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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 17:02:49 GMT
Just a thought How about you get yourself nominated for the council? Why would I get involved with an organisation who have no teeth? It's a pointless, tick box exercise. Wrong.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 30, 2015 17:04:21 GMT
Why would I get involved with an organisation who have no teeth? It's a pointless, tick box exercise. Wrong. Do go on.... I don't even know why my representative is supposed to be, it's utterly pointless.
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Post by ange1 on Sept 30, 2015 17:04:55 GMT
Yes campaign is definitely the wrong word! So you would prefer no free travel at all because it doesn't benefit everyone? Your comment said the supporters too, not all the supporters. We will just have to disagree on this point .
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 30, 2015 17:07:41 GMT
Yes campaign is definitely the wrong word! So you would prefer no free travel at all because it doesn't benefit everyone? Your comment said the supporters too, not all the supporters. We will just have to disagree on this point . Why can't you answer the point about the PL? Just what else were they considering with the money? Why didn't you push for subsidised tickets across the board? Something that would benefit EVERY SINGLE AWAY FAN.
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Post by StaffordPotter on Sept 30, 2015 17:15:41 GMT
If you had a vote amongst regular away day goers on which would be the more popular choice between free travel and subsidised tickets, I have no doubt in saying that cheaper tickets would win by a landslide. So would the supporters council take this point up at the next meeting? Or will the point be ignored again?
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Post by ange1 on Sept 30, 2015 17:26:19 GMT
It is not a matter of not being able to answer. However in answer to the point about the Premier League Stoke could have done what certain other clubs did, for example is paint an area for away fans with the cash, they chose to provide free travel. The club made it very clear that subsidised tickets across the board were not an option.
Finally, I never dodge questions and your inference that I do is incorrect. Thanks for your comments.
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Post by ange1 on Sept 30, 2015 17:27:33 GMT
The point has not been ignored Staffird Potter and we will address it again.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 30, 2015 17:30:37 GMT
It is not a matter of not being able to answer. However in answer to the point about the Premier League Stoke could have done what certain other clubs did, for example is paint an area for away fans with the cash, they chose to provide free travel. The club made it very clear that subsidised tickets across the board were not an option. Finally, I never dodge questions and your inference that I do is incorrect. Thanks for your comments. Why wasn't it an option?
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Post by ange1 on Sept 30, 2015 17:39:23 GMT
Because the owners of the club said it wasn't an option. They believe by subsidising away ticket prices it allows other clubs to continue to charge high ticket prices without any thought. That was the answer given by the CEO
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Post by ryanbox360 on Sept 30, 2015 17:43:04 GMT
The only thing that I'd like bought up, is the astronomical prices at the food/drink stalls throughout the concourse. Not sure if it's Stoke pricing or contractors pricing, but I'm considering taking a second mortgage so I can have a coffee, and the young lads can have a burger and a Coke at half time.
It grates me that just because we're there, and there's no other option, they charge whatever they like.
Call me a tight bar stweward, but I pay for 4 season tickets every year, travel too and from the ground every home match, program and an Oatcake, then I have to trade one of my kidneys for a bit of food and drink.
Doubt it can be changed as it's the norm throughout the entire country for any live event.
Piddling in the wind.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 30, 2015 17:46:35 GMT
Because the owners of the club said it wasn't an option. They believe by subsidising away ticket prices it allows other clubs to continue to charge high ticket prices without any thought. That was the answer given by the CEO Thank you. What a load of cobblers.
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Post by ange1 on Sept 30, 2015 17:47:24 GMT
Ryanbox360 we will bring the matter to the club's attention again. It is a franchised operation and your comments are correct, live event, captive audience, but we will continue to try to change it. Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 17:54:35 GMT
Ryanbox360 we will bring the matter to the club's attention again. It is a franchised operation and your comments are correct, live event, captive audience, but we will continue to try to change it. Thanks As an intermediate idea ange could you suggest a voucher/offer type arrangement for certain games? I remember going to Blackburn where they did a one off free pie with a pint or vice versa. Something similar to that? Not ideal but a start?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 30, 2015 17:57:56 GMT
Ryanbox360 we will bring the matter to the club's attention again. It is a franchised operation and your comments are correct, live event, captive audience, but we will continue to try to change it. Thanks I thought you had to e-mail directly or has procedure changed?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 30, 2015 17:58:36 GMT
Ryanbox360 we will bring the matter to the club's attention again. It is a franchised operation and your comments are correct, live event, captive audience, but we will continue to try to change it. Thanks As an intermediate idea ange could you suggest a voucher/offer type arrangement for certain games? I remember going to Blackburn where they did a one off free pie with a pint or vice versa. Something similar to that? Not ideal but a start? They used to do that when we were shit. The season ticket would come with a voucher booklet and a meal deal voucher was always part of it.
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Post by ange1 on Sept 30, 2015 18:18:45 GMT
For you Bayern, the procedure is the don't call us one
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Post by ange1 on Sept 30, 2015 18:20:16 GMT
TheOnlooker. we will suggest your idea, thanks.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 30, 2015 18:21:58 GMT
As an intermediate idea ange could you suggest a voucher/offer type arrangement for certain games? I remember going to Blackburn where they did a one off free pie with a pint or vice versa. Something similar to that? Not ideal but a start? They used to do that when we were shit. The season ticket would come with a voucher booked and a meal deal voucher was always part of it. So they could load a voucher onto the existing card then now. Easy.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 30, 2015 18:29:29 GMT
For you Bayern, the procedure is the don't call us one And there we have it, the voice of the supporters council, open all for, free debate and freedom of speech. Like I said, think before making absolutely mind blowingly stupid comments. Resign?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 18:58:46 GMT
For you Bayern, the procedure is the don't call us one Like I said, think before making absolutely mind blowingly stupid comments. Have you ever considered following that advice?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 30, 2015 19:04:31 GMT
Like I said, think before making absolutely mind blowingly stupid comments. Have you ever considered following that advise? Are you in the council too? You have the same tact as the rest of them! Try to belittle even when wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 20:03:43 GMT
Regarding a fanzone... Surely this would be an profitable venture, I don't think the vans do it for free at Manchester City.
It's a great idea, and something that would add to the experience.
There have been some points on here about supporters getting the shitty end of the stick sometimes, which is right. Getting good or drink at half time is an absolute joke.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 30, 2015 21:27:17 GMT
Like I said, think before making absolutely mind blowingly stupid comments. Have you ever considered following that advise? Aren't we waiting for you to explain why bayern is wrong about the fans council..?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 30, 2015 21:32:43 GMT
Have you ever considered following that advise? Aren't we waiting for you to explain why bayern is wrong about the fans council..? I don't count apparently. Pretty appalling comments from Ange.
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Post by samba :) on Sept 30, 2015 22:03:54 GMT
For you Bayern, the procedure is the don't call us one hilarious........
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Post by ange1 on Sept 30, 2015 23:01:00 GMT
To clarify Bayern, my comment was in relation to yours referring to the direct e mail procedure, at no time have I mentioned that anyone' doesn't count, nor do I think that. The smiley face and comment was an attempt to inject a little light relief into a "debate" in which you feel it is fair to label Council members idiots.
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Post by ange1 on Sept 30, 2015 23:06:35 GMT
Angry44, as mentioned previously in this thread, the fanzone is a subject of ongoing debate with the club. The vast majority of fans think it would enhance the match day experience, and hopefully, it will happen
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Post by cheadlestokie on Sept 30, 2015 23:21:19 GMT
Ange you would like to think this forum could be used for decent debate but it has not been so for many awhile.Thanks for your efforts,but remember,just because the free away travel is favoured by many but not by Pugsley,it should really be scrapped.
So ends many threads on this board by a few simply shouting louder than others.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 23:22:19 GMT
Aren't we waiting for you to explain why bayern is wrong about the fans council..? I don't count apparently. Pretty appalling comments from Ange. Being fair though Bayern if you posted constructive criticism or well thought out ideas rather than just saying it's shit, pointless and resign you might have an argument but I'm afraid on this subject you don't.
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Post by dutchstokie on Oct 1, 2015 7:17:51 GMT
I don't count apparently. Pretty appalling comments from Ange. Being fair though Bayern if you posted constructive criticism or well thought out ideas rather than just saying it's shit, pointless and resign you might have an argument but I'm afraid on this subject you don't. And in addition to this, I would imagine its a tough enough job lobbying the powers that be at the club to change things. The way I see it is that crticism, for the sake of it, just doesn't get anybody anywhere A genuine question for bayern - did you put yourself forward to be considered for the Supporters Council or whatever it is? And don't give me the comeback of "I wouldn't want to, its shit etc etc"
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