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Post by swampySCFC on Jun 30, 2015 21:58:52 GMT
Soon as Butland signed a 4 year contract he knew something was happening. Writing on the wall
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Post by nutterpotter on Jun 30, 2015 22:03:34 GMT
Give it 6 months and you'll all be saying how crap Butland is and how you wish Begovic was still with you!!..When I was bragging up Cardiff's keeper (Marshall) on here just over a year ago, most of you were saying that he was nothing compared to Bego- who was some sort of Goalkeeping god, and that Banks and Shilton were nothing compared to him...Dear oh dear. Begovic is still a top class keeper. I think the fact he's moving to Chelsea proves that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 22:04:19 GMT
Give it 6 months and you'll all be saying how crap Butland is and how you wish Begovic was still with you!!..When I was bragging up Cardiff's keeper (Marshall) on here just over a year ago, most of you were saying that he was nothing compared to Bego- who was some sort of Goalkeeping god, and that Banks and Shilton were nothing compared to him...Dear oh dear. See, now that's just a waste of internet.
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Post by Menorca Stokie on Jun 30, 2015 22:21:07 GMT
Cheers Bego, you have been a loyal servant over the past few years and served us well. Let's remember that he was linked with big money moves last year and stated he wanted to stay. The reality is, if you personally were a top class footballer and you had the chance to play for Su der land or Chelsea who would you choose? I use Sunderland as 1, they are a bigger club than us and secondly its removing the emotion out of your decision.
Suddenly Bego will be part of one of the biggest and richest teams in the world and on a whole lot more money than we can pay him. It's a no brainier as far as he is concerned, whether it will work out and he'll become the number 1 is a different matter, time will tell.
I'd refer to sell Bego and keep Nzonzi personally, we already have a very good replacement in Butland but replacing The Fonz if he leaves will be a tall order. We are however I. A similar position if he does not want to sign a new contract, we need to sell now to get a decent return on him. I really hope he stays and signs a new contract.
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Post by smiler_andy on Jun 30, 2015 23:34:07 GMT
Chelsea supporters at least know quality players
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 1, 2015 0:03:50 GMT
I have absolutely no doubt Butland will prove to be as good as Bego in 12 months time
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Post by johnfarmersmum on Jul 1, 2015 0:26:33 GMT
When Banks' had to retire all those years ago John Farmer went between the sticks and we achieved 5th position. All is not lost if Bego leaves.
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Post by britsabroad on Jul 1, 2015 7:18:13 GMT
Its understandable he wants to go and be in with a shot of winning trophies and play for a big club, but to go and warm Chelsea's bench? No loyalty there and only after the paycheck. Not what i expected and surely he had better options. He was never worth the ridiculous figures some on here thought last season but hes better than that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 7:57:25 GMT
I think if Begovic was truthful he will have wanted more than Chelsea's bench from this summer, it's a waste of his talent, but I do understand the decision he's reached. Stoke may have sneaked into the Europa, but, as unpalatable as it is, he's probably gone as far as he can with Stoke. Even Stoke play their reserve keeper in cup games so the prospect of a Wembley final with us was remote - he'll probably get that with Chelsea (and win). £80k a week helps too obviously . If he does sneak a starting spot at Chelsea for whatever reason he could play in some major games for them too. And if it doesn't work out he'll move on in 2 years, when he's still only 30. Bring on Butland. We'll just have to resist the temptation to analyse every goal we concede next season and wonder if Bego would have saved it.
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Post by RAF on Jul 1, 2015 8:08:28 GMT
Give it 6 months and you'll all be saying how crap Butland is and how you wish Begovic was still with you!!..When I was bragging up Cardiff's keeper (Marshall) on here just over a year ago, most of you were saying that he was nothing compared to Bego- who was some sort of Goalkeeping god, and that Banks and Shilton were nothing compared to him...Dear oh dear. Sorry please clarify? Are you saying that most posters on here said that Bego was better than Banks and Shilton? If so please post a link to this discussion! H
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 8:15:14 GMT
I don't get the criticism for going to Chelsea? If he wants to play for a big club he's going to have to go and compete against a top keeper. It's now or never for him and I wish him all the luck in the word , unless he's in net against us.
Everyone probably told him he had no chance of getting a game in front of David James or Thomas Sorensen, but he managed it then. If he'd listened to the doubters he wouldn't be playing in the Premier League.
If it doesn't work out, he's surely going to get signed by another Premier League team afterwards? And he'll have amassed a fortune in the process.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 8:24:38 GMT
Give it 6 months and you'll all be saying how crap Butland is and how you wish Begovic was still with you!!..When I was bragging up Cardiff's keeper (Marshall) on here just over a year ago, most of you were saying that he was nothing compared to Bego- who was some sort of Goalkeeping god, and that Banks and Shilton were nothing compared to him...Dear oh dear. There was quite a well read piece online detailing how Cardiff's soon to be relegated team was better than Stoke's when analysed player by player. We are hardly alone in having a little bias when it comes to judging the abilities of footballers. If you think Marshall is better than Butland, then fair play to you. I'd be very doubtful that Cardiff's judgement of players' ability and potential is anywhere near as good as Stoke's though. You only have to look at the clubs league positions and the Odemwingie for Jones hilarity. You may well be right, but forgive me for having a little faith in the club that has got nearly every decision right for the last 2 years.
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Post by cousindupree on Jul 1, 2015 8:26:11 GMT
Bego will be huge boots to fill and Jack is young and inexperienced. I have a feeling we will need to score more goals to win games this coming season
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Post by ruts66 on Jul 1, 2015 9:23:54 GMT
Bego will be huge boots to fill and Jack is young and inexperienced. I have a feeling we will need to score more goals to win games this coming season And we will... #Bojanisback
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 1, 2015 10:15:45 GMT
When Banks' had to retire all those years ago John Farmer went between the sticks and we achieved 5th position. All is not lost if Bego leaves. Good point and I would add: We need to be patient with Butland and not put too much pressure on him. John Farmer was always being pressurised by fans who would say "Banksie wouldn't have made that mistake" and by the media who would ask if John was upset every time Banks came back off international duty and displaced him. I can remember occasions when parts of the crowd got on John's back, like we hear at some of today's matches, when some people seem to carry a pet dislike to certain individuals in the team and are not prepared to judge fairly. In the end John's form/confidence suffered and Waddington went for Shilton when he came available. As for Bego, leaving to go and sit in Cech's place on the bench, simply means he has "gone" for the money; he won't be playing in CL.
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Post by mailman44 on Jul 1, 2015 10:29:54 GMT
Give it 6 months and you'll all be saying how crap Butland is and how you wish Begovic was still with you!!..When I was bragging up Cardiff's keeper (Marshall) on here just over a year ago, most of you were saying that he was nothing compared to Bego- who was some sort of Goalkeeping god, and that Banks and Shilton were nothing compared to him...Dear oh dear. Sorry please clarify? Are you saying that most posters on here said that Bego was better than Banks and Shilton? If so please post a link to this discussion! H Mate, this geezer is Cardiff til he dies, just popping over for a wind up and pi$$ take.
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Post by daibando on Jul 1, 2015 13:45:34 GMT
Sorry please clarify? Are you saying that most posters on here said that Bego was better than Banks and Shilton? If so please post a link to this discussion! H Mate, this geezer is Cardiff til he dies, just popping over for a wind up and pi$$ take. No, it wasn't a wind up or I would say it was. I've gone to a lot of trouble to give this reply and I wouldn't do that if it was just a wind up. If you had read the post properly you would realise that. I was and am genuinely suprised at the fickleness of some people on this board. That was my point but it seems a lot of people missed it. I mentioned the Cardiff keeper because that was the context of the discussions at the time, leading to the high praise for Begovic. My point now is how over the top the praise was for Begovic at the time, in comparison to the 'oh well he's done good for us but now we've got a potentially just as good keeper in Butland, so let him go' type of attitude. If Begovic had gone 12 months ago it would have been a disaster for most people on here. Butland does okay for a few games towards the end of the season and suddenly it doesn't really matter so much that Begovic now looks like he's going. That was my point . I'm amazed how the potential leaving of someone so highly praised 12 months ago, can now be met with such a casual attitude from most, though not all admittedly, on this board.
oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/229425/wales-online.............................The whole point in me linking this is to reply to RAF , who asked where it had been written on the Forum, that Begovic was up there as good as any Stoke keeper, and Mailman44 who said I was only on a wind up.Admittedly there was only one poster who specifically compared him to Banks and Shilton but the overall tone concerning Begovic was one of incredible praise. Also let's stick to what the Stoke posters say about Begovic and not the article itself, which was written by a journalist who I said at the time, Cardiff fans didn't take seriously, let alone anyone else.
March4 ...Bego is one of the best I have ever seen (at dominating the area) 10 out of 10.(page1)
Hancock........Begovic is one of the best Goalkeepers in the world.(page1)
March4 again....Bego is probably the best keeper in the world. (page2)
weareinthepremierleague....Begovic is probably in the top 5 keepers in the world and has been linked with a £15 million move. (page2)
meltonjohn.......Fair comment daibando but Begovic is the best keeper Stoke have had since Gordon Banks who I saw play in the 60's, you may have heard of him? Oh, yes and I do know that Peter Shilton played for the Potters as well, not a patch on either .......(page2)
MysticalDescent......The best goalkeeper in the league and possibly the world as well. (page3)
sidlittlesballbag....Trust me, when I say that Begovic is one of the best goalkeepers in world football (page3)
mrpickles.......First world class player I've seen at Stoke. This guy could play for anyone. (page3)
bayernoatcake.....Begovic is world class. (page3) These are just some of the comments on just one thread...I repeat....That is why I can'tunderstand the nonchalent attitude to Begovic going. I thought after these comments that most of you would be totally gutted at his possible leaving
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Post by lastoftheldk on Jul 1, 2015 14:14:17 GMT
Mate, this geezer is Cardiff til he dies, just popping over for a wind up and pi$$ take. No, it wasn't a wind up or I would say it was. I've gone to a lot of trouble to give this reply and I wouldn't do that if it was just a wind up. If you had read the post properly you would realise that. I was and am genuinely suprised at the fickleness of some people on this board. That was my point but it seems a lot of people missed it. I mentioned the Cardiff keeper because that was the context of the discussions at the time, leading to the high praise for Begovic. My point now is how over the top the praise was for Begovic at the time, in comparison to the 'oh well he's done good for us but now we've got a potentially just as good keeper in Butland, so let him go' type of attitude. If Begovic had gone 12 months ago it would have been a disaster for most people on here. Butland does okay for a few games towards the end of the season and suddenly it doesn't really matter so much that Begovic now looks like he's going. That was my point . I'm amazed how the potential leaving of someone so highly praised 12 months ago, can now be met with such a casual attitude from most, though not all admittedly, on this board.
oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/229425/wales-online.............................The whole point in me linking this is to reply to RAF , who asked where it had been written on the Forum, that Begovic was up there as good as any Stoke keeper, and Mailman44 who said I was only on a wind up.Admittedly there was only one poster who specifically compared him to Banks and Shilton but the overall tone concerning Begovic was one of incredible praise. Also let's stick to what the Stoke posters say about Begovic and not the article itself, which was written by a journalist who I said at the time, Cardiff fans didn't take seriously, let alone anyone else.
March4 ...Bego is one of the best I have ever seen (at dominating the area) 10 out of 10.(page1)
Hancock........Begovic is one of the best Goalkeepers in the world.(page1)
March4 again....Bego is probably the best keeper in the world. (page2)
weareinthepremierleague....Begovic is probably in the top 5 keepers in the world and has been linked with a £15 million move. (page2)
meltonjohn.......Fair comment daibando but Begovic is the best keeper Stoke have had since Gordon Banks who I saw play in the 60's, you may have heard of him? Oh, yes and I do know that Peter Shilton played for the Potters as well, not a patch on either .......(page2)
MysticalDescent......The best goalkeeper in the league and possibly the world as well. (page3)
sidlittlesballbag....Trust me, when I say that Begovic is one of the best goalkeepers in world football (page3)
mrpickles.......First world class player I've seen at Stoke. This guy could play for anyone. (page3)
bayernoatcake.....Begovic is world class. (page3) These are just some of the comments on just one thread...I repeat....That is why I can'tunderstand the nonchalent attitude to Begovic going. I thought after these comments that most of you would be totally gutted at his possible leaving Bet you can't find any of the sensible posters
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 14:49:12 GMT
Mate, this geezer is Cardiff til he dies, just popping over for a wind up and pi$$ take. No, it wasn't a wind up or I would say it was. I've gone to a lot of trouble to give this reply and I wouldn't do that if it was just a wind up. If you had read the post properly you would realise that. I was and am genuinely suprised at the fickleness of some people on this board. That was my point but it seems a lot of people missed it. I mentioned the Cardiff keeper because that was the context of the discussions at the time, leading to the high praise for Begovic. My point now is how over the top the praise was for Begovic at the time, in comparison to the 'oh well he's done good for us but now we've got a potentially just as good keeper in Butland, so let him go' type of attitude. If Begovic had gone 12 months ago it would have been a disaster for most people on here. Butland does okay for a few games towards the end of the season and suddenly it doesn't really matter so much that Begovic now looks like he's going. That was my point . I'm amazed how the potential leaving of someone so highly praised 12 months ago, can now be met with such a casual attitude from most, though not all admittedly, on this board.
oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/229425/wales-online.............................The whole point in me linking this is to reply to RAF , who asked where it had been written on the Forum, that Begovic was up there as good as any Stoke keeper, and Mailman44 who said I was only on a wind up.Admittedly there was only one poster who specifically compared him to Banks and Shilton but the overall tone concerning Begovic was one of incredible praise. Also let's stick to what the Stoke posters say about Begovic and not the article itself, which was written by a journalist who I said at the time, Cardiff fans didn't take seriously, let alone anyone else.
March4 ...Bego is one of the best I have ever seen (at dominating the area) 10 out of 10.(page1)
Hancock........Begovic is one of the best Goalkeepers in the world.(page1)
March4 again....Bego is probably the best keeper in the world. (page2)
weareinthepremierleague....Begovic is probably in the top 5 keepers in the world and has been linked with a £15 million move. (page2)
meltonjohn.......Fair comment daibando but Begovic is the best keeper Stoke have had since Gordon Banks who I saw play in the 60's, you may have heard of him? Oh, yes and I do know that Peter Shilton played for the Potters as well, not a patch on either .......(page2)
MysticalDescent......The best goalkeeper in the league and possibly the world as well. (page3)
sidlittlesballbag....Trust me, when I say that Begovic is one of the best goalkeepers in world football (page3)
mrpickles.......First world class player I've seen at Stoke. This guy could play for anyone. (page3)
bayernoatcake.....Begovic is world class. (page3) These are just some of the comments on just one thread...I repeat....That is why I can'tunderstand the nonchalent attitude to Begovic going. I thought after these comments that most of you would be totally gutted at his possible leaving 30 odd degrees outside, the world is your oyster and you've just gone back through old posts and come up with that. Oh and it's not even the forum of the team you support. Get a life boyo..........
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 1, 2015 14:57:21 GMT
No, it wasn't a wind up or I would say it was. I've gone to a lot of trouble to give this reply and I wouldn't do that if it was just a wind up. If you had read the post properly you would realise that. I was and am genuinely suprised at the fickleness of some people on this board. That was my point but it seems a lot of people missed it. I mentioned the Cardiff keeper because that was the context of the discussions at the time, leading to the high praise for Begovic. My point now is how over the top the praise was for Begovic at the time, in comparison to the 'oh well he's done good for us but now we've got a potentially just as good keeper in Butland, so let him go' type of attitude. If Begovic had gone 12 months ago it would have been a disaster for most people on here. Butland does okay for a few games towards the end of the season and suddenly it doesn't really matter so much that Begovic now looks like he's going. That was my point . I'm amazed how the potential leaving of someone so highly praised 12 months ago, can now be met with such a casual attitude from most, though not all admittedly, on this board.
oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/229425/wales-online.............................The whole point in me linking this is to reply to RAF , who asked where it had been written on the Forum, that Begovic was up there as good as any Stoke keeper, and Mailman44 who said I was only on a wind up.Admittedly there was only one poster who specifically compared him to Banks and Shilton but the overall tone concerning Begovic was one of incredible praise. Also let's stick to what the Stoke posters say about Begovic and not the article itself, which was written by a journalist who I said at the time, Cardiff fans didn't take seriously, let alone anyone else.
March4 ...Bego is one of the best I have ever seen (at dominating the area) 10 out of 10.(page1)
Hancock........Begovic is one of the best Goalkeepers in the world.(page1)
March4 again....Bego is probably the best keeper in the world. (page2)
weareinthepremierleague....Begovic is probably in the top 5 keepers in the world and has been linked with a £15 million move. (page2)
meltonjohn.......Fair comment daibando but Begovic is the best keeper Stoke have had since Gordon Banks who I saw play in the 60's, you may have heard of him? Oh, yes and I do know that Peter Shilton played for the Potters as well, not a patch on either .......(page2)
MysticalDescent......The best goalkeeper in the league and possibly the world as well. (page3)
sidlittlesballbag....Trust me, when I say that Begovic is one of the best goalkeepers in world football (page3)
mrpickles.......First world class player I've seen at Stoke. This guy could play for anyone. (page3)
bayernoatcake.....Begovic is world class. (page3) These are just some of the comments on just one thread...I repeat....That is why I can'tunderstand the nonchalent attitude to Begovic going. I thought after these comments that most of you would be totally gutted at his possible leaving Bet you can't find any of the sensible posters People here are simply being REALISTIC. We ALL rate Begovic and he's only being courted by Chelsea because he is a top class keeper. If they wanted an AVERAGE one, they'd sign Marshall. We have to accept that Bego will inevitably go for the money to a much more 'high profile' club and most would make that same decision. Don't confuse that acceptance with not caring that he's going. However, we do have a highly prized young goalkeeper and most of us have faith in him and in our club to have decent cover so making a 5/6 Million profit on Bego in his last year of his contract is probably about the best thing we can do and it's certainly not a disaster.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Jul 1, 2015 15:12:03 GMT
Bet you can't find any of the sensible posters People here are simply being REALISTIC. We ALL rate Begovic and he's only being courted by Chelsea because he is a top class keeper. If they wanted an AVERAGE one, they'd sign Marshall. We have to accept that Bego will inevitably go for the money to a much more 'high profile' club and most would make that same decision. Don't confuse that acceptance with not caring that he's going. However, we do have a highly prized young goalkeeper and most of us have faith in him and in our club to have decent cover so making a 5/6 Million profit on Bego in his last year of his contract is probably about the best thing we can do and it's certainly not a disaster. It is probably the best we could have hoped for with Bego in the last year of his contract. I think Bego ideally would have preferred to bide his time to see how the land lay once De Gea moved, as he would have been number 1 at man yoo. Bego was the best keeper in the league the season before last and i wouldnt have swapped him for any other prem keeper, he was that good. Take that how you like daibando...i never saw Shilton play for Stoke, my old man assured me that John Farmer was good enough replacement for Banks and shilton wasnt even needed. He also said Neil Franklin was the best centre half he'd ever seen...i'll take that judgement rather than your opinion on our keeper (i'd have Marshall here in a flash as backup/rival to Butland)
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Post by 2004 on Jul 1, 2015 15:16:05 GMT
Give it 6 months and you'll all be saying how crap Butland is and how you wish Begovic was still with you!!..When I was bragging up Cardiff's keeper (Marshall) on here just over a year ago, most of you were saying that he was nothing compared to Bego- who was some sort of Goalkeeping god, and that Banks and Shilton were nothing compared to him...Dear oh dear. Why is Marshall a Championship keeper then? Begovic is a much better keeper and that is coming from someone who doesn't like the bloke.
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Post by cmc89 on Jul 1, 2015 15:31:21 GMT
Marshall isn't a bad keeper and I'd have him here. He'd be providing competition though and wouldn't instantly displace butland, who I think we need to give a season to fully settle.
Was bego genuinely one of the best keepers in the league for a good few seasons? Yes
If he had gone last season would we all be worried? Absolutely
Are we as worried this time around? A little but butland has stepped up reasonably well and shown he won't flap at every ball. He may not be as good but he will be doing exactly what bego did when he first arrived, improving every game.
The key thing for us will be to get an experienced number 2 to help him along for the first few seasons. Is that doable? We all hope so.
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Post by daibando on Jul 1, 2015 16:24:59 GMT
30 odd degrees outside, the world is your oyster and you've just gone back through old posts and come up with that. Oh and it's not even the forum of the team you support. Get a life boyo.......... Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/245452/begovic-leaving-bad-blame?page=2#ixzz3eepQJnh1Not 30 degrees here..actually rained earlier on and has been cloudy all day.....I'm not in work until Monday and I'm just chilling out on the comp. Seems alright to me but thanks for the concern Prestwichpotter. I personally think replying to someone without even addressing what they've actually written is a waste of time but there you are
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Post by daibando on Jul 1, 2015 16:27:26 GMT
People here are simply being REALISTIC. We ALL rate Begovic and he's only being courted by Chelsea because he is a top class keeper. If they wanted an AVERAGE one, they'd sign Marshall. We have to accept that Bego will inevitably go for the money to a much more 'high profile' club and most would make that same decision. Don't confuse that acceptance with not caring that he's going. However, we do have a highly prized young goalkeeper and most of us have faith in him and in our club to have decent cover so making a 5/6 Million profit on Bego in his last year of his contract is probably about the best thing we can do and it's certainly not a disaster. It is probably the best we could have hoped for with Bego in the last year of his contract. I think Bego ideally would have preferred to bide his time to see how the land lay once De Gea moved, as he would have been number 1 at man yoo. Bego was the best keeper in the league the season before last and i wouldnt have swapped him for any other prem keeper, he was that good. Take that how you like daibando...i never saw Shilton play for Stoke, my old man assured me that John Farmer was good enough replacement for Banks and shilton wasnt even needed. He also said Neil Franklin was the best centre half he'd ever seen...i'll take that judgement rather than your opinion on our keeper (i'd have Marshall here in a flash as backup/rival to Butland) Fair points but I haven't made any judgment on Begovic, only on some people's reaction to his leaving..
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Jul 1, 2015 17:11:15 GMT
It is probably the best we could have hoped for with Bego in the last year of his contract. I think Bego ideally would have preferred to bide his time to see how the land lay once De Gea moved, as he would have been number 1 at man yoo. Bego was the best keeper in the league the season before last and i wouldnt have swapped him for any other prem keeper, he was that good. Take that how you like daibando...i never saw Shilton play for Stoke, my old man assured me that John Farmer was good enough replacement for Banks and shilton wasnt even needed. He also said Neil Franklin was the best centre half he'd ever seen...i'll take that judgement rather than your opinion on our keeper (i'd have Marshall here in a flash as backup/rival to Butland) Fair points but I haven't made any judgment on Begovic, only on some people's reaction to his leaving.. Fair point, my error. Still gutted if he goes as i still believe he is in the top 3 keepers in league, last year was a blip.
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Post by skelman on Jul 1, 2015 18:21:54 GMT
Top keeper who never sorted out his kicking - oh what a goal that was! Took 1/2 a step back last season by his own very high standards. Got to be worth more than £8!!! Wish him well if he goes, but as a no 2 - surely not. Watch out for Courtois departure before too long .....
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Post by RAF on Jul 1, 2015 18:30:28 GMT
Mate, this geezer is Cardiff til he dies, just popping over for a wind up and pi$$ take. No, it wasn't a wind up or I would say it was. I've gone to a lot of trouble to give this reply and I wouldn't do that if it was just a wind up. If you had read the post properly you would realise that. I was and am genuinely suprised at the fickleness of some people on this board. That was my point but it seems a lot of people missed it. I mentioned the Cardiff keeper because that was the context of the discussions at the time, leading to the high praise for Begovic. My point now is how over the top the praise was for Begovic at the time, in comparison to the 'oh well he's done good for us but now we've got a potentially just as good keeper in Butland, so let him go' type of attitude. If Begovic had gone 12 months ago it would have been a disaster for most people on here. Butland does okay for a few games towards the end of the season and suddenly it doesn't really matter so much that Begovic now looks like he's going. That was my point . I'm amazed how the potential leaving of someone so highly praised 12 months ago, can now be met with such a casual attitude from most, though not all admittedly, on this board.
oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/229425/wales-online.............................The whole point in me linking this is to reply to RAF , who asked where it had been written on the Forum, that Begovic was up there as good as any Stoke keeper, and Mailman44 who said I was only on a wind up.Admittedly there was only one poster who specifically compared him to Banks and Shilton but the overall tone concerning Begovic was one of incredible praise. Also let's stick to what the Stoke posters say about Begovic and not the article itself, which was written by a journalist who I said at the time, Cardiff fans didn't take seriously, let alone anyone else.
March4 ...Bego is one of the best I have ever seen (at dominating the area) 10 out of 10.(page1)
Hancock........Begovic is one of the best Goalkeepers in the world.(page1)
March4 again....Bego is probably the best keeper in the world. (page2)
weareinthepremierleague....Begovic is probably in the top 5 keepers in the world and has been linked with a £15 million move. (page2)
meltonjohn.......Fair comment daibando but Begovic is the best keeper Stoke have had since Gordon Banks who I saw play in the 60's, you may have heard of him? Oh, yes and I do know that Peter Shilton played for the Potters as well, not a patch on either .......(page2)
MysticalDescent......The best goalkeeper in the league and possibly the world as well. (page3)
sidlittlesballbag....Trust me, when I say that Begovic is one of the best goalkeepers in world football (page3)
mrpickles.......First world class player I've seen at Stoke. This guy could play for anyone. (page3)
bayernoatcake.....Begovic is world class. (page3) These are just some of the comments on just one thread...I repeat....That is why I can'tunderstand the nonchalent attitude to Begovic going. I thought after these comments that most of you would be totally gutted at his possible leaving So most people on here didn't say he was better than Banks or Shilton in fact no one did, thanks for clearing that up and proving you were talking shite! Also you quoted March. This is the bloke who said goals and possession aren't important in football. H
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Post by daibando on Jul 1, 2015 19:52:24 GMT
No, it wasn't a wind up or I would say it was. I've gone to a lot of trouble to give this reply and I wouldn't do that if it was just a wind up. If you had read the post properly you would realise that. I was and am genuinely suprised at the fickleness of some people on this board. That was my point but it seems a lot of people missed it. I mentioned the Cardiff keeper because that was the context of the discussions at the time, leading to the high praise for Begovic. My point now is how over the top the praise was for Begovic at the time, in comparison to the 'oh well he's done good for us but now we've got a potentially just as good keeper in Butland, so let him go' type of attitude. If Begovic had gone 12 months ago it would have been a disaster for most people on here. Butland does okay for a few games towards the end of the season and suddenly it doesn't really matter so much that Begovic now looks like he's going. That was my point . I'm amazed how the potential leaving of someone so highly praised 12 months ago, can now be met with such a casual attitude from most, though not all admittedly, on this board.
oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/229425/wales-online.............................The whole point in me linking this is to reply to RAF , who asked where it had been written on the Forum, that Begovic was up there as good as any Stoke keeper, and Mailman44 who said I was only on a wind up.Admittedly there was only one poster who specifically compared him to Banks and Shilton but the overall tone concerning Begovic was one of incredible praise. Also let's stick to what the Stoke posters say about Begovic and not the article itself, which was written by a journalist who I said at the time, Cardiff fans didn't take seriously, let alone anyone else.
March4 ...Bego is one of the best I have ever seen (at dominating the area) 10 out of 10.(page1)
Hancock........Begovic is one of the best Goalkeepers in the world.(page1)
March4 again....Bego is probably the best keeper in the world. (page2)
weareinthepremierleague....Begovic is probably in the top 5 keepers in the world and has been linked with a £15 million move. (page2)
meltonjohn.......Fair comment daibando but Begovic is the best keeper Stoke have had since Gordon Banks who I saw play in the 60's, you may have heard of him? Oh, yes and I do know that Peter Shilton played for the Potters as well, not a patch on either .......(page2)
MysticalDescent......The best goalkeeper in the league and possibly the world as well. (page3)
sidlittlesballbag....Trust me, when I say that Begovic is one of the best goalkeepers in world football (page3)
mrpickles.......First world class player I've seen at Stoke. This guy could play for anyone. (page3)
bayernoatcake.....Begovic is world class. (page3) These are just some of the comments on just one thread...I repeat....That is why I can'tunderstand the nonchalent attitude to Begovic going. I thought after these comments that most of you would be totally gutted at his possible leaving So most people on here didn't say he was better than Banks or Shilton in fact no one did, thanks for clearing that up and proving you were talking shite! Also you quoted March. This is the bloke who said goals and possession aren't important in football. So what was meltonjohn saying then? A fairly ungracious response as I believe I more than backed up what I wrote last night. I did admit after looking back at the thread that there was only one comparison to Shilton and Banks but cut me some slack......considering I was quoting something from memory more than a year ago, I was pretty accurate..Anyway my overall point was made.
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Post by RAF on Jul 2, 2015 10:47:40 GMT
So most people on here didn't say he was better than Banks or Shilton in fact no one did, thanks for clearing that up and proving you were talking shite! Also you quoted March. This is the bloke who said goals and possession aren't important in football. So what was meltonjohn saying then? A fairly ungracious response as I believe I more than backed up what I wrote last night. I did admit after looking back at the thread that there was only one comparison to Shilton and Banks but cut me some slack......considering I was quoting something from memory more than a year ago, I was pretty accurate..Anyway my overall point was made. No it wasn't , it was hyperbole with no actual facts. You said "Most of you" firstly when in fact it wasn't. You said that posters had said Bego was better than Banks and Shilton, not one person said Bego was better than Banks and Shilton. Now call me a miserable cunt but that is not my idea of accuracy at any level. H
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