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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 15:40:12 GMT
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Post by whydelilah on Jan 10, 2016 15:40:12 GMT
Who would you leave out to accommodate him? Cameron. And drop Affelay into midfield?
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 15:44:06 GMT
Post by spongebobflathead on Jan 10, 2016 15:44:06 GMT
Who would you leave out to accommodate him? Cameron. That's the way I would go, it would be a little harsh to leave afaley out ,he's proven a few wrong ! The problem is accommodating joselu , I really do struggle to see where he fits in with his style of play !
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 15:51:38 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 15:51:38 GMT
Improving player
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 15:52:04 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 10, 2016 15:52:04 GMT
And drop Affelay into midfield? Should have been done weeks ago.
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 15:53:18 GMT
Post by kustokie on Jan 10, 2016 15:53:18 GMT
And drop Affelay into midfield? Should have been done weeks ago. Here we go again!
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 15:54:15 GMT
Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 10, 2016 15:54:15 GMT
Hes got the makings of a top player and deserves a run in the side Who would you leave out to accommodate him? Whelan.
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 15:57:33 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 10, 2016 15:57:33 GMT
Should have been done weeks ago. Here we go again! It should have been but don't worry, I would have done it to rest both Cameron and Whelan. Both look like they're carrying an injury and neither should have played all of the games over Christmas. Put your pitchfork down!
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 16:00:32 GMT
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Post by whydelilah on Jan 10, 2016 16:00:32 GMT
To be fair, Affelay's distribution is outstanding.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 10, 2016 16:04:30 GMT
To be fair, Affelay's distribution is outstanding. We have no one in midfield who can control the game currently as he's too far up the pitch and the ball is barely getting to him. Get him deeper, get Bojan deeper and we should get better.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 10, 2016 16:18:26 GMT
And drop Affelay into midfield? I have to confess to being confused by this when Bayern brings it up. Affelay has been playing in midfield hasn't he?
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 16:19:18 GMT
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Post by whydelilah on Jan 10, 2016 16:19:18 GMT
And drop Affelay into midfield? I have to confess to being confused by this when Bayern brings it up. Affelay has been playing in midfield hasn't he? He's been playing higher up the pitch than Cameron.
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 16:21:47 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 10, 2016 16:21:47 GMT
And drop Affelay into midfield? I have to confess to being confused by this when Bayern brings it up. Affelay has been playing in midfield hasn't he? He's been playing ahead of the other two for me. He's not been as forward as a #10 or deep enough to be a central midfielder, it's why I think it's wasted. He's offering very little whereas we need someone deeper to get the ball and dictate the play, no one is doing that. He needs to. It's an easy fix. Get him in a 2, get Bojan deeper.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 10, 2016 16:22:36 GMT
I have to confess to being confused by this when Bayern brings it up. Affelay has been playing in midfield hasn't he? He's been playing higher up the pitch than Cameron. Perhaps marginally but since we've gone with a false 9 we've played with a genuine midfield three. Whelan has been deeper than the other two and Geoff and Afellay have alternated. Afellay has been perhaps naturally the more advanced of the two but they've both been playing in central midfield. Bojan has essentially still been in the hole.
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 16:22:51 GMT
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 10, 2016 16:22:51 GMT
Apart from affelay was an absolute pointless signing and offers nothing?
You're a fucking joke.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 10, 2016 16:23:28 GMT
I have to confess to being confused by this when Bayern brings it up. Affelay has been playing in midfield hasn't he? He's been playing ahead of the other two for me. He's not been as forward as a #10 or deep enough to be a central midfielder, it's why I think it's wasted. He's offering very little whereas we need someone deeper to get the ball and dictate the play, no one is doing that. He needs to. It's an easy fix. Get him in a 2, get Bojan deeper. Bojan has been pretty deep though. It's not like he's been playing as a centre forward.
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 16:25:09 GMT
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Post by whydelilah on Jan 10, 2016 16:25:09 GMT
He's been playing higher up the pitch than Cameron. Perhaps marginally but since we've gone with a false 9 we've played with a genuine midfield three. Whelan has been deeper than the other two and Geoff and Afellay have alternated. Afellay has been perhaps naturally the more advanced of the two but they've both been playing in central midfield. Bojan has essentially still been in the hole. I don't quite read it that way. To drop Cameron for Joselu would mean Affelay playing a different role to what he is now. I think he's perfectly capable of playing it mind.
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 16:25:49 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 10, 2016 16:25:49 GMT
He's been playing ahead of the other two for me. He's not been as forward as a #10 or deep enough to be a central midfielder, it's why I think it's wasted. He's offering very little whereas we need someone deeper to get the ball and dictate the play, no one is doing that. He needs to. It's an easy fix. Get him in a 2, get Bojan deeper. Bojan has been pretty deep though. It's not like he's been playing as a centre forward. He has and we've had no cunt up front. It's shite and a massive part of the problem. Get a bloke up front who can help an link with Bojan. Get someone in the middle who can help and link with Bojan. And we should flourish. This false 9 shit needs binning asap.
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 16:26:30 GMT
Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 10, 2016 16:26:30 GMT
Perhaps marginally but since we've gone with a false 9 we've played with a genuine midfield three. Whelan has been deeper than the other two and Geoff and Afellay have alternated. Afellay has been perhaps naturally the more advanced of the two but they've both been playing in central midfield. Bojan has essentially still been in the hole. I don't quite read it that way. To drop Cameron for Joselu would mean Affelay playing a different role to what he is now. I think he's perfectly capable of playing it mind. I agree it'd be different as he'd have more defensive work to do owing to dropping one of the midfield three. I agree it's worth a try.
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 16:27:17 GMT
Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 10, 2016 16:27:17 GMT
Bojan has been pretty deep though. It's not like he's been playing as a centre forward. He has and we've had no cunt up front. It's shite and a massive part of the problem. Get a bloke up front who can help an link with Bojan. Get someone in the middle who can help and link with Bojan. And we should flourish. This false 9 shit needs binning asap. I think I'm ready for us to start playing a striker again now yeah.
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 10, 2016 16:27:57 GMT
Who would you leave out to accommodate him? Whelan. Sorry but are you mental?
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 16:29:09 GMT
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Post by whydelilah on Jan 10, 2016 16:29:09 GMT
I don't quite read it that way. To drop Cameron for Joselu would mean Affelay playing a different role to what he is now. I think he's perfectly capable of playing it mind. I agree it'd be different as he'd have more defensive work to do owing to dropping one of the midfield three. I agree it's worth a try. I think Affelay is the best passer of the ball I've ever seen play for us. His touch, technique and vision are all first class. After a start where I wasn't sure where he slotted in, he's fast becoming an integral cog.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 10, 2016 16:39:41 GMT
I agree it'd be different as he'd have more defensive work to do owing to dropping one of the midfield three. I agree it's worth a try. I think Affelay is the best passer of the ball I've ever seen play for us. His touch, technique and vision are all first class. After a start where I wasn't sure where he slotted in, he's fast becoming an integral cog. He's been our most consistent player of the last month or so and is brilliant to watch. I wonder if the false 9 gives him more space and protection than he'd get in the normal system but there's nothing to lose by giving it a try. He's undroppable at the moment. All of our best play goes through him.
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 16:40:10 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 10, 2016 16:40:10 GMT
I agree it'd be different as he'd have more defensive work to do owing to dropping one of the midfield three. I agree it's worth a try. I think Affelay is the best passer of the ball I've ever seen play for us. His touch, technique and vision are all first class. After a start where I wasn't sure where he slotted in, he's fast becoming an integral cog. He could be (still don't think he's better than Fonz) but he needs to do one thing to change that. I think he's way less risk averse than even Fonzy was, he's better than that.
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 17:09:48 GMT
Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 10, 2016 17:09:48 GMT
I agree it'd be different as he'd have more defensive work to do owing to dropping one of the midfield three. I agree it's worth a try. I think Affelay is the best passer of the ball I've ever seen play for us. His touch, technique and vision are all first class. After a start where I wasn't sure where he slotted in, he's fast becoming an integral cog. Best passer we've had since Hudson first time around imho.
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 17:19:01 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 10, 2016 17:19:01 GMT
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 17:26:07 GMT
Post by Pugsley on Jan 10, 2016 17:26:07 GMT
I think Affelay is the best passer of the ball I've ever seen play for us. His touch, technique and vision are all first class. After a start where I wasn't sure where he slotted in, he's fast becoming an integral cog. He could be (still don't think he's better than Fonz) but he needs to do one thing to change that. I think he's way less risk averse than even Fonzy was, he's better than that. Technically he's better than N'Zonzi but not athletically as good. Zonz just could open his legs and and stride past people with ease. My team for Weds would be Jack GlennJ Ryan Wolly Erik Affelay Cameron Shaq Bojan Marko Joselu Whelan if Geoff isn't fit.
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 17:28:43 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 10, 2016 17:28:43 GMT
He could be (still don't think he's better than Fonz) but he needs to do one thing to change that. I think he's way less risk averse than even Fonzy was, he's better than that. Technically he's better than N'Zonzi but not athletically as good. Zonz just could open his legs and and stride past people with ease. My team for Weds would be Jack GlennJ Ryan Wolly Erik Affelay Cameron Shaq Bojan Marko Joselu Whelan if Geoff isn't fit. I agree with that but still think Fonz was the better passer for us (the stats show that) but I think Afellay is allowed he can beat that with ease because I think he is better technically too. Like Fonz he has a great knack of making space of himself, it's great to watch. I'd go with that but have Whelan instead of Cameron.
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 17:30:11 GMT
Post by Pugsley on Jan 10, 2016 17:30:11 GMT
Technically he's better than N'Zonzi but not athletically as good. Zonz just could open his legs and and stride past people with ease. My team for Weds would be Jack GlennJ Ryan Wolly Erik Affelay Cameron Shaq Bojan Marko Joselu Whelan if Geoff isn't fit. I agree with that but still think Fonz was the better passer for us (the stats show that) but I think Afellay is allowed he can beat that with ease because I think he is better technically too. Like Fonz he has a great knack of making space of himself, it's great to watch. I'd go with that but have Whelan instead of Cameron. I'd save Whelan for Arsenal.
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Joselu
Jan 10, 2016 17:31:27 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 10, 2016 17:31:27 GMT
I agree with that but still think Fonz was the better passer for us (the stats show that) but I think Afellay is allowed he can beat that with ease because I think he is better technically too. Like Fonz he has a great knack of making space of himself, it's great to watch. I'd go with that but have Whelan instead of Cameron. I'd save Whelan for Arsenal. I'd be tempted for both of them vs Arsenal.
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 10, 2016 17:38:25 GMT
I'd save Whelan for Arsenal. I'd be tempted for both of them vs Arsenal. Something we agree on! As I'd drop afellay for whelan against Arsenal.
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