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Post by hartzchoco on Aug 31, 2015 18:51:28 GMT
That's better, Sarge. Now once more, with feeling...... Hey it's something. Got to admit over the years I've seen the circus go from 'who this cameron?' 'He's a yank he's from MLS he's probably shite' and 'he will only ever be a league one player at best' to, 'he's a good squad player' Never seen such an important player to the squad get such instant hate. Makes Arnie's Oatcake mafia trial look like a bloody girls tea time. The best is still Bayerns eloquent yet succinct assessment of Geoff's abilities: 'He's a shit footballer.'
I've seen people get brutally punished on here for comparing one our own to fecal matter. But for some reason it's perfectly acceptable when the player on the receiving end of the scorn is Geoff.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 18:52:01 GMT
I did praise him for the peno but I also had a go because he was terribly weak for their goal (he got rolled like he wasn't there). And he came on with the sole purpose of shutting up shop and well yeah! He came on for attack and was told to bring the ball forward "quickly" in extra time and he did as a box to box midfielder. He was bought on to see the game out at 1-0......
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 18:54:01 GMT
He came on for attack and was told to bring the ball forward "quickly" in extra time and he did as a box to box midfielder. He was bought on to see the game out at 1-0...... Nope. Wrong. Brought on to win it. This isn't pessimistic Benji and Pulis style football he was brought on to seal it he was extremely forward.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 18:57:00 GMT
Hey it's something. Got to admit over the years I've seen the circus go from 'who this cameron?' 'He's a yank he's from MLS he's probably shite' and 'he will only ever be a league one player at best' to, 'he's a good squad player' Never seen such an important player to the squad get such instant hate. Makes Arnie's Oatcake mafia trial look like a bloody girls tea time. The best is still Bayerns eloquent yet succinct assessment of Geoff's abilities: 'He's a shit footballer.'
I've seen people get brutally punished on here for comparing one our own to fecal matter. But for some reason it's perfectly acceptable when the player on the receiving end of the scorn is Geoff.
Bayern is very unique in that regard, the only poster here to say everyone is shit then when they become a staple in the side and prove their worth goes quiet, well not in geoff's case because he was 100% dead wrong and it pains him. If they truly are shit and ostracized he can wriggle himself into the ' Oui' I told you so column.' Wonderful insightful knowledge he has with bouncing around on players. He'll write some cheeky off keel remark to this but he knows it's the truth lol
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 31, 2015 19:05:10 GMT
You still wouldn't of praised him. lol Even if he got us into Europe or won a trophy from a PK you'd say something like, "well he switched off in the match once before the half...: I did praise him for the peno but I also had a go because he was terribly weak for their goal (he got rolled like he wasn't there). And he came on with the sole purpose of shutting up shop and well yeah! He tried which was more than most but he had a shot, tried, got done for the goal and tried some more, took a good peno. It was hardly a good performance was it? And that's from someone who actually likes him in midfield, so shove your agenda bullshit up your arses, ta! But this just proves your agenda Bayern, you're willing to rewind three phases in the Luton goal just to find a way to blame Cameron yet you ignore the fact SJW was nowhere near the full back during the second phase when he knocked a cross in unchallenged and the goalscorer evaded challenges in the final phase. We move on to Saturday and you ignore all the build up to the cross knocked in by an untroubled Lambert and pick up on Cameron. You then ignore stats that show Cameron made twice as many defensive blocks as the next Stoke player. Agenda driven bollocks mate, sorry
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Post by hartzchoco on Aug 31, 2015 19:15:18 GMT
I did praise him for the peno but I also had a go because he was terribly weak for their goal (he got rolled like he wasn't there). And he came on with the sole purpose of shutting up shop and well yeah! But this just proves your agenda Bayern, you're willing to rewind three phases in the Luton goal just to find a way to blame Cameron yet you ignore the fact SJW was nowhere near the full back during the second phase when he knocked a cross in unchallenged and the goalscorer evaded challenges in the final phase. We move on to Saturday and you ignore all the build up to the cross knocked in by an untroubled Lambert and pick up on Cameron. You then ignore stats that show Cameron made twice as many defensive blocks as the next Stoke player. Agenda driven bollocks mate, sorry I do believe I just heard the unmistakable sound of the nail getting hit on the head.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 19:15:36 GMT
I did praise him for the peno but I also had a go because he was terribly weak for their goal (he got rolled like he wasn't there). And he came on with the sole purpose of shutting up shop and well yeah! But this just proves your agenda Bayern, you're willing to rewind three phases in the Luton goal just to find a way to blame Cameron yet you ignore the fact SJW was nowhere near the full back during the second phase when he knocked a cross in unchallenged and the goalscorer evaded challenges in the final phase. We move on to Saturday and you ignore all the build up to the cross knocked in by an untroubled Lambert and pick up on Cameron. You then ignore stats that show Cameron made twice as many defensive blocks as the next Stoke player. Agenda driven bollocks mate, sorry I really fucking hate Jon Walters....... Always have done.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 19:16:51 GMT
But this just proves your agenda Bayern, you're willing to rewind three phases in the Luton goal just to find a way to blame Cameron yet you ignore the fact SJW was nowhere near the full back during the second phase when he knocked a cross in unchallenged and the goalscorer evaded challenges in the final phase. We move on to Saturday and you ignore all the build up to the cross knocked in by an untroubled Lambert and pick up on Cameron. You then ignore stats that show Cameron made twice as many defensive blocks as the next Stoke player. Agenda driven bollocks mate, sorry I do believe I just heard the unmistakable sound of the nail getting hit on the head. But I absolutely detest Walters? I've been banging the he's shit at defending drum for years. If I thought Walters was at fault I would have said. I didn't think he was. Wilson, Wolly and Bardsley on the other hand......
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Post by fentoninbloom on Aug 31, 2015 19:19:39 GMT
Which part of "it was a fantastic ball yes" did you not understand, fella? And you wouldn't be downplaying the excellence of Shaqiri's assist just to support your pro-Geoff agenda now, would you? For what it's worth I entirely agree that the lion's share of the blame for the defeat is certainly not Geoff's. I don't have a pro-Geoff agenda, I have an anti blame agenda for any Stoke player who gets lambasted after every fucking match. It could be Arnie, Butland, Pieters, Whelan any of them and I'd step in yet here we are another hatefest and not any other stoke player gets this treatment... now does that support your witchhunt? I actually want him in midfield instead of CB but seeing as our CB's can't keep up to fitness or perform in training to dislodge Geoff. Geoff is our fastest midfield player bringing the ball forward. He's a gazelle in that regard and he's what we need in the meantime in the middle not Afellay, not Adam not Van Ginkel and he probably would be if Wilson could get fit and pass a ball in training and if Wolly could pass in training too. But here we are, the manager keeps selecting him over the others. Now would you actually support the lad filling in at CB for the squad even down to 9 men instead of fucking picking out every little aspect to the match? Probably not, only because shit fans do that. Listen pal, I've been supporting Stoke for a very long time and I can tell you that for every second Geoff is on the pitch I support him too. And what's more, I'll continue to be a part of the big Stoke family for a fucking lot longer than Geoff will. I think he's been an excellent stand-in but not so excellent that he hasn't made any errors. No one is perfect of course, but it's unfortunate that the one basic error he made on Saturday cost us a goal. Refusing to even acknowledge that your players sometimes make mistakes has the square root of fuck all to do with being a loyal fan: it's just called being deluded.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 19:21:27 GMT
Whelan stokemanusa? You lambasted him for fucking years! Rewriting history now as well as making shit up!
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 19:23:11 GMT
I don't have a pro-Geoff agenda, I have an anti blame agenda for any Stoke player who gets lambasted after every fucking match. It could be Arnie, Butland, Pieters, Whelan any of them and I'd step in yet here we are another hatefest and not any other stoke player gets this treatment... now does that support your witchhunt? I actually want him in midfield instead of CB but seeing as our CB's can't keep up to fitness or perform in training to dislodge Geoff. Geoff is our fastest midfield player bringing the ball forward. He's a gazelle in that regard and he's what we need in the meantime in the middle not Afellay, not Adam not Van Ginkel and he probably would be if Wilson could get fit and pass a ball in training and if Wolly could pass in training too. But here we are, the manager keeps selecting him over the others. Now would you actually support the lad filling in at CB for the squad even down to 9 men instead of fucking picking out every little aspect to the match? Probably not, only because shit fans do that. Listen pal, I've been supporting Stoke for a very long time and I can tell you that for every second Geoff is on the pitch I support him too. And what's more, I'll continue to be a part of the big Stoke family for a fucking lot longer than Geoff will. I think he's been an excellent stand-in but not so excellent that he hasn't made any errors. No one is perfect of course, but it's unfortunate that the one basic error he made on Saturday cost us a goal. Refusing to even acknowledge that your players sometimes make mistakes has the square root of fuck all to do with being a loyal fan: it's just called being deluded. There wasn't one error that made us concede a goal on Saturday it was three. You're the deluded one and in the minority pal.
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Post by fentoninbloom on Aug 31, 2015 19:23:53 GMT
Whelan stokemanusa? You lambasted him for fucking years! Rewriting history now as well as making shit up! Most people on here who don't understand football seem to have a beef with Whelan.
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Post by butlerstbob on Aug 31, 2015 19:24:32 GMT
You pair should stop this shit and get a room!
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 19:28:07 GMT
Whelan stokemanusa? You lambasted him for fucking years! Rewriting history now as well as making shit up! I did and I unlike you had the bollocks and gravitas to write and say, in a entirely new thread that I was wrong on Whelan. You can't even fathom doing that once because your EGO is so fucking enormous you think your fucking Sir Alex or Mourinho... That's the difference, I get behind players and make an effort to support every single one even in match threads. Like I am here, defending a full 72 hours after the fact. You sir are a broken record and hateful and have completely lost the plot in the last 9 months... I used to actually listen to your posts until you went off the deep end.
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Post by fentoninbloom on Aug 31, 2015 19:27:55 GMT
Listen pal, I've been supporting Stoke for a very long time and I can tell you that for every second Geoff is on the pitch I support him too. And what's more, I'll continue to be a part of the big Stoke family for a fucking lot longer than Geoff will. I think he's been an excellent stand-in but not so excellent that he hasn't made any errors. No one is perfect of course, but it's unfortunate that the one basic error he made on Saturday cost us a goal. Refusing to even acknowledge that your players sometimes make mistakes has the square root of fuck all to do with being a loyal fan: it's just called being deluded. There wasn't one error that made us concede a goal on Saturday it was three. You're the deluded one and in the minority pal. Would I be correct in assuming that you're going to claim Geoff wasn't responsible for any of said three errors mate, whatever they may be?
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Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 31, 2015 19:29:13 GMT
If goose had not started this thread ,Cameron mistake would not been discussed, especially after the other events from Saturday.
Cameron should have done better but I think Butland could have took the ball and player out.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 19:30:31 GMT
Whelan stokemanusa? You lambasted him for fucking years! Rewriting history now as well as making shit up! I did and I unlike you had the bollocks and gravitas to write and say, in a entirely new thread that I was wrong on Whelan. You can't even fathom doing that once because your EGO is so fucking enormous you think your fucking Sir Alex or Mourinho... That's the difference, I get behind players and make an effort to support every single one even in match threads. Like I am here, defending a full 72 hours after the fact. You sir are a broken record and hateful and have completely lost the plot in the last 9 months... I used to actually listen to your posts until you went off the deep end. I don't think I'm wrong though because he keeps making the same old mistakes! Quite clearly. I get behind them too at the game, where it matter. Here it matters not. I quite like Geoff (always have done, that's the funny part), I just don't think he's a right back or centre half.
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Post by hartzchoco on Aug 31, 2015 19:32:31 GMT
I did and I unlike you had the bollocks and gravitas to write and say, in a entirely new thread that I was wrong on Whelan. You can't even fathom doing that once because your EGO is so fucking enormous you think your fucking Sir Alex or Mourinho... That's the difference, I get behind players and make an effort to support every single one even in match threads. Like I am here, defending a full 72 hours after the fact. You sir are a broken record and hateful and have completely lost the plot in the last 9 months... I used to actually listen to your posts until you went off the deep end. I don't think I'm wrong though because he keeps making the same old mistakes! Quite clearly. I get behind them too at the game, where it matter. Here it matters not. I quite like Geoff (always have done, that's the funny part), I just don't think he's a right back or centre half. 'Shit footballer', I believe.
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Post by fentoninbloom on Aug 31, 2015 19:35:02 GMT
Whelan stokemanusa? You lambasted him for fucking years! Rewriting history now as well as making shit up! I did and I unlike you had the bollocks and gravitas to write and say, in a entirely new thread that I was wrong on Whelan. You can't even fathom doing that once because your EGO is so fucking enormous you think your fucking Sir Alex or Mourinho... That's the difference, I get behind players and make an effort to support every single one even in match threads. Like I am here, defending a full 72 hours after the fact. You sir are a broken record and hateful and have completely lost the plot in the last 9 months... I used to actually listen to your posts until you went off the deep end. I hate to break it to you mate but Geoff probably can't hear you online unless you've got dial-up internet and he's got some sort of cetacean style hearing thing going on.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 19:36:00 GMT
I don't think I'm wrong though because he keeps making the same old mistakes! Quite clearly. I get behind them too at the game, where it matter. Here it matters not. I quite like Geoff (always have done, that's the funny part), I just don't think he's a right back or centre half. 'Shit footballer', I believe. Well yeah he is but he can be useful in midfield as a tackling machine and passing it five yards to someone who can play football. Anyway going back to Walters....explain that one! I've always much preferred Geoff over Walters, or does that maybe show I don't have an agenda.....well blow me! I've been accused of having that many agendas I should be in government!
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 19:35:48 GMT
I don't think I'm wrong though because he keeps making the same old mistakes! Quite clearly. I get behind them too at the game, where it matter. Here it matters not. I quite like Geoff (always have done, that's the funny part), I just don't think he's a right back or centre half. 'Shit footballer', I believe. I'll leave Bayern's agenda driven ransacking of yet another Cameron thread with a huge
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 19:38:50 GMT
I did and I unlike you had the bollocks and gravitas to write and say, in a entirely new thread that I was wrong on Whelan. You can't even fathom doing that once because your EGO is so fucking enormous you think your fucking Sir Alex or Mourinho... That's the difference, I get behind players and make an effort to support every single one even in match threads. Like I am here, defending a full 72 hours after the fact. You sir are a broken record and hateful and have completely lost the plot in the last 9 months... I used to actually listen to your posts until you went off the deep end. I hate to break it to you mate but Geoff probably can't hear you online unless you've got dial-up internet and he's got some sort of cetacean style hearing thing going on. Actually he's sent me wonderful things on twitter and even offered to take me to a USMNT game and meet the team I'm not a USMNT supporter but I jumped at the chance when I was in NE a few season back but had to decline due to a unseen passing in my wife's family... He's a great person.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 19:38:54 GMT
I did and I unlike you had the bollocks and gravitas to write and say, in a entirely new thread that I was wrong on Whelan. You can't even fathom doing that once because your EGO is so fucking enormous you think your fucking Sir Alex or Mourinho... That's the difference, I get behind players and make an effort to support every single one even in match threads. Like I am here, defending a full 72 hours after the fact. You sir are a broken record and hateful and have completely lost the plot in the last 9 months... I used to actually listen to your posts until you went off the deep end. I hate to break it to you mate but Geoff probably can't hear you online unless you've got dial-up internet and he's got some sort of cetacean style hearing thing going on. Oh he can, he's a right sickophant! I never tweeted him any bullshit, don't see the point but he searches his name (why would you do that) and then blocks people when he doesn't like what he reads!
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 19:40:33 GMT
I hate to break it to you mate but Geoff probably can't hear you online unless you've got dial-up internet and he's got some sort of cetacean style hearing thing going on. Oh he can, he's a right sickophant! I never tweeted him any bullshit, don't see the point but he searches his name (why would you do that) and then blocks people when he doesn't like what he reads! Ohh so it's a personal beef lol he blocked you on twitter.... wahhh sound like a fucking girl.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 19:42:08 GMT
Oh he can, he's a right sickophant! I never tweeted him any bullshit, don't see the point but he searches his name (why would you do that) and then blocks people when he doesn't like what he reads! Ohh so it's a personal beef lol he blocked you on twitter.... wahhh sound like a fucking girl. I couldn't give a shit about that, I didn't notice for months! What was funny was when his agent followed me for a good year...... Wilson and Walters haven't blocked me yet! I still don't like them. And they're not American either, what wizardry is this?
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 19:43:21 GMT
Ohh so it's a personal beef lol he blocked you on twitter.... wahhh sound like a fucking girl. I couldn't give a shit about that, I didn't notice for months! What was funny was when his agent followed me for a good year...... Right.... Explains it all really. Telling a pro footballer how to play? NOBODY blocks BayernOatcake on twatter... Nobody.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 19:45:45 GMT
I couldn't give a shit about that, I didn't notice for months! What was funny was when his agent followed me for a good year...... Right.... Explains it all really. Telling a pro footballer how to play? NOBODY blocks BayernOatcake on twatter... Nobody. Read the edit! I never tweeted him anything like that. Like I said, he searches his name (which only an idiot would do on there) and saw stuff he didn't like. I never tweeted him criticism, why would I do that? I don't follow players that I don't like either, I followed Cameron.....
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Post by fentoninbloom on Aug 31, 2015 19:46:43 GMT
Let's face it lads, Geoff might be the nicest or the nastiest man on earth, it really doesn't matter. He's here to stop teams scoring....
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 19:49:21 GMT
Right.... Explains it all really. Telling a pro footballer how to play? NOBODY blocks BayernOatcake on twatter... Nobody. Read the edit! I never tweeted him anything like that. Like I said, he searches his name (which only an idiot would do on there) and saw stuff he didn't like. I never tweeted him criticism, why would I do that? I don't follow players that I don't like either, I followed Cameron..... You're a sad man Bayern, sad. You realize you're entering on a universal plane a kin to benjiaminbiscuit status over this single player, It's laughable. I love how it's bothered you into a mourinho and wenger like tantrum, get some rest mate.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 19:50:47 GMT
Read the edit! I never tweeted him anything like that. Like I said, he searches his name (which only an idiot would do on there) and saw stuff he didn't like. I never tweeted him criticism, why would I do that? I don't follow players that I don't like either, I followed Cameron..... You're a sad man Bayern, sad. You realize you're entering on a universal plane a kin to benjiaminbiscuit status over this single player, It's laughable. I love how it's bothered you into a mourinho and wenger like tantrum, get some rest mate. You're making stuff up again!
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