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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 3, 2016 20:12:49 GMT
Yes if £10 mil was the buy out clause, that's how buy out clauses work. Paul that's just got to be the minimum not the maximum other wise it's financial suicide? I give up mate.
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Post by miggo on Jan 3, 2016 20:13:03 GMT
remind me not to go into business with you two. You should never be involved in any business dealings of any type if you can't grasp this simple contract clause.
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Bojan
Jan 3, 2016 20:13:04 GMT
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Post by dexta on Jan 3, 2016 20:13:04 GMT
IF AND IT IS A IF...if a player of our club wants to leave no matter who it is...let them go.no player is bigger than the club and if they don't want to play for stoke...fuck em off who ever it might be
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 20:19:59 GMT
Are we talking about a buy out clause or a release clause ? Are they not two separate deals ?
I think Demba Ba had a 7 mill release clause at Newcastle. This was to cover Newcastle if he broke down with injury and couldn't play, they pay him 7 mill and end the contract, cheaper than paying him full wages for years and not being available to play.
I don't know what Bojans on a year, or where this 10 mill figure has come from but maybe we did something similar in view of his injury record ?
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Bojan
Jan 3, 2016 20:20:34 GMT
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Post by slicko on Jan 3, 2016 20:20:34 GMT
Sell to Barca,
loan him back,
build some bridges,
Attack, attack, attack.
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Post by miggo on Jan 3, 2016 20:21:39 GMT
Are we talking about a buy out clause or a release clause ? Are they not two separate deals ? I think Demba Ba had a 7 mill release clause at Newcastle. This was to cover Newcastle if he broke down with injury and couldn't play, they pay him 7 mill and end the contract, cheaper than paying him full wages for years and not being available to play. I don't know what Bojans on a year, or where this 10 mill figure has come from but maybe we did something similar in view of his injury record ? No release fee as in if a club offers x amount the club has to accept that offer and the player is free to negotiate
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Bojan
Jan 3, 2016 20:21:53 GMT
Post by Squeekster on Jan 3, 2016 20:21:53 GMT
remind me not to go into business with you two. You should never be involved in any business dealings of any type if you can't grasp this simple contract clause. So what's that then? So if a club offers the 10 million we have to accept but if another club offers a 100 million we can't accept? I don't think so and as he is still our player we still must have some say.
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Post by miggo on Jan 3, 2016 20:24:12 GMT
You should never be involved in any business dealings of any type if you can't grasp this simple contract clause. So what's that then? So if a club offers the 10 million we have to accept but if another club offers a 100 million we can't accept? I don't think so and as he is still our player we still must have some say. No we can still accept 100m BUT why would a club offer 100m when 10m is automatically accepted. No one ever would. I don't mean to come off offensive but I'm struggling to comprehend how you are still not understanding this?
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Post by miggo on Jan 3, 2016 20:25:10 GMT
So what's that then? So if a club offers the 10 million we have to accept but if another club offers a 100 million we can't accept? I don't think so and as he is still our player we still must have some say. No we can still accept 100m BUT why would a club offer 100m when 10m is automatically accepted. No one ever would. I don't mean to come off offensive but I'm struggling to comprehend how you are still not understanding this? Every club in the world could offer 10m and every single offer would be accepted.
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Bojan
Jan 3, 2016 20:28:05 GMT
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Post by Stoke711 on Jan 3, 2016 20:28:05 GMT
You should never be involved in any business dealings of any type if you can't grasp this simple contract clause. So what's that then? So if a club offers the 10 million we have to accept but if another club offers a 100 million we can't accept? I don't think so and as he is still our player we still must have some say. We have no say in the matter, any offer over the release clause has to be accepted. The player is free to join any club that has met the release clause. We have no say in the matter. Release clauses are for the player, he has all the power.
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Bojan
Jan 3, 2016 20:28:12 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 3, 2016 20:28:12 GMT
remind me not to go into business with you two. Don't worry, you won't be getting any offers
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Bojan
Jan 3, 2016 20:28:20 GMT
Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 3, 2016 20:28:20 GMT
Ultimately it's all speculation theres probably only a handful of people that know the real truth and I'm sure that they have some sort of gagging order where they cant disclose the finer details.
I guess only time will tell. On a positive note at least we have a wonderful player who can fill in straight away in Afellay if the worst happens.
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Bojan
Jan 3, 2016 20:30:55 GMT
Post by Squeekster on Jan 3, 2016 20:30:55 GMT
No we can still accept 100m BUT why would a club offer 100m when 10m is automatically accepted. No one ever would. I don't mean to come off offensive but I'm struggling to comprehend how you are still not understanding this? Every club in the world could offer 10m and every single offer would be accepted. I'm saying that the £10 million is the bench mark figure that opens the door then we have to listen and accept if no other suitors come on board! If then more come to the party and want to offer more so be it.
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Bojan
Jan 3, 2016 20:31:01 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 3, 2016 20:31:01 GMT
You should never be involved in any business dealings of any type if you can't grasp this simple contract clause. So what's that then? So if a club offers the 10 million we have to accept but if another club offers a 100 million we can't accept? I don't think so and as he is still our player we still must have some say. No club is going to offer 100mil when they only need to offer 10 for it to get accepted!!!!!! Any offer of 10mil has to be accepted.
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Bojan
Jan 3, 2016 20:31:29 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 3, 2016 20:31:29 GMT
Every club in the world could offer 10m and every single offer would be accepted. I'm saying that the £10 million is the bench mark figure that opens the door then we have to listen and accept if no other suitors come on board! If then more come to the party and want to offer more so be it. But they won't
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Post by miggo on Jan 3, 2016 20:32:35 GMT
Every club in the world could offer 10m and every single offer would be accepted. I'm saying that the £10 million is the bench mark figure that opens the door then we have to listen and accept if no other suitors come on board! If then more come to the party and want to offer more so be it. BUT WHY WOULD THEY OFFER MORE??? Aggghhhhhh
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Post by miggo on Jan 3, 2016 20:34:37 GMT
Squeekster time for bed my friend. I cannot make this any simpler.
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Bojan
Jan 3, 2016 20:34:49 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 20:34:49 GMT
If a release clause is set to 10M, why would you offer more?
If another team offered 10M, they'd still get the chance to speak to the player.
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Jan 3, 2016 20:35:02 GMT
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Post by potterglen on Jan 3, 2016 20:35:02 GMT
Fuck off all cunts trying to buy the little matador. He is our fucking prized asset so fuck right off you fucking cunts. You tell 'em straight fella
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Bojan
Jan 3, 2016 20:37:37 GMT
Post by Squeekster on Jan 3, 2016 20:37:37 GMT
I'm saying that the £10 million is the bench mark figure that opens the door then we have to listen and accept if no other suitors come on board! If then more come to the party and want to offer more so be it. BUT WHY WOULD THEY OFFER MORE??? Aggghhhhhh Because they want the player? Suarez had a buy out clause that was met yet Liverpool still didn't sell which suggests they still have some say on the matter!
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Bojan
Jan 3, 2016 20:42:20 GMT
Post by harryburrows on Jan 3, 2016 20:42:20 GMT
BUT WHY WOULD THEY OFFER MORE??? Aggghhhhhh Because they want the player? Suarez had a buy out clause that was met yet Liverpool still didn't sell which suggests they still have some say on the matter! LET IT GO , YOU WON
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 3, 2016 20:42:38 GMT
BUT WHY WOULD THEY OFFER MORE??? Aggghhhhhh Because they want the player? Suarez had a buy out clause that was met yet Liverpool still didn't sell which suggests they still have some say on the matter! If they want him that much they can offer the 10mil and give him higher wages than anyone else, no need to waste money on the transfer fee.
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Bojan
Jan 3, 2016 20:42:54 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 3, 2016 20:42:54 GMT
BUT WHY WOULD THEY OFFER MORE??? Aggghhhhhh Because they want the player? Suarez had a buy out clause that was met yet Liverpool still didn't sell which suggests they still have some say on the matter! Liverpool renegotiated Suraez's contract once the buy out clause had been activated, we would be free to do the same with Bojan. As I said ages ago, once the buy out clause has been activated the player essentially becomes a free agent. I don't understand why you're failing to take this on board?
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Post by miggo on Jan 3, 2016 20:47:04 GMT
BUT WHY WOULD THEY OFFER MORE??? Aggghhhhhh Because they want the player? Suarez had a buy out clause that was met yet Liverpool still didn't sell which suggests they still have some say on the matter! Staggering. Please tell me you don't work in any kind of financial institution? Just because they want him doesn't mean they offer more 10m would be enough for Bojan to choose to speak to them let me spell this out. 1. IF the clause is 10m and is in his contract 2. Liverpool Arsenal Chelsea United all offer 10m all 4 offers would be accepted and Bojan would be free to speak to them 3. Barcelona get wind at last minute and because squeekster is the Financial advisor they offer 100m this is also accepted 4. Bojan decides he likes second hand stereos and decides to go to Liverpool 5. Stoke get 10m and Bojan is in his way Does this help at all ?
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jan 3, 2016 20:49:04 GMT
Is this thread for real? Some of the fucking replies, man We have to listen to these idiots giving their opinions on how we've played each week aswell
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Bojan
Jan 3, 2016 20:56:30 GMT
Post by Squeekster on Jan 3, 2016 20:56:30 GMT
Because they want the player? Suarez had a buy out clause that was met yet Liverpool still didn't sell which suggests they still have some say on the matter! Staggering. Please tell me you don't work in any kind of financial institution? Just because they want him doesn't mean they offer more 10m would be enough for Bojan to choose to speak to them let me spell this out. 1. IF the clause is 10m and is in his contract 2. Liverpool Arsenal Chelsea United all offer 10m all 4 offers would be accepted and Bojan would be free to speak to them 3. Barcelona get wind at last minute and because squeekster is the Financial advisor they offer 100m this is also accepted 4. Bojan decides he likes second hand stereos and decides to go to Liverpool 5. Stoke get 10m and Bojan is in his way Does this help at all ? It does and when I get to work tomorrow and tell my financial advisor's and contract makers that I don't want to be in a position to lose money when I could make it. If only I'd taken the South Africa trip this week instead of next I'd have been at Cape town now for the cricket although Barbados was good over Christmas.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 20:56:54 GMT
We can argue this all night but none of us really know the inside info on his contract.
We could have added that it can only be a champions league club or a Spanish club, German etc we don't know. Bojan could have added it himself to buy himself out of the contract if things didn't work out for him. We could have added it to buy him out if he got a long term injury. It could only apply to Barca, Inter Milan, Man Utd. We just don't know.
Interestingly, if the buy out clause is activated Bojan himself has to pay Stoke the money directly. Obviously the buying club gives him the cash but that cash is taxable when Bojan gets it, so for Bojan to hand Stoke 10 mill he will need considerably more from the buying club.
Does anyone know if Barca have a sell on clause ? If not the release clause could apply to them only.
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Post by miggo on Jan 3, 2016 20:57:33 GMT
haha bravo
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Post by miggo on Jan 3, 2016 21:01:28 GMT
Staggering. Please tell me you don't work in any kind of financial institution? Just because they want him doesn't mean they offer more 10m would be enough for Bojan to choose to speak to them let me spell this out. 1. IF the clause is 10m and is in his contract 2. Liverpool Arsenal Chelsea United all offer 10m all 4 offers would be accepted and Bojan would be free to speak to them 3. Barcelona get wind at last minute and because squeekster is the Financial advisor they offer 100m this is also accepted 4. Bojan decides he likes second hand stereos and decides to go to Liverpool 5. Stoke get 10m and Bojan is in his way Does this help at all ? It does and when I get to work tomorrow and tell my financial advisor's and contract makers that I don't want to be in a position to lose money when I could make it. If only I'd taken the South Africa trip this week instead of next I'd have been at Cape town now for the cricket although Barbados was good over Christmas. Jobseekers pays well then ?
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Bojan
Jan 3, 2016 21:03:21 GMT
Post by Squeekster on Jan 3, 2016 21:03:21 GMT
It does and when I get to work tomorrow and tell my financial advisor's and contract makers that I don't want to be in a position to lose money when I could make it. If only I'd taken the South Africa trip this week instead of next I'd have been at Cape town now for the cricket although Barbados was good over Christmas. Jobseekers pays well then ? From what one of my government departments tell me yes they do!
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