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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 17:09:21 GMT
Back in the day when we weren't in the premier league there used to be a test about how good players who played for us were, I think it got christened the Hoefkens test in honour of Carl and the basic rationale was if they were as good as some fans claimed they wouldn't be playing for Stoke, now we have Walters with 5 years premier league experience wanted by errm Norwich who are prepared to offer 2 million pounds for him, this is the same Norwich who are offering 10-12 million for Afobe at Wolves, I think that says a lot about how other clubs see Walters. Two thirds of the teams in the Prem would sign SJW if they could. Well they can. The window is still open and he's in a contract wrangle.
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 28, 2015 17:10:33 GMT
Pulis started to collect club captains, it's this that bought us success(players with a mentality to battle and lead). We are rapidly cashing in on that rock solid foundation and swapping it with a box of tricks not adding to it.
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Post by march4 on Aug 28, 2015 17:10:54 GMT
Replaced with who another fancy flick merchant to add the ever growing number of others? Weighing in the steel is asking for trouble if you are not prepared to replace it. Read the reports of the managers press conference...we weren't able to break teams down at home last year because we lacked flair players - we are changing and getting rid of the brute force approach, Affelay, Shaqiri, Johnson, Van Ginkel, Wollscheid, all signed to boost our attacking threat - get with the programme I think we need both, mate. One without the other will always leave us deficient against some teams.
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 28, 2015 17:10:58 GMT
Replaced with who another fancy flick merchant to add the ever growing number of others? Weighing in the steel is asking for trouble if you are not prepared to replace it. Read the reports of the managers press conference...we weren't able to break teams down at home last year because we lacked flair players - we are changing and getting rid of the brute force approach, Affelay, Shaqiri, Johnson, Van Ginkel, Wollscheid, all signed to boost our attacking threat - get with the programme Yeah so we empty out the graft and bring in more tricks, what a fantastic idea
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 17:14:38 GMT
Read the reports of the managers press conference...we weren't able to break teams down at home last year because we lacked flair players - we are changing and getting rid of the brute force approach, Affelay, Shaqiri, Johnson, Van Ginkel, Wollscheid, all signed to boost our attacking threat - get with the programme Yeah so we empty out the graft and bring in more tricks, what a fantastic idea I take it then that Marky Mark and the boyzz don't know what they are doing?
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Post by butlerstbob on Aug 28, 2015 17:18:51 GMT
Replaced with who another fancy flick merchant to add the ever growing number of others? Weighing in the steel is asking for trouble if you are not prepared to replace it. Read the reports of the managers press conference...we weren't able to break teams down at home last year because we lacked flair players - we are changing and getting rid of the brute force approach, Affelay, Shaqiri, Johnson, Van Ginkel, Wollscheid, all signed to boost our attacking threat - get with the programme As the saying goes fella " pointless knocking when there's nobody home!
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 28, 2015 17:19:20 GMT
Yeah so we empty out the graft and bring in more tricks, what a fantastic idea I take it then that Marky Mark and the boyzz don't know what they are doing? Do you not agree with that comment then? SCFC was built upon grit and a spirit, it's this that cemented us as a premiership club, now people think because that has established us we can just scrap it off and bring in total football. If Walters and wilson go aswell it will be interesting to see how many of these foreign flair players and footballing defenders are up for digging in when it starts getting tough and how many will hide. All good structures are built on solid foundations, or they collapse.
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 28, 2015 17:20:44 GMT
Back in the day when we weren't in the premier league there used to be a test about how good players who played for us were, I think it got christened the Hoefkens test in honour of Carl and the basic rationale was if they were as good as some fans claimed they wouldn't be playing for Stoke, now we have Walters with 5 years premier league experience wanted by errm Norwich who are prepared to offer 2 million pounds for him, this is the same Norwich who are offering 10-12 million for Afobe at Wolves, I think that says a lot about how other clubs see Walters. Two thirds of the teams in the Prem would sign SJW if they could. That Norwich bid is a bit suspicious as it has been conducted in the public domain. I would disregard it entirely. 2\3s my arse if that was even remotely true, they'd be a bidding war going on instead we have a £2m bid from Norwich.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 28, 2015 17:23:33 GMT
You lot of pro sell Walters for 3 mil should know Run that past me again It's obviously worse than I thought - Crystal Meth
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 28, 2015 17:34:19 GMT
People need to get a grip of reality, we are Stoke City football club, we have no divine right to be in this league it takes effort, character and hard work. Taking it for granted and replacing the steel with tricks will take away our biggest strength, our in your face approach, strong character and the ability to out muscle teams to win the right to play football.
there is a reason people don't like playing scfc and we're quickly losing that reason.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 28, 2015 17:38:27 GMT
Would be good to see Walters stay but him spitting his dummy out AGAIN is pretty pathetic.
Sign the deal mate or go get yourself a better one.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 28, 2015 17:38:52 GMT
People need to get a grip of reality, we are Stoke City football club, we have no divine right to be in this league it takes effort, character and hard work. Taking it for granted and replacing the steel with tricks will take away our biggest strength, our in your face approach, strong character and the ability to out muscle teams to win the right to play football. there is a reason people don't like playing scfc and we're quickly losing that reason. Utter utter guff.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 28, 2015 17:39:21 GMT
People need to get a grip of reality, we are Stoke City football club, we have no divine right to be in this league it takes effort, character and hard work. Taking it for granted and replacing the steel with tricks will take away our biggest strength, our in your face approach, strong character and the ability to out muscle teams to win the right to play football. there is a reason people don't like playing scfc and we're quickly losing that reason. Reality And you bang on about irony.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 17:40:28 GMT
People need to get a grip of reality, we are Stoke City football club, we have no divine right to be in this league it takes effort, character and hard work. Taking it for granted and replacing the steel with tricks will take away our biggest strength, our in your face approach, strong character and the ability to out muscle teams to win the right to play football. there was a reason people don't like playing scfc and we're quickly losing that reason. What you're forgetting though is that top players like Shaqiri are top players because they work their bollocks off. Shaqiri,if he replaces Walters in the team will work just as hard as Jon does but will obviously give you more on the ball. For what it's worth,I don't want us to sell Jon but you are panicking over fuck all mate.
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 28, 2015 17:41:03 GMT
People need to get a grip of reality, we are Stoke City football club, we have no divine right to be in this league it takes effort, character and hard work. Taking it for granted and replacing the steel with tricks will take away our biggest strength, our in your face approach, strong character and the ability to out muscle teams to win the right to play football. there is a reason people don't like playing scfc and we're quickly losing that reason. Utter utter guff. much like your 1-3 Stoke v Norwich prediction. we're obviously not as good as you would like to think because we didn't win by 2 goals, far from it, we were a class goalkeeping performance away from a tonking from a newly promoted team.
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 28, 2015 17:43:27 GMT
If Naaaaaarch come back with a 2.5m bid and Jon refuses to sign for another year to take him to 2017, which he appears determined to refuse, then I think Scholes may be tempted to do business, rather than lose him for nothing next summer.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 28, 2015 17:45:55 GMT
much like your 1-3 Stoke v Norwich prediction. we're obviously not as good as you would like to think because we didn't win by 2 goals, far from it, we were a class goalkeeping performance away from a tonking from a newly promoted team. Lol, pisser. Who really gives a shit about who predicted what score line in a game of PL bigger? Small minded tool.
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 28, 2015 17:48:16 GMT
much like your 1-3 Stoke v Norwich prediction. we're obviously not as good as you would like to think because we didn't win by 2 goals, far from it, we were a class goalkeeping performance away from a tonking from a newly promoted team. Lol, pisser. Who really gives a shit about who predicted what score line in a game of PL bigger? Small minded tool. Good come back mugs, who did you ask for that one your castrated dog? You thought we'd spank them 1-3 .... so back to you in your own words.."you've been proved wrong sunshine, deal with it!"
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 28, 2015 17:53:24 GMT
Lol, pisser. Who really gives a shit about who predicted what score line in a game of PL bigger? Small minded tool. Good come back mugs, who did you ask for that one your castrated dog? You thought we'd spank them 1-3 .... in your words.."you've been proved wrong sunshine, deal with it!" Ah true colours showing, happy that we didn't win 3-1 so you could have a go at me. Well done. By the way I got the Sours result spot on. For the record you are averaging .3 more points than me a week, congratulations, you must really know your onions. Berk
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 28, 2015 17:55:47 GMT
Good come back mugs, who did you ask for that one your castrated dog? You thought we'd spank them 1-3 .... in your words.."you've been proved wrong sunshine, deal with it!" Ah true colours showing, happy that we didn't win 3-1 so you could have a go at me. Well done. By the way I got the Sours result spot on. For the record you are averaging .3 more points than me a week, congratulations, you must really know your onions. Berk Which pet advised you on that retort Pugs? Your neutered cat or your speyed Hamster?
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 28, 2015 17:56:21 GMT
Good come back mugs, who did you ask for that one your castrated dog? You thought we'd spank them 1-3 .... in your words.."you've been proved wrong sunshine, deal with it!" Ah true colours showing, happy that we didn't win 3-1 so you could have a go at me. Well done. By the way I got the Sours result spot on. For the record you are averaging .3 more points than me a week, congratulations, you must really know your onions. Berk so you must know less onions?
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 28, 2015 17:56:59 GMT
So we've reject an official £2m bid now from the canaries... Interesting.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 28, 2015 17:58:35 GMT
Ah true colours showing, happy that we didn't win 3-1 so you could have a go at me. Well done. By the way I got the Sours result spot on. For the record you are averaging .3 more points than me a week, congratulations, you must really know your onions. Berk so you must know less onions? Yes mate, if that makes you happy. Btw I'm top of the people who've only made 20 predictions. Now run along to mummy and tell her how clever you are.
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 28, 2015 17:58:29 GMT
fact is mugsley you thought we'd spank norwich which clearly proves you are wearing rose tinted glasses, just out of interest if we don't win that shocking WBA side tomorrow what will your opinion be then going into the Arsenal game?
Afterall we always beat west brom and this is at home?
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 28, 2015 18:02:29 GMT
fact is mugsley you thought we'd spank norwich which clearly proves you are wearing rose tinted glasses, just out of interest if we don't win that shocking WBA side tomorrow what will your opinion be then going into the Arsenal game? Afterall we always beat west brom and this is at home? Run along chumley
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 28, 2015 18:03:42 GMT
fact is mugsley you thought we'd spank norwich which clearly proves you are wearing rose tinted glasses, just out of interest if we don't win that shocking WBA side tomorrow what will your opinion be then going into the Arsenal game? Afterall we always beat west brom and this is at home? Run along chumley as expected.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 28, 2015 18:04:31 GMT
Haven't you got form to study sonny?
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 28, 2015 18:05:54 GMT
Haven't you got form to study sonny? You're the stats man pugs, in depth research, you'll find my predictions are always one of the first in the bag. When you know, you know you know, you know?
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 28, 2015 18:08:47 GMT
And you're still on an average of 3 points a week behind me, this is despite claiming you'll piss on me because your castrated dog could outscore me, so what does that make you if you're struggling? Can't say I look down the table, I only look up. I can't say I look at the averages either, it must mean a hell of a lot to you. It's All good fun.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 18:17:49 GMT
I take it then that Marky Mark and the boyzz don't know what they are doing? Do you not agree with that comment then? SCFC was built upon grit and a spirit, it's this that cemented us as a premiership club, now people think because that has established us we can just scrap it off and bring in total football. If Walters and wilson go aswell it will be interesting to see how many of these foreign flair players and footballing defenders are up for digging in when it starts getting tough and how many will hide. All good structures are built on solid foundations, or they collapse. Excellent. Loved the gritty fightback from 2-0 to 2-2 orchestrated by the flair contingent of Arnautovic, Ireland and Diouf a couple of weeks back. Imagine if we could sign players with skill and battle? Welcome to the next level.
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