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Post by flinteastwood on Aug 31, 2015 14:38:03 GMT
Geoff played out of his skin and was immense on saturday and i am a huge Cameron fan but Bayern is right he is error prone with a ball over the top and if ryan was in that situation I think he would have defended that.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 14:40:58 GMT
That was a strange episode in this board's history. He was way more of a calamity than Wilson or Cameron admittedly but most people defended him. Why? I must be wired completely differently! I can only speak (sheepishly) for myself mate I just felt that (at the time) we were condemning him after far too few games. On reflection, I think we gave him too many. It was still going on after 18 months though!
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 31, 2015 14:49:52 GMT
Geoff played out of his skin and was immense on saturday and i am a huge Cameron fan but Bayern is right he is error prone with a ball over the top and if ryan was in that situation I think he would have defended that. I'm not arguing that, but bayern ranting for 3 pages on this is tiresome, he's doing a good job, albeit a little susceptible to an error
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Post by fentoninbloom on Aug 31, 2015 15:52:58 GMT
Bayern is right; Geoff switched off for the goal. It doesn't mean he wasn't very good on the whole but he did switch off at that point. Would we have conceded a goal anyway? Probably.
It's funny how people who accuse others of having a nationality bias seem to be Americans who coincidentally love Geoff.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 15:54:31 GMT
Geoff played out of his skin and was immense on saturday and i am a huge Cameron fan but Bayern is right he is error prone with a ball over the top and if ryan was in that situation I think he would have defended that. I'm not arguing that, but bayern ranting for 3 pages on this is tiresome, he's doing a good job, albeit a little susceptible to an error Not ranting, replying to people......
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Post by hartzchoco on Aug 31, 2015 16:00:00 GMT
I'm not arguing that, but bayern ranting for 3 pages on this is tiresome, he's doing a good job, albeit a little susceptible to an error Not ranting, replying to people...... ..........who are replying to your anti Geoff rants.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 31, 2015 16:01:25 GMT
I like Geoff hes an incredible athlete. For me I think hed be cracking in midfield.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 16:07:20 GMT
Not ranting, replying to people...... ..........who are replying to your anti Geoff rants. The one rant....
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 31, 2015 16:11:39 GMT
Bayern is right; Geoff switched off for the goal. It doesn't mean he wasn't very good on the whole but he did switch off at that point. Would we have conceded a goal anyway? Probably. It's funny how people who accuse others of having a nationality bias seem to be Americans who coincidentally love Geoff. Spot on mate and he did the same at Norwich
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Post by fentoninbloom on Aug 31, 2015 16:24:53 GMT
Bayern is right; Geoff switched off for the goal. It doesn't mean he wasn't very good on the whole but he did switch off at that point. Would we have conceded a goal anyway? Probably. It's funny how people who accuse others of having a nationality bias seem to be Americans who coincidentally love Geoff. Spot on mate and he did the same at Norwich Yep. He's a good utility player who's giving his all and I'd rather him than Wellshite. However, he's no Shawcross and nor is he an Nzonzi replacement, as some silly sods have suggested he could be.
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Post by hartzchoco on Aug 31, 2015 16:29:04 GMT
..........who are replying to your anti Geoff rants. The one rant.... That's a slippery slope at best, Bayern. Many on here, myself included, are actually replying to your many (weekly) anti Geoff rants.
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Post by hartzchoco on Aug 31, 2015 16:34:41 GMT
Spot on mate and he did the same at Norwich Yep. He's a good utility player who's giving his all and I'd rather him than Wellshite. However, he's no Shawcross and nor is he an Nzonzi replacement, as some silly sods have suggested he could be. Geoff is no Shawcross, agreed. I don't think I've seen anyone say that he is. Country mile off, if I'm being honest. Could he be a more than adequate Nzonzi replacement, given time to settle in the spot without having to be on the move filling holes? I think that's more of a possibility than some would suggest.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 16:35:21 GMT
That's a slippery slope at best, Bayern. Many on here, myself included, are actually replying to your many (weekly) anti Geoff rants. After his weekly error.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 16:35:18 GMT
Bayern is right; Geoff switched off for the goal. It doesn't mean he wasn't very good on the whole but he did switch off at that point. Would we have conceded a goal anyway? Probably. It's funny how people who accuse others of having a nationality bias seem to be Americans who coincidentally love Geoff. He didn't switch off... he was stride for stride with his man... as was Johnson just to his left lol The funny thing is that there are non Americans who make weekly post match threads slating the guy who gave his all for 90 mins and forget the main reason they were able to drop in ball after ball. Besides this diatribe on Geoff It's been going on for years now. Infact it's been going on for over 72 hours after the match now... It's borderline obsessive and I actually had a chance to talk to one of the team's assistant coaches. I won't say who but when I asked him about the goal today before light training he scoffed and said, "Nobody could of stopped that ball." I was born in Fegg Hayes and have lived over here for ten years and can see the hate some of this lot have towards the yank. Bayern is just bitter because he's been 100% wrong on geoff since his signing on date lol
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Post by hartzchoco on Aug 31, 2015 16:39:23 GMT
That's a slippery slope at best, Bayern. Many on here, myself included, are actually replying to your many (weekly) anti Geoff rants. After his weekly error. I knew I should've just written that response in for you. I had in typed in, verbatim.
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 31, 2015 16:44:11 GMT
I know plenty of non Americans including my self who Geoff is a great player and asset to Stoke there seems to a be a regular few on hear who could find fault with Geoff if he scored a hatrick in the champions league final for Stoke and cleared a ball off the line to sneak it 3-2 in the last minute!
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Post by fentoninbloom on Aug 31, 2015 16:44:39 GMT
Yep. He's a good utility player who's giving his all and I'd rather him than Wellshite. However, he's no Shawcross and nor is he an Nzonzi replacement, as some silly sods have suggested he could be. Geoff is no Shawcross, agreed. I don't think I've seen anyone say that he is. Country mile off, if I'm being honest. Could he be a more than adequate Nzonzi replacement, given time to settle in the spot without having to be on the move filling holes? I think that's more of a possibility than some would suggest. There's no way Geoff has the technical ability or reading of the game that Nzonzi does. He has the athleticism and the build for the role but he could never dictate tempo or distribute as consistently well as Nzonzi.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 16:49:21 GMT
I know plenty of non Americans including my self who Geoff is a great player and asset to Stoke there seems to a be a regular few on hear who could find fault with Geoff he scored a hatrick in the champions league final for Stoke and cleared a ball off the line to sneak it 3-2 in the last minute! I'm sure he'd of switched off or been at fault for the two goals like every weekly thread even if he scored a winner like his PK versus Luton.
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Post by fentoninbloom on Aug 31, 2015 16:49:51 GMT
Bayern is right; Geoff switched off for the goal. It doesn't mean he wasn't very good on the whole but he did switch off at that point. Would we have conceded a goal anyway? Probably. It's funny how people who accuse others of having a nationality bias seem to be Americans who coincidentally love Geoff. He didn't switch off... he was stride for stride with his man... as was Johnson just to his left lol The funny thing is that there are non Americans who make weekly post match threads slating the guy who gave his all for 90 mins and forget the main reason they were able to drop in ball after ball. Besides this diatribe on Geoff It's been going on for years now. Infact it's been going on for over 72 hours after the match now... It's borderline obsessive and I actually had a chance to talk to one of the team's assistant coaches. I won't say who but when I asked him about the goal today before light training he scoffed and said, "Nobody could of stopped that ball." I was born in Fegg Hayes and have lived over here for ten years and can see the hate some of this lot have towards the yank. Bayern is just bitter because he's been 100% wrong on geoff since his signing on date lol I'm certainly not slating the guy - I thought he played well on the whole - but he's not a long-term solution and the fact remains that as soon as the ball left Lambert's boot, it was clear where it was going, and it was clear which one of their players was going there to meet it. Yet still Rondon was goal-side to make the header.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 16:53:15 GMT
He didn't switch off... he was stride for stride with his man... as was Johnson just to his left lol The funny thing is that there are non Americans who make weekly post match threads slating the guy who gave his all for 90 mins and forget the main reason they were able to drop in ball after ball. Besides this diatribe on Geoff It's been going on for years now. Infact it's been going on for over 72 hours after the match now... It's borderline obsessive and I actually had a chance to talk to one of the team's assistant coaches. I won't say who but when I asked him about the goal today before light training he scoffed and said, "Nobody could of stopped that ball." I was born in Fegg Hayes and have lived over here for ten years and can see the hate some of this lot have towards the yank. Bayern is just bitter because he's been 100% wrong on geoff since his signing on date lol I'm certainly not slating the guy - I thought he played well on the whole - but he's not a long-term solution and the fact remains that as soon as the ball left Lambert's boot, it was clear where it was going, and it was clear which one of their players was going there to meet it. Yet still he was goal-side to make the header. He was goal side, the ball wasn't, it was over his head above his left shoulder and falling to where only Rondon could of gotten to it irrespective of whether it was geoff or muni or any other stoke player lol It was 3-4 yards left of the nearside left post with Butland watching... Who coincidentally walked over to Lambert after the match and talked about the ball and made hand gestures to how it made him double jab and stare flat footed at it because it was brilliant. Indefensible ball. End of.
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Post by hartzchoco on Aug 31, 2015 16:54:03 GMT
I know plenty of non Americans including my self who Geoff is a great player and asset to Stoke there seems to a be a regular few on hear who could find fault with Geoff if he scored a hatrick in the champions league final for Stoke and cleared a ball off the line to sneak it 3-2 in the last minute! Inevitably, it would be said that the only reason he had to clear a ball in the last minute to clinch the victory was due to the 2 goals conceded that were entirely his fault.
I won't say who would say this, but it rhymes with 'Bayern'.
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Post by fentoninbloom on Aug 31, 2015 16:58:12 GMT
I'm certainly not slating the guy - I thought he played well on the whole - but he's not a long-term solution and the fact remains that as soon as the ball left Lambert's boot, it was clear where it was going, and it was clear which one of their players was going there to meet it. Yet still he was goal-side to make the header. He was goal side, the ball wasn't, it was over his head above his left shoulder and falling to where only Rondon could of gotten to it irrespective of whether it was geoff or muni or any other stoke player lol It was 3-4 yards left of the nearside left post with Butland watching... Who coincidentally walked over to Lambert after the match and talked about the ball and made hand gestures to how it made him double jab and stare flat footed at it because it was brilliant. End of. Rondon was goal-side. End of.
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 31, 2015 17:00:32 GMT
He was goal side, the ball wasn't, it was over his head above his left shoulder and falling to where only Rondon could of gotten to it irrespective of whether it was geoff or muni or any other stoke player lol It was 3-4 yards left of the nearside left post with Butland watching... Who coincidentally walked over to Lambert after the match and talked about the ball and made hand gestures to how it made him double jab and stare flat footed at it because it was brilliant. End of. Rondon was goal-side. End of. With 9 against 11 end of!
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 17:01:13 GMT
He was goal side, the ball wasn't, it was over his head above his left shoulder and falling to where only Rondon could of gotten to it irrespective of whether it was geoff or muni or any other stoke player lol It was 3-4 yards left of the nearside left post with Butland watching... Who coincidentally walked over to Lambert after the match and talked about the ball and made hand gestures to how it made him double jab and stare flat footed at it because it was brilliant. End of. Rondon was goal-side. End of. No he wasn't, you're making stuff up in your creepy wooden head mate. lol He flaired that ball to the back post in between and across Geoff and Butland from 3-4 yards left of the goal post not goal side... did you even watch the match?
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Post by Miles Offside on Aug 31, 2015 17:04:12 GMT
Some more fantastic than others.
I'm a fan of Mame in general, but his contribution on Saturday was minimal.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 17:04:21 GMT
Rondon was goal-side. End of. With 9 against 11 end of! That has no bearing though! It was a back 4, he was marking his man, his man got the jump on him and scored, it was Geoff's error.
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Post by fentoninbloom on Aug 31, 2015 17:04:36 GMT
Rondon was goal-side. End of. No he wasn't, you're making stuff up in your creepy wooden head mate. lol He flaired that ball to the back post in between and across Geoff and Butland from 3-4 yards left of the goal post not goal side... did you even watch the match? Yes he was and yes I did. lol.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 17:05:38 GMT
Bayern is right; Geoff switched off for the goal. It doesn't mean he wasn't very good on the whole but he did switch off at that point. Would we have conceded a goal anyway? Probably. It's funny how people who accuse others of having a nationality bias seem to be Americans who coincidentally love Geoff. He didn't switch off... he was stride for stride with his man... as was Johnson just to his left lol The funny thing is that there are non Americans who make weekly post match threads slating the guy who gave his all for 90 mins and forget the main reason they were able to drop in ball after ball. Besides this diatribe on Geoff It's been going on for years now. Infact it's been going on for over 72 hours after the match now... It's borderline obsessive and I actually had a chance to talk to one of the team's assistant coaches. I won't say who but when I asked him about the goal today before light training he scoffed and said, "Nobody could of stopped that ball." I was born in Fegg Hayes and have lived over here for ten years and can see the hate some of this lot have towards the yank. Bayern is just bitter because he's been 100% wrong on geoff since his signing on date lol You spoke to one of the Stoke assistant manager's today? Ah you can't make this shit up.....oh.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 17:07:24 GMT
He didn't switch off... he was stride for stride with his man... as was Johnson just to his left lol The funny thing is that there are non Americans who make weekly post match threads slating the guy who gave his all for 90 mins and forget the main reason they were able to drop in ball after ball. Besides this diatribe on Geoff It's been going on for years now. Infact it's been going on for over 72 hours after the match now... It's borderline obsessive and I actually had a chance to talk to one of the team's assistant coaches. I won't say who but when I asked him about the goal today before light training he scoffed and said, "Nobody could of stopped that ball." I was born in Fegg Hayes and have lived over here for ten years and can see the hate some of this lot have towards the yank. Bayern is just bitter because he's been 100% wrong on geoff since his signing on date lol You spoke to one of the Stoke assistant manager's today? Ah you can't make this shit up.....oh. Yes I did and a physio and my cousin who works for the club in marketing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 17:08:04 GMT
You spoke to one of the Stoke assistant manager's today? Ah you can't make this shit up.....oh. Yes I did and a physio and my cousin who works for the club in marketing. Course you did.
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