a little dejected with the point that I would have more than taken before we kicked off.
It was obvious in the second half that we had no intention of winning the game whatsoever, whether that be tactics or fatigue from Tuesday, who knows?
The most disappointing thing for me was our reluctance / inability to have a shot on goal! We had countless opportunities to put an effort in but instead opted to try and walk it in and it was not working. Our subs again were baffling and far too late for any of them to have any sort of impact.
Our play in patches was good and it was good to see Shaqiri start to show glimpses of what he can do." And Butland showed again that he is a phenomenal goalkeeper!
In summary after sleeping on it, the point is a good one away at St James Park, and I revert back to my initial thought of "I will take that" however we need to improve our attempts on goal / on target, if you don't score, you can't win!
A good day out and on to getting Mourinho the chop next week!
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 1, 2015 11:46:37 GMT
Maybe,maybe not. All I know is the Princess mistook a bit of light hearted jibes at one of his posts in the past any suggested we meet and Duke it out. You know, like real men... Doesn't suggest much of a 'nice bloke' to me. But for the record, anyone that spent ten hours of their free time to watch that impotent performance yesterday has my respect. I apologise to both of you, in the light of the next day im a fairly decent family man but after a stoke game I am a bit like the hulk.sorry again.i think ill take a 3 month sabatical from the oatie! No need for a sabbatical. It's a message board - a place for folk to let of steam. And smile afterwards. Respect.
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Post by stantheman on Nov 1, 2015 11:59:33 GMT
Did anyone read my piece, kindly printed by Bunny, in a recent 'Duck' magazine? It was titled 'From Russia with love, via Portman Road'. It depicted the away day from hell to Ipswich in 1989. If anyone wants to read this piece of Shakespearean literary genius, PM me!
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Post by no1972 on Nov 1, 2015 12:06:14 GMT
Why won't some people on this board except we have been shit the last two league games and if it was not for our keeper we most proberly be closer to the bottom three,this season reminds me of the season Ritchie Barker decided to change all the good work from the season before,and those of us who were around then no what followed.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 1, 2015 12:12:57 GMT
Why won't some people on this board except we have been shit the last two league games and if it was not for our keeper we most proberly be closer to the bottom three, this season reminds me of the season Ritchie Barker decided to change all the good work from the season before,and those of us who were around then no what followed. Congratulations. In a stiff competition for the most stupid post ever posted on this message board, you've just set a new high (or low).
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Post by werrington on Nov 1, 2015 12:15:52 GMT
Why won't some people on this board except we have been shit the last two league games and if it was not for our keeper we most proberly be closer to the bottom three,this season reminds me of the season Ritchie Barker decided to change all the good work from the season before,and those of us who were around then no what followed. Dear god ....have I just read that bollocks ?
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Post by no1972 on Nov 1, 2015 12:29:33 GMT
Why won't some people on this board except we have been shit the last two league games and if it was not for our keeper we most proberly be closer to the bottom three,this season reminds me of the season Ritchie Barker decided to change all the good work from the season before,and those of us who were around then no what followed. Dear god ....have I just read that bollocks ? Let's see who's right or wrong after the next 10 games and I hope it's me who is wrong.
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 1, 2015 12:40:52 GMT
We got a point at a club that spent over £52M in the summer.
They had a £12M winger on the bench.
We dominated the first half without really making any chances apart from the sitter SJW managed to totally miss and the little run by Bojan that clearly should have got us a free kick on the edge of their area.
Newcastle is a geat city to watch football. Probably the best located ground in relation to the city in the Prem.
If you had a bad day yesterday it could be because you just didn't try very hard.
(If you don't like coach travel there is always the train or maybe you could drive.)
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Nov 1, 2015 12:57:54 GMT
Impressive net spend by Newcastle. Biscuit boy must be impressed by them and their ceo.
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