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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 17:44:04 GMT
Well agree to differ but you're still wrong and are not giving credit to an amazing unopposed curling cross to which 2 stoke player's couldn't defend with only 9 men and only blaming the nearest easy target the American to which you always do, the lad gets the double barrels for others not doing their job. 1. not closing down the great cross from midfield and 2. losing their heads and us going to 9 men to cover 11 in your half. Mate I suggest you take your head out of Geoff's arse and watch it again. I suggest you take your blinders of hate off and look at the entire play and not the final act.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 17:45:07 GMT
And is Geoff's man and he has no idea where he is, who then scores. We're finally getting somewhere. Were getting somewhere because 72 hours after the match you've just acknowledged the unopposed Lambert worldly curling left to right with height and pace cross defenders in the PL call... "undefendable." Nope, a good centre back is closer to his man and knows where he is. He then gets his head on the ball.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 17:46:04 GMT
Were getting somewhere because 72 hours after the match you've just acknowledged the unopposed Lambert worldly curling left to right with height and pace cross defenders in the PL call... "undefendable." Nope, a good centre back is closer to his man and knows where he is. He then gets his head on the ball. Nope not in every case. You're grasping there. Not every ball is 100% defendable.
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Post by fentoninbloom on Aug 31, 2015 17:47:24 GMT
The dictionary definition of goal-side, from a defender's point of view, is "A position between the ball and the goal one is defending". Perhaps you could enlighten us all as to how, in either of the two pictures you posted, Geoff is goal-side of Rondon. It's quite clear who is goal side in those photos... and who glance a header across the face of the goal to which you'd call... goalside. if you cannot fathom depth of field I feel wholeheartedly sorry for you. On what planet is Geoff " between the ball and the goal he is defending" in either of those pictures? If you cannot fathom the meaning of "goal side" then I suggest you watch a different sport. If you're going to persevere with football, here's a tutorial you might find useful... us-soccer.s2s.net/todays-skill/161.html
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 31, 2015 17:47:44 GMT
Mate I suggest you take your head out of Geoff's arse and watch it again. I suggest you take your blinders of hate off and look at the entire play and not the final act. I've already said I think Cameron has played well this season but switched off in games so how does that mean I hate him?
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 17:48:42 GMT
It's quite clear who is goal side in those photos... and who glance a header across the face of the goal to which you'd call... goalside. if you cannot fathom depth of field I feel wholeheartedly sorry for you. On what planet is Geoff " between the ball and the goal he is defending" in either of those pictures? If you cannot fathom the meaning of "goal side" then I suggest you watch a different sport. If you're going to persevere with football, here's a tutorial you might find useful... us-soccer.s2s.net/todays-skill/161.htmlLOL I think you should of read and studied that more before posting lol
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 17:49:38 GMT
Nope, a good centre back is closer to his man and knows where he is. He then gets his head on the ball. Nope not in every case. You're grasping there. Not every ball is 100% defendable. I'm grasping? You've changed your story more times than Oscar Pistorious!
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 17:50:11 GMT
I suggest you take your blinders of hate off and look at the entire play and not the final act. I've already said I think Cameron has played well this season but switched off in games so how does that mean I hate him? Ohh sod it i don't know, you're just one of the major detractors after every match and in every match thread is all. You're not on Bayern's level of obsession of hating a certain stoke player obviously.
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Post by fentoninbloom on Aug 31, 2015 17:50:18 GMT
On what planet is Geoff " between the ball and the goal he is defending" in either of those pictures? If you cannot fathom the meaning of "goal side" then I suggest you watch a different sport. If you're going to persevere with football, here's a tutorial you might find useful... us-soccer.s2s.net/todays-skill/161.htmlLOL I think you should of read and studied that more before posting lol Lol are you able to explain in what sense Geoff was between the ball and the goal in either picture lol?
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 17:51:30 GMT
Nope not in every case. You're grasping there. Not every ball is 100% defendable. I'm grasping? You've changed your story more times than Oscar Pistorious! I've been 100% consistent in saying the ball was indefensible and it caught out TWO stoke players and no credit is going to Lambert's skill... You're right your story has been consistent for 3 and a half days though...
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 17:52:03 GMT
LOL I think you should of read and studied that more before posting lol Lol are you able to explain in what sense Geoff was between the ball and the goal in either picture lol? He is when it lands from being 4 feet above his head onto Rondon's head... Are you able to explain how good of a ball that was.
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Post by fentoninbloom on Aug 31, 2015 17:56:47 GMT
Lol are you able to explain in what sense Geoff was between the ball and the goal in either picture lol? He is when it lands from being 4 feet above his head onto Rondon's head... Are you able to explain how good of a ball that was. Yet Rondon heads across Geoff and the entire goal face into the far corner, so once again Geoff is NOT between the ball and the goal. It was a fantastic ball yes. Like Shaqiri's at Norwich, a great cross that nonetheless could have been better defended.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 17:58:34 GMT
I've just received several PM messages thanking me for being the main one for sticking up for a Stoke player, on a stoke message board funny that. I've been doing it for years. Cameron, Arnie, Adam, Ireland, the usual fringe targets.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 18:00:33 GMT
He is when it lands from being 4 feet above his head onto Rondon's head... Are you able to explain how good of a ball that was. Yet Rondon heads across Geoff and the entire goal face into the far corner, so once again Geoff is NOT between the ball and the goal. It was a fantastic ball yes. Like Shaqiri's at Norwich, a great cross that nonetheless could have been better defended. Wow just wow lol So Shaq's curler was similar but could've been better defended but Lambert's nah... I'd also add Butland could of punched it but could haves get messy. Afellay could of not been a tit and Adam could've been weightless.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 31, 2015 18:03:11 GMT
I've already said I think Cameron has played well this season but switched off in games so how does that mean I hate him? Ohh sod it i don't know, you're just one of the major detractors after every match and in every match thread is all. You're not on Bayern's level of obsession of hating a certain stoke player obviously. What a pathetic response,I go to games and give my opinion and if that doesn't suit you then so be it.How old are you 14?
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 18:06:19 GMT
Ohh sod it i don't know, you're just one of the major detractors after every match and in every match thread is all. You're not on Bayern's level of obsession of hating a certain stoke player obviously. What a pathetic response,I go to games and give my opinion and if that doesn't suit you then so be it.How old are you 14? You've never once praised him in a match thread. Not once.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 31, 2015 18:07:29 GMT
What a pathetic response,I go to games and give my opinion and if that doesn't suit you then so be it.How old are you 14? You've never once praised him in a match thread. Not once. I'd find that hard because I'm usually there
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 18:08:34 GMT
You've never once praised him in a match thread. Not once. I'd find that hard because I'm usually there Did you versus Luton for the game winning PK?
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 31, 2015 18:10:09 GMT
I'd find that hard because I'm usually there Did you versus Luton for the game winning PK? No I didn't but it was a FANTASTIC AMAZING penalty,is that better?
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 18:11:23 GMT
Did you versus Luton for the game winning PK? No I didn't but it was a FANTASTIC AMAZING penalty,is that better? Huh surprising that... neither did Bayern. Some stoke loyal eh? I rest my case.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 18:13:58 GMT
I've just received several PM messages thanking me for being the main one for sticking up for a Stoke player, on a stoke message board funny that. I've been doing it for years. Cameron, Arnie, Adam, Ireland, the usual fringe targets. I've just seen Santa with Lord Lucan riding Shergar.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 18:14:52 GMT
No I didn't but it was a FANTASTIC AMAZING penalty,is that better? Huh surprising that... neither did Bayern. Some stoke loyal eh? I rest my case. I wasn't on my laptop during the game!
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 18:16:00 GMT
I've just received several PM messages thanking me for being the main one for sticking up for a Stoke player, on a stoke message board funny that. I've been doing it for years. Cameron, Arnie, Adam, Ireland, the usual fringe targets. I've just seen Santa with Lord Lucan riding Shergar. Is he there with a coaching 101 handbook at 3am last night fireside for Lord Bayern, manager of Stoke in his mind.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 18:17:05 GMT
Huh surprising that... neither did Bayern. Some stoke loyal eh? I rest my case. I wasn't on my laptop during the game! You still wouldn't of praised him. lol Even if he got us into Europe or won a trophy from a PK you'd say something like, "well he switched off in the match once before the half...:
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Post by fentoninbloom on Aug 31, 2015 18:19:34 GMT
Yet Rondon heads across Geoff and the entire goal face into the far corner, so once again Geoff is NOT between the ball and the goal. It was a fantastic ball yes. Like Shaqiri's at Norwich, a great cross that nonetheless could have been better defended. Wow just wow lol So Shaq's curler was similar but could've been better defended but Lambert's nah... I'd also add Butland could of punched it but could haves get messy. Afellay could of not been a tit and Adam could've been weightless. Which part of "it was a fantastic ball yes" did you not understand, fella? And you wouldn't be downplaying the excellence of Shaqiri's assist just to support your pro-Geoff agenda now, would you? For what it's worth I entirely agree that the lion's share of the blame for the defeat is certainly not Geoff's.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 18:22:00 GMT
I wasn't on my laptop during the game! You still wouldn't of praised him. lol Even if he got us into Europe or won a trophy from a PK you'd say something like, "well he switched off in the match once before the half...: I did praise him for the peno but I also had a go because he was terribly weak for their goal (he got rolled like he wasn't there). And he came on with the sole purpose of shutting up shop and well yeah! He tried which was more than most but he had a shot, tried, got done for the goal and tried some more, took a good peno. It was hardly a good performance was it? And that's from someone who actually likes him in midfield, so shove your agenda bullshit up your arses, ta!
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 18:27:51 GMT
Wow just wow lol So Shaq's curler was similar but could've been better defended but Lambert's nah... I'd also add Butland could of punched it but could haves get messy. Afellay could of not been a tit and Adam could've been weightless. Which part of "it was a fantastic ball yes" did you not understand, fella? And you wouldn't be downplaying the excellence of Shaqiri's assist just to support your pro-Geoff agenda now, would you? For what it's worth I entirely agree that the lion's share of the blame for the defeat is certainly not Geoff's. I don't have a pro-Geoff agenda, I have an anti blame agenda for any Stoke player who gets lambasted after every fucking match. It could be Arnie, Butland, Pieters, Whelan any of them and I'd step in yet here we are another hatefest and not any other stoke player gets this treatment... now does that support your witchhunt? I actually want him in midfield instead of CB but seeing as our CB's can't keep up to fitness or perform in training to dislodge Geoff. Geoff is our fastest midfield player bringing the ball forward. He's a gazelle in that regard and he's what we need in the meantime in the middle not Afellay, not Adam not Van Ginkel and he probably would be if Wilson could get fit and pass a ball in training and if Wolly could pass in training too. But here we are, the manager keeps selecting him over the others. Now would you actually support the lad filling in at CB for the squad even down to 9 men instead of fucking picking out every little aspect to the match? Probably not, only because shit fans do that.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 18:28:51 GMT
You still wouldn't of praised him. lol Even if he got us into Europe or won a trophy from a PK you'd say something like, "well he switched off in the match once before the half...: I did praise him for the peno but I also had a go because he was terribly weak for their goal (he got rolled like he wasn't there). And he came on with the sole purpose of shutting up shop and well yeah! He tried which was more than most but he had a shot, tried, got done for the goal and tried some more, took a good peno. It was hardly a good performance was it? And that's from someone who actually likes him in midfield, so shove your agenda bullshit up your arses, ta! He came on for attack and was told to bring the ball forward "quickly" in extra time and he did as a box to box midfielder.
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Post by hartzchoco on Aug 31, 2015 18:36:25 GMT
Did you versus Luton for the game winning PK? No I didn't but it was a FANTASTIC AMAZING penalty,is that better? That's better, Sarge. Now once more, with feeling......
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 18:41:14 GMT
No I didn't but it was a FANTASTIC AMAZING penalty,is that better? That's better, Sarge. Now once more, with feeling...... Hey it's something. Got to admit over the years I've seen the circus go from 'who this cameron?' 'He's a yank he's from MLS he's probably shite' and 'he will only ever be a league one player at best' to, 'he's a good squad player' Never seen such an important player to the squad get such instant hate. Makes Arnie's Oatcake mafia trial look like a bloody girls tea time.
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