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Post by stokemark on Oct 24, 2015 17:35:12 GMT
ill be fucked if I know what to make of it !
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Post by Gods on Oct 24, 2015 17:44:41 GMT
I can help you.
Overall and on balance and with hopes so high at the end of last season in my carefully considered opinion it's been a crock of shit.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 24, 2015 17:45:18 GMT
Simply bored.
Well and truly bored.
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 24, 2015 17:46:12 GMT
As good points wise as the previous 2?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 17:47:10 GMT
I know what to make of it...
10 games played to date. 12 points gained.
28 games to play. Same average points over the remaining games as the first 10 games should just about keep us out of the drop zone.
And judging on what I've seen so far, that'll do me nicely thanks.
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Post by chuckrocky on Oct 24, 2015 17:49:03 GMT
We look a decent side away from home and have an excellent points return to show for it.
However at home it's been a completely different story. We haven't managed to put a 90 minute performance together yet and we don't seem to have any real identity. Four points from games against Liverpool, West Brom, Leicester, Bournemouth and Watford really is a dire return and quite worrying.
I'm not worried in the slightest about being in a relegation scrap but I have serious doubts that we'll be reaching our points total of the last couple of seasons.
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Post by wuzza on Oct 24, 2015 17:52:15 GMT
In terms of points gained - it could be a lot worse.
In terms of performance levels, especially at home, it's very very sketchy. We seem to have a large number of players not playing to the standards they can and some of our tactics border on the suicidal.
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 24, 2015 17:53:01 GMT
I really don't think we're as good this year as last, even though the points totals are similar.
Still, onwards and upwards, all teams lose sometimes.
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Post by mrred on Oct 24, 2015 17:53:41 GMT
What worries me is Hughes' inability (Bournemouth aside) to put so called lesser and newly promoted teams away at home. We've just got no answer aside from pondering around outside the box without ever looking remotely threatening. It's beginning to look like the pointless kind of probing football Arsenal used to play. Have all the possession and create bollocks all with it.
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Post by stokemark on Oct 24, 2015 18:02:11 GMT
Home form is a big worry - agree Chuckrocky
We still haven't settled in terms of our best 11 / formation and as much as we bemoan our defensive frailties, we are simply not creating / scoring enough
We have plenty to be optimistic about with the return of Ryan and hopefully Bojan back to 100% soon but still haven't integrated the new boys with only Johnson really showing any sort of consistency. We miss the power and composure of Zonz for sure and for my money, lack pace (hopefully having Diouf back will help)
The manager seems to get things so right (substitutions at Swansea) then so wrong (today taking off Shaq was crazy) - not sure he is really too sure who to persist with and who to drop / replace. In summary we are 'work in progress' - no real surprise given a close season of major restructuring.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Oct 24, 2015 18:09:10 GMT
The points total is about right this team is just about good enough to stay out of trouble at the moment , hopefully it can improve with the return of Ryan and Diouf but apart from Diouf the lack of pace is a big worry and Shaquiri has either not adapted to England or a huge mistake , we will see if he can show more to justify the hype
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Post by march4 on Oct 24, 2015 18:26:11 GMT
Jury is still out even though the season is more than a quarter over.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 24, 2015 18:31:53 GMT
Jury is still out even though the season is more than a quarter over. I haven't got a clue what to make of us this season. We've been good at times and woeful at others. We at least looked quite solid against Swansea, and then take two steps back, today. I don't think we've been entirely convincing in any game yet. |
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Post by penkvillepotter on Oct 24, 2015 18:36:15 GMT
Underwhelming
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Post by nutterpotter on Oct 24, 2015 18:41:29 GMT
We look a decent side away from home and have an excellent points return to show for it. However at home it's been a completely different story. We haven't managed to put a 90 minute performance together yet and we don't seem to have any real identity. Four points from games against Liverpool, West Brom, Leicester, Bournemouth and Watford really is a dire return and quite worrying. I'm not worried in the slightest about being in a relegation scrap but I have serious doubts that we'll be reaching our points total of the last couple of seasons. Last season at home we lost to Villa, Leicester and Burnley. It's a similar early season home form as this season. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Oct 24, 2015 18:43:54 GMT
We need the skipper.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Oct 24, 2015 19:05:02 GMT
Last couple of seasons we've been patchy until Xmas punctuated by the odd 'old school' performance against the Bigger Hitters.
Generally we've been dire against the crappier teams, struggle to string a 90 together, and so it continues.
The early season experimentation, testing out the depth of the squad etc leaves us playing 'catch up' in the New Year.
We've then gone on to look quite something in the latter stages of the season, but left rueing the fact that we put in some abject performances in the first half.
The feeling that we could have been contenders. If only.
Perhaps it's inevitable considering net spend etc, which is true to an extent, but that doesn't mean on an emotional level it's easy to swallow the early disappointments when we're sat watching us demolish a team 6-1 {'Pool} on the last day, having watched the shite turned out on the first day {Villa}.
We seem to be alone in the Premiership in actually planning for a piss poor start.
There are strategies to compensate for a team who need to gel.
I think it's ok to use the Oatcake as a catharsis, vent some spleen.
It'll no doubt be better tomorrow.
We had 70% possession first half but none of it was penetrative.
The majority of our players had a bad day at the office today. I wouldn't really single anyone out for too much spite {I might later}.
Why did we lose and look so poor in the process?
.... because we played monday and it's fucked up our meticulous training schedule? is it because arrogance and complacency are creeping in at home {I include Hughes and co. in that}, is it a Gibbous moon, down to the sprinkling of the pitch {a continual bugbear of mine}, or because a mate had us in an accumulator, or because someone turned to me on the half hour mark and said "I can see this going horribly wrong". Or is it all down to Mackey's seaman sarnie?
It's obviously, for these few moments and hours, because of all of the aforementioned and loads more reasons besides.
To have so many quality players looking so abject surely isn't just a coincidence.
As a Potter I'm grasping at all sorts of rationalisations to avoid noosing mesen, or at least self inflicting alcohol poisoning.
I know deep down it's a momentary blip in an otherwise upwards trajectory but I'll synthesize my anger thus:
- If you're bringing Wilson on to partner Wollscheid then you put them in their natural berth. Wolly right, Willy left. {titter}. Obvious. {and at the same time tether Johnson to the corner flag.} The W's have worked well in that combo several times.
- We're still wank at coming up with effective set piece routines.
- The flexible/rotational forward thing that we're working towards will be spectacular, but for the moment keep it on the training ground and save it for best. {use it to catch teams out when they're trying to have a go at us.}
I'm all for movement off the ball, but we seem to be creating our own congestion. In possession you end up with Bojan, Shaq, Johnson and Arnie all on the right wing together. Too often we limit ourselves to triangular close passing routines. We're Diarylea when we have the potential to be Stilton.
- <Fooking hoof it, {when it's called for.} ... {on a side note~Wollscheid is the least worst at that particular aspect.}
- Today I would have replaced Cameron with Jack and put Crouchy in goal.
- The ref was on our side today and we failed to take advantage of it.
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Post by heisenberg88 on Oct 24, 2015 19:08:51 GMT
We will be fine. Mid table mediocrity
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 24, 2015 19:25:16 GMT
Can't see us winning at home again this calendar year and that wil root us in the relegation battle one home league win in the first half fi the season is quite likely now
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 19:31:22 GMT
Can't see us winning at home again this calendar year and that wil root us in the relegation battle one home league win in the first half fi the season is quite likely now You scum bag troll, crawl back under the rock you came out of. |
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Post by milky on Oct 24, 2015 19:34:28 GMT
Can't see us winning at home again this calendar year and that wil root us in the relegation battle one home league win in the first half fi the season is quite likely now That's the spirit  |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 24, 2015 20:04:02 GMT
Which home games do you see as home wins before jan 1st then codeye just so I know
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 24, 2015 20:10:56 GMT
Which home games do you see as home wins before jan 1st then codeye just so I know We are more than capable of winning all of them just as we are capable of losing all of them. My guess is we'll win some, lose some and draw some. Same away from home and on new years day, we'll have somewhere between 24 and 26 points. |
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Post by numpty40 on Oct 24, 2015 20:12:14 GMT
Benji is the best piss taker this board has ever seen and is likely to see.
I blocked his posts about a month ago when it became really tiresome.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Oct 24, 2015 20:21:18 GMT
Pretty easy to play against at home and wholly predictable - no plan B at all
Yet ok to good away (minus Arsenal and post water break at Norwich)
It was so predictable today that a good Watford would sit back, keep it tight and hit us on the break. To help them we decided our predictable slow build up from the back EVERY time would be the way forward for the whole game and thus they could push up as we don't seem to understand the concept of offside, hassle the centre backs who become full backs when we try to pass out and cut out our midfield
A sad trait from Sparky - it is ok to have a plan B you know and not keep passing out from the back
On saying that, not one bloomin player tipped up today, so find it hard how people on here single players out (except Wilson who did indeed have a shocker). Hughes got his formation wrong, his subs wrong and the players must take the blame as well
No gravity crocodile here, but what a crap day. One shot on target at home is simply inexcusable as is our current home record
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 20:27:48 GMT
Less then a week ago we were all laughing about how pitiful one 3 shots on target was for a home side.
Felt like one of those days today...
Every pass was a yard too far or too short.
Every shot from outside the box ended up in row Z.
Every set piece taken by anyone other then Adam was appalling (and his final corner was worse then the lot).
Total mess all round and I'm not sure who to blame tbh, but all that said we're a quarter of the way through the season and on 12 points. That'd leave us on more or less 40-44 by the end if we keep it up so in all honesty while it's not all rosey right now I no longer see relegation as a realistic threat atleast.
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Oct 24, 2015 20:30:19 GMT
I always have gauged the game on the first 5mins of attaking if stoke are on top were gona have a good chance of winning if the oppo are on top then we've got to up our game today we must have had the first 10 mins of play but never got near their box !
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Post by sufolkstokie on Oct 24, 2015 20:34:13 GMT
Lowest scoring chances created in the league despite that front 4 sort of tells its own story
Our build up and insistence of playing out from the back is at home so predictable and easy to defend
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Post by StokieNath on Oct 24, 2015 20:39:08 GMT
We have been poor all season. Yes we have, it's true. Can any of you recall this season us being the better team and dominating throughout ?, i can't and that's worrying. I've been very disappointed with lads this season, and with Leslie's slow football and our total lack of playing fast attacking football I'm slowly starting to believe our time is running out. We have looked completely clueless in the final third, and something needs addressing quickly.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Oct 24, 2015 20:46:05 GMT
How often in the last 8 years have we dominated a game throughout?
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