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Post by AlbertTatlock on Aug 25, 2015 21:54:28 GMT
Given 8 Bardsley 4 Woolly 6 Wilson 6 Eric 6 Sidwell 4 Walters 7 MOM Bojan 5 Arnie 4 Ireland 5 Crouch 5 Subs Geoff 6 Diouf 6 Joselu 5 Gouranga.  |
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Post by Robo10 on Aug 25, 2015 21:54:49 GMT
Given - scares me that he doesnt come for the ball but not a lot to do 6
Bardo - where did he disappear to for their goal? 6
Wolly - scares the bejesus out of me 5
Wilson - some good some bad 6
Pieters - dont know whats happened to him 5
Ireland - hit and miss all game, some sublime touches, some lazy passes. 6
Sidwell - sorry but is awful 4
Walters - great goal, works, little flair but I think we need his effort. 7
Bojan - great to see him, some nice interplay but some rusty touches. 6
Arnie - poor all game for me and I am a fan. 5
Crouch - miles off the pace 5
Subs
GCam - likes what I saw in midfield 7
Joselu - not convinced for 5.7mill 5
Diouf - wtf was that handball about? 5
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 25, 2015 21:57:09 GMT
Pains me to say but apart from Ireland, I don't think any of them were 'on it' tonight
7 for Ireland
6 for Cameron and Wollscheid
5 for the rest
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Post by alexscfc17 on Aug 25, 2015 21:57:47 GMT
Given 7
Bardsley 4
Woolly 6
Wilson 5
Eric 6
Sidwell 4
Walters 6
Bojan 5
Arnie 3
Ireland 4
Crouch 3
Subs
Geoff 7
Diouf 5
Joselu 2
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 25, 2015 21:58:18 GMT
Given 7
Bardsley 5
Woolly 6
Wilson 6
Eric 6
Sidwell 6
Walters 7 MOM
Bojan 6
Arnie 6
Ireland 6
Crouch 6
Subs
Geoff 7
Diouf 5
Joselu 5
Most players sub par. Walters, Given and Geoff stand outs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 21:58:37 GMT
Sidwell was not the worst player on that pitch.
Gave the ball away but solid enough.
Bojan was pretty shit though. Dropped too deep, looked off the pace. Pretty disappointing return
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Aug 25, 2015 21:58:55 GMT
How good do VG , Johnson and Affeley look now?
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Post by tomw on Aug 25, 2015 21:59:20 GMT
I can agree with a lot of that, it just seemed a very half-assed performance, with very few (Walters, Cameron), really showing that they wanted the win. Ireland, Bojan and Arnie all looked very rusty, especially when passing. Here's hoping for a more cohesive display at WBA.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 25, 2015 22:00:22 GMT
Some low scores for Sidwell who had one of the highest passing percentages in the shirt and had a lot of tackles in the match...  |
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 25, 2015 22:00:50 GMT
How good do VG , Johnson and Affeley look now? Not very good?? |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 25, 2015 22:02:09 GMT
Given, Ireland and Cameron 6
The rest less, some a lot less.
It was a dreadful performance.
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Aug 25, 2015 22:02:17 GMT
How good do VG , Johnson and Affeley look now? Not very good?? Incorrect. Mark and his team know the squad. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 25, 2015 22:03:33 GMT
5s all around. Different shades of 5, I guess, but if they can't be bothered to turn up against Luton, I can't be bothered to differentiate between who was less below average than who.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 25, 2015 22:03:22 GMT
Sidwell was not the worst player on that pitch. Gave the ball away but solid enough. Bojan was pretty shit unfit though. Dropped too deep, looked off the pace. Pretty disappointing return That's what the reality is. |
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 25, 2015 22:03:55 GMT
Crouch, Bardsley, Sidwell, Arnie, and Joselu when he came on were dire.
The rest were slightly better and I'll say as someone who is not a fan that Wolly seems a bit stronger this season, maybe he's starting to find his feet a bit.
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Post by bettyswallox on Aug 25, 2015 22:04:03 GMT
I thought Wollscheid had a better game than Wilson, I'd give Wolly 6.5 and Wilson 6.
I too thought Sidwell was decent, he got stuck in and didn't go hiding. Bojan looked off the pace but it's good to get some minutes into him.
I can see us being off the pace in terms of sharpness until well into September, to be honest.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2015 22:04:00 GMT
Given gets a 6.
Ireland gets a 4
The rest get a 3.
Barring Sidwell, Crouch and Joselu who get -12
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 22:03:50 GMT
Given 8
Beardsley 5
Woolly 3
Wilson 6
Peters 6
Sidwell 5
Ireland 7
Arnie 3
Crouch 3
Walters 6
Subs
Cameron 8
Joselu 7
Diouf. 6
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 25, 2015 22:04:23 GMT
How good do VG , Johnson and Affeley look now? I'd rather have Geoff and Whelan with Ireland infront of them atm tbh. |
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 25, 2015 22:06:35 GMT
Incorrect. Mark and his team know the squad. I don't see the point of any of them and fail to see how they have improved the squad, but it's early days and things can change. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 22:06:36 GMT
Sidwell was not the worst player on that pitch. Gave the ball away but solid enough. Bojan was pretty shit unfit though. Dropped too deep, looked off the pace. Pretty disappointing return That's what the reality is. I'd like to agree but you can't be unfit after 10 minutes. He kinda looked Luke he just wanted to get through the match unscathed. I'll grant him that though. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2015 22:06:39 GMT
Affelay? I look at him and think "fuck, I wish we had another winger"  |
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 25, 2015 22:07:42 GMT
Given - 5, not much to do and managed to dive out of the way of every penalty
Bardsley - 6, better from Bards
Wolly - 6, comfortable from him today, no mistakes but he just doesn't look like a pro footballer
Wilson - 6 Again comfortable with no errors
Pieters - 4, what's happened to Pieters, loses possession cheaply, loses his man - big worry for me
Walters - 5, Sky clearly think if you score you win MOM, his goal was one of the few things he did right today, lost the Luton left back for the equaliser and several more times without consequences
Sidwell - 5, a truly limited footballer
Ireland - 7, cultured and intelligent footballer who rarely loses possession
Bojan - 8, different world to everyone around him
Arni - 4, truly shocking from Arnie, awful
Crouch 4, As per Arnie
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 25, 2015 22:07:42 GMT
Given 6
Bardsley 4
Wooly 6
Wilson 6
Pieters 6
Sidwell 5
Ireland 6.5
Bojan 5.5
Walters 6
Arnie 4
Crouch 5
Subs
Joselu 4
Cameron 5.5
Diouf 5
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 25, 2015 22:08:26 GMT
Given gets a 6. Ireland gets a 4 The rest get a 3. Barring Sidwell, Crouch and Joselu who get -12 Bardsley was abominable, the worst player on the pitch. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 25, 2015 22:08:40 GMT
If Steve Sidwell plays in The Premier League for Stoke again, then Mark Hughes is not the manager I think he is. Absolutely woeful effort and absolutely gone at anywhere near the top level. please do not waste a squad place on this fucking lump.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 25, 2015 22:09:48 GMT
Given 8 Beardsley 5 Woolly 3 Wilson 6 Peters 6 Sidwell 5 Ireland 7 Arnie 3 Crouch 3 Walters 6 Subs Cameron 8 Joselu 7 Diouf. 6 Joselu 7? You just slipping in a bit of fishing mumf? He was absolutely terrible. |
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 25, 2015 22:10:04 GMT
Given 8 Beardsley 5 Woolly 3 Wilson 6 Peters 6 Sidwell 5 Ireland 7 Arnie 3 Crouch 3 Walters 6 Subs Cameron 8 Joselu 7 Diouf. 6 Come one mumf...woolly a 3.??? Not a lot wrong tonight I thought with a couple of very important interceptions |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2015 22:10:42 GMT
Given gets a 6. Ireland gets a 4 The rest get a 3. Barring Sidwell, Crouch and Joselu who get -12 Bardsley was abominable, the worst player on the pitch. I don't like to think he's a Stoke player any more, it keeps me happier. I thought Sidwell was a tad worse mind. The bloke just does nothing. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2015 22:11:18 GMT
Given 8 Beardsley 5 Woolly 3 Wilson 6 Peters 6 Sidwell 5 Ireland 7 Arnie 3 Crouch 3 Walters 6 Subs Cameron 8 Joselu 7 Diouf. 6 Come one mumf...woolly a 3.??? Not a lot wrong tonight I thought with a couple of very important interceptions Piss poor passing, not too clever for the goal along with Wilson and Bardsley and his God awful attitude shone through too. |
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