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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2015 8:10:02 GMT
Anyone watch the class of 92 last night ? They seemed to have good intentions to start with but changing the club badge and colour of the strip smacks of arrogance, it's our club now we'll do what we want
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Post by Northy on Oct 30, 2015 8:15:14 GMT
Ive recorded it, may delete it now I know what's happened
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Post by Danstoke82 on Oct 30, 2015 8:22:09 GMT
I really enjoyed the program.
Im not overly sure as to why people got so hell bent on bringing in an investor and changing things about?.
If they were all a bunch of foreigners with no idea, no links and no support for the club then I would understand but in fairness, they are from the area and have a passion for the game. All they want to do is help the club and build it up.
Thought Gary and Phil Neville were top draw though. Scholes has the personality of a fish and I forgot Nicky Butt was involved.
Really good watch that, shows the difference between the pampered prima donnas in the top flight to the ones that have to rough it in the Evo-Stik league. Proper grass roots footy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2015 8:32:36 GMT
I got the impression the fans didn't want change,don't have the same ambitions as Neville and are happy to be a crappy non league club
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2015 8:35:56 GMT
Tough shit innit.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 30, 2015 8:37:18 GMT
Have they changed their nickname to the new shit
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Post by MrFlirty on Oct 30, 2015 8:42:23 GMT
Really enjoyed it. The players involved have a lifelong winning mentality so they obviously want to make the club a success. It's hard for the fans to take but at the end of he day we all want "our club" to win games. Winning means promotion and improving players and club standards. Being part of the club is what keeps some of those people going so as long as they are kept involved but at some point it will have to change due to rules and regulations. So you either watch your club lose all the time and stay as it it is or embrace the change and enjoy the ride. Seems like I'm talking about Stoke as well doesn't it
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2015 9:58:04 GMT
I enjoyed it. Good to see working class people really wanting to be involved with their club. The fans that is. The house some of these professional's live in are sickening though!
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Post by dirtygary69 on Oct 30, 2015 10:02:17 GMT
That Gareth Seddon is a right fucking bellpiece. That aside, I can't see how anybody who has an interest in football would not find the programme interesting. Really good watch and I don't think there are many more passionate or knowledgeable people than Gary Neville.
I'll probably go and watch them at Nantwich tonight. Should be a decent game.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2015 10:09:56 GMT
I sort of sympathised with the bloke who said if he wants to watch a top team he can, he doesn't want Salford to be anything else. Good show though and I really like Gary Neville
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Post by wuzza on Oct 30, 2015 10:28:21 GMT
Can't say I thought it was any good - more scripted than an episode of Corrie.
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Post by DentySCFC on Oct 30, 2015 10:44:34 GMT
I thought it was a cracking doc, much better than the film which was a bit self-aggrandising.
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Post by Trouserdog on Oct 30, 2015 10:51:33 GMT
Thought this was a good show and captured the essence of non-league football quite well.
Jason Jarrett, who I remember appearing on-loan for us, epitomised the once-famous player now bumming around in the non-league and struggling to come to terms with his reduced status. Unfortunately it seems that a lot of players are just not mentally prepared for the slump that follows retirement or the day when 50,000 people singing their name at Old Trafford is replaced by five blokes hurling abuse at them on a mud heap. Some players handle it better than others: Gary Neville is obviously an intelligent man who understands the importance of keeping himself busy and finding a new niche for himself, but many others will lack the insight to prepare themselves for the day when their bodies can no longer perform at the level they're used to.
People might not feel comfortable in feeling sympathy for guys who are being paid thousands of pounds a week, but I think that any amount of material possessions can become immaterial in comparison to a loss of self-worth, self-identity and purpose. It does make you wonder whether football clubs realise that this sense of loss can affect players' mental health and whether they feel any obligation to provide support to players in preparing for the day they hang their boots up.
The programme only touched on this issue but it did get me thinking.
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Post by Linx on Oct 30, 2015 11:21:44 GMT
Who was the last guy in the line of that snapshot of the Class of 92? I recognised the five Salford owners plus Becks, but there was a less memorable face on the far right hand side.
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Post by whydelilah on Oct 30, 2015 11:28:20 GMT
Thought this was a good show and captured the essence of non-league football quite well. Jason Jarrett, who I remember appearing on-loan for us, epitomised the once-famous player now bumming around in the non-league and struggling to come to terms with his reduced status. Unfortunately it seems that a lot of players are just not mentally prepared for the slump that follows retirement or the day when 50,000 people singing their name at Old Trafford is replaced by five blokes hurling abuse at them on a mud heap. Some players handle it better than others: Gary Neville is obviously an intelligent man who understands the importance of keeping himself busy and finding a new niche for himself, but many others will lack the insight to prepare themselves for the day when their bodies can no longer perform at the level they're used to. People might not feel comfortable in feeling sympathy for guys who are being paid thousands of pounds a week, but I think that any amount of material possessions can become immaterial in comparison to a loss of self-worth, self-identity and purpose. It does make you wonder whether football clubs realise that this sense of loss can affect players' mental health and whether they feel any obligation to provide support to players in preparing for the day they hang their boots up. The programme only touched on this issue but it did get me thinking. Exellent post mate. I've got the show recored so hopefully I'll get round to it this weekend.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2015 11:52:48 GMT
Who was the last guy in the line of that snapshot of the Class of 92? I recognised the five Salford owners plus Becks, but there was a less memorable face on the far right hand side. Was it Lee Sharpe?
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Post by Squeekster on Oct 30, 2015 11:55:35 GMT
Thought this was a good show and captured the essence of non-league football quite well. Jason Jarrett, who I remember appearing on-loan for us, epitomised the once-famous player now bumming around in the non-league and struggling to come to terms with his reduced status. Unfortunately it seems that a lot of players are just not mentally prepared for the slump that follows retirement or the day when 50,000 people singing their name at Old Trafford is replaced by five blokes hurling abuse at them on a mud heap. Some players handle it better than others: Gary Neville is obviously an intelligent man who understands the importance of keeping himself busy and finding a new niche for himself, but many others will lack the insight to prepare themselves for the day when their bodies can no longer perform at the level they're used to. People might not feel comfortable in feeling sympathy for guys who are being paid thousands of pounds a week, but I think that any amount of material possessions can become immaterial in comparison to a loss of self-worth, self-identity and purpose. It does make you wonder whether football clubs realise that this sense of loss can affect players' mental health and whether they feel any obligation to provide support to players in preparing for the day they hang their boots up. The programme only touched on this issue but it did get me thinking. I agree to point but if you look at the 5 owners they have clearly set themselves up with life after football but by their own admission Jason and Joanne were talking of wasting money on clothes and cars and now the money has stopped they can't lead the high life any more. He was on £9k a week in his hay day players should think about the short life span of footballers and plan ahead I know it's easier said than done but it's a hard fact of the game.
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Post by Linx on Oct 30, 2015 11:58:27 GMT
Who was the last guy in the line of that snapshot of the Class of 92? I recognised the five Salford owners plus Becks, but there was a less memorable face on the far right hand side. Was it Lee Sharpe? Don't think so. Wasn't Sharpe slightly earlier? Sharpe was surplus to requirements by the mid-90s, and I suspect that photo was taken when Sharpe was a senior player, not a youngster.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2015 12:04:42 GMT
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Post by Linx on Oct 30, 2015 12:08:05 GMT
Thanks, bayern. Any idea?
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Post by Squeekster on Oct 30, 2015 12:11:04 GMT
The only one I remember with black hair was Keith Gillespie.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2015 12:13:23 GMT
Paper boy
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2015 12:14:27 GMT
Thanks, bayern. Any idea? Not a clue! Even the reports I've seen with that photo just ignore him. There was one player who at the time was better than them all but just didn't have the drive to succeed, I'm guessing it could be him?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2015 12:16:11 GMT
Thought this was a good show and captured the essence of non-league football quite well. Jason Jarrett, who I remember appearing on-loan for us, epitomised the once-famous player now bumming around in the non-league and struggling to come to terms with his reduced status. Unfortunately it seems that a lot of players are just not mentally prepared for the slump that follows retirement or the day when 50,000 people singing their name at Old Trafford is replaced by five blokes hurling abuse at them on a mud heap. Some players handle it better than others: Gary Neville is obviously an intelligent man who understands the importance of keeping himself busy and finding a new niche for himself, but many others will lack the insight to prepare themselves for the day when their bodies can no longer perform at the level they're used to. People might not feel comfortable in feeling sympathy for guys who are being paid thousands of pounds a week, but I think that any amount of material possessions can become immaterial in comparison to a loss of self-worth, self-identity and purpose. It does make you wonder whether football clubs realise that this sense of loss can affect players' mental health and whether they feel any obligation to provide support to players in preparing for the day they hang their boots up. The programme only touched on this issue but it did get me thinking. I agree to point but if you look at the 5 owners they have clearly set themselves up with life after football but by their own admission Jason and Joanne were talking of wasting money on clothes and cars and now the money has stopped they can't lead the high life any more. He was on £9k a week in his hay day players should think about the short life span of footballers and plan ahead I know it's easier said than done but it's a hard fact of the game. United players' wages leave them better equipped to deal with the issues that face the end of a footballers career, than the likes of Jason Jarrett. I could probably spend a lot of £9,000 a week but would struggle with £90,000.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2015 12:16:52 GMT
Thanks, bayern. Any idea? Not a clue! Even the reports I've seen with that photo just ignore him. There was one player who at the time was better than them all but just didn't have the drive to succeed, I'm guessing it could be him? He was a black fella, can't remember his name but he is in the film. Unless you're talking about Robbie Savage.....
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Post by Squeekster on Oct 30, 2015 12:19:44 GMT
I agree to point but if you look at the 5 owners they have clearly set themselves up with life after football but by their own admission Jason and Joanne were talking of wasting money on clothes and cars and now the money has stopped they can't lead the high life any more. He was on £9k a week in his hay day players should think about the short life span of footballers and plan ahead I know it's easier said than done but it's a hard fact of the game. United players' wages leave them better equipped to deal with the issues that face the end of a footballers career, than the likes of Jason Jarrett. I could probably spend a lot of £9,000 a week but would struggle with £90,000. All well and good but £9k a week back then was still a hell of a lot of money and failure to plan ahead has lead to his down fall after all we all have pension plans these days for when we have to retire and we aren't on £9k a week.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2015 12:19:46 GMT
Not a clue! Even the reports I've seen with that photo just ignore him. There was one player who at the time was better than them all but just didn't have the drive to succeed, I'm guessing it could be him? He was a black fella, can't remember his name but he is in the film. Unless you're talking about Robbie Savage..... I'm not about that twat no but I can't remember that bloke......obviously!
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Post by broadack on Oct 30, 2015 12:20:15 GMT
It's Terry Cooke.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2015 12:23:23 GMT
United players' wages leave them better equipped to deal with the issues that face the end of a footballers career, than the likes of Jason Jarrett. I could probably spend a lot of £9,000 a week but would struggle with £90,000. All well and good but £9k a week back then was still a hell of a lot of money and failure to plan ahead has lead to his down fall after all we all have pension plans these days for when we have to retire and we aren't on £9k a week. Yeah I know where you're coming from but it's easier said than done I think. We can be very weak-minded creatures by nature.
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Post by Squeekster on Oct 30, 2015 12:26:30 GMT
The youth squad was Rahpeal Burke,Gary Neville,Simon Davies,John O'Kane,Andy Noone,Nick Butt,Ben Thorley,Robbie Savage,David Beckham,George Switzer,Keith Gillespie,Paul Scholes,Chris Casper and don't know the keeper. Although the 93 squad had a few differen't players so not sure when that photo is from.
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