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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 4, 2015 9:40:23 GMT
SentinelSpinksy goes through some potential runners
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Post by MilanStokie on Jul 4, 2015 9:53:02 GMT
SentinelSpinksy goes through some potential runners What a rubbish list. The 2 Arsenal boys are no-goers surely. Green, Tremmel, Jones.... Really? Guzan and Heaton are the only 2 that fit the bill, but I doubt at their stage of their career are they interested in a place on Stoke's bench. Jaaskelainen or Given for me, or back up offering Sorensen 1 more year.
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 4, 2015 9:54:44 GMT
SentinelSpinksy goes through some potential runners What a rubbish list. The 2 Arsenal boys are no-goers surely. Green, Tremmel, Jones.... Really? Guzan and Heaton are the only 2 that fit the bill, but I doubt at their stage of their career are they interested in a place on Stoke's bench. Jaaskelainen or Given for me, or back up offering Sorensen 1 more year. Sorenson has retired.
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Post by MilanStokie on Jul 4, 2015 9:57:15 GMT
What a rubbish list. The 2 Arsenal boys are no-goers surely. Green, Tremmel, Jones.... Really? Guzan and Heaton are the only 2 that fit the bill, but I doubt at their stage of their career are they interested in a place on Stoke's bench. Jaaskelainen or Given for me, or back up offering Sorensen 1 more year. Sorenson has retired. I didn't think he officially had? And it was presumption based on his charity ride he is currently doing?
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Post by vahl on Jul 4, 2015 10:14:20 GMT
I like Szczesny but you're left thinking, at 25 years old, where would Butland ever really fit in with that signing?
Butland has to be thrown in for me. I'm starting to think we might need to re-sign Sorro for 6-12 months.
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Post by feynmann2 on Jul 4, 2015 10:19:39 GMT
Marshall from Cardiff?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 4, 2015 10:28:38 GMT
It's always hard to guess, but he seems a bit beyond what you could attract as a No.2? Especially if we're on a budget in this area Still being linked with quite big movesfrom the article... They want a keeper who is experienced, preferably in the Premier League, and they haven't budgeted a fortune for him.
They also want a player who is good enough to put pressure on Butland, on the one hand, but who is also content to play second fiddle for possibly the entire season on the other.
He'll certainly have a lot of bench warming ahead of him if, as Mark Hughes hopes, Butland proves himself a worthy number one and long-term successor to Begovic.
Doesn't exactly sound an easy task, does it?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2015 10:29:55 GMT
Sorensen hasn't retired.
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Post by stokie1997 on Jul 4, 2015 10:31:55 GMT
Steve harper? Free from Hull
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 4, 2015 10:34:34 GMT
Will consider himself (and probably IS) far too good to be sitting on Stoke's bench. Is Sorro still up to it? Those that matter at the club will know that but, if he is, I'd give him another 12 months giving us time to see how things pan out.
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 4, 2015 10:57:14 GMT
I didn't think he officially had? And it was presumption based on his charity ride he is currently doing? He has retired,the interview is on Stoke Player.
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Post by feynmann2 on Jul 4, 2015 11:27:23 GMT
It's always hard to guess, but he seems a bit beyond what you could attract as a No.2? Especially if we're on a budget in this area Still being linked with quite big movesfrom the article... They want a keeper who is experienced, preferably in the Premier League, and they haven't budgeted a fortune for him.
They also want a player who is good enough to put pressure on Butland, on the one hand, but who is also content to play second fiddle for possibly the entire season on the other.
He'll certainly have a lot of bench warming ahead of him if, as Mark Hughes hopes, Butland proves himself a worthy number one and long-term successor to Begovic.
Doesn't exactly sound an easy task, does it? No it doesn't - with regard to Marshall, why would he not come to see if he could replace Butland as number 1 - we have bee very lucky to have a run of 6 years where we have always had 2 quality keepers, Bego leaving shouldn't mean we accept a compromise...get in a quality keeper and let them fight it out for the number 1 shirt!
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 4, 2015 11:33:18 GMT
It's always hard to guess, but he seems a bit beyond what you could attract as a No.2? Especially if we're on a budget in this area Still being linked with quite big movesfrom the article... They want a keeper who is experienced, preferably in the Premier League, and they haven't budgeted a fortune for him.
They also want a player who is good enough to put pressure on Butland, on the one hand, but who is also content to play second fiddle for possibly the entire season on the other.
He'll certainly have a lot of bench warming ahead of him if, as Mark Hughes hopes, Butland proves himself a worthy number one and long-term successor to Begovic.
Doesn't exactly sound an easy task, does it? No it doesn't - with regard to Marshall, why would he not come to see if he could replace Butland as number 1 - we have bee very lucky to have a run of 6 years where we have always had 2 quality keepers, Bego leaving shouldn't mean we accept a compromise...get in a quality keeper and let them fight it out for the number 1 shirt! We were very lucky with Bego since we actually went to them for David James initially. Bego was off to Spurs as their number two (having been No 2 at Portsmouth). He changed his mind and came to Stoke as he expected to be number ONE at Stoke. When that didn't happen, he threw a strop and wanted to leave. Marshall would go to one of the top 5/6 clubs as number two, hoping to force his way into the number one spot but he certainly won't come to STOKE to be number two to Butland. And there's another factor here........... Sign the likes of Marshall and you will have a very unhappy Butland on your hands.
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 4, 2015 11:37:55 GMT
Myhil is still my choice
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Post by feynmann2 on Jul 4, 2015 11:46:31 GMT
No it doesn't - with regard to Marshall, why would he not come to see if he could replace Butland as number 1 - we have bee very lucky to have a run of 6 years where we have always had 2 quality keepers, Bego leaving shouldn't mean we accept a compromise...get in a quality keeper and let them fight it out for the number 1 shirt! We were very lucky with Bego since we actually went to them for David James initially. Bego was off to Spurs as their number two (having been No 2 at Portsmouth). He changed his mind and came to Stoke as he expected to be number ONE at Stoke. When that didn't happen, he threw a strop and wanted to leave. Marshall would go to one of the top 5/6 clubs as number two, hoping to force his way into the number one spot but he certainly won't come to STOKE to be number two to Butland. And there's another factor here........... Sign the likes of Marshall and you will have a very unhappy Butland on your hands. Half a dozen admittedly relatively well played games does not guarantee you a starting berth at a club with top 6 ambitions, best he can hope for is to start with the shirt...even the piece above says we want someone to push him....
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 4, 2015 11:57:57 GMT
We were very lucky with Bego since we actually went to them for David James initially. Bego was off to Spurs as their number two (having been No 2 at Portsmouth). He changed his mind and came to Stoke as he expected to be number ONE at Stoke. When that didn't happen, he threw a strop and wanted to leave. Marshall would go to one of the top 5/6 clubs as number two, hoping to force his way into the number one spot but he certainly won't come to STOKE to be number two to Butland. And there's another factor here........... Sign the likes of Marshall and you will have a very unhappy Butland on your hands. Half a dozen admittedly relatively well played games does not guarantee you a starting berth at a club with top 6 ambitions, best he can hope for is to start with the shirt...even the piece above says we want someone to push him.... It doesn't mate and, you're right we do need our number two to 'push' the number one. However, Butland has been here quite a while now and has waited for his opportunity to claim the number one slot. IF Bego goes, he will expect (and SHOULD) be given that opportunity so, at least initially, any new keeper coming to Stoke will expect to be No 2. THAT is the problem in that the likes of Marshall will not be content to come here and have to oust the England U21 captain. He's an established first team keeper who has impressed a great many and I'm certain it would be incredibly difficult to get him here to be No2. We almost certainly have to go for a very experienced (probably 'oldish') keeper who is content to play second fiddle initially but who is capable of replacing Butland when he gets the chance. Other than that we'd probably have to go for inexperienced 'potential' as we did with Bego. Either way, I think we probably have to rule out current No1 keepers that have already made a big impact. There is also. of course another factor to consider...... I don't think Stoke want to throw too much money at the GK situation and Marshall will (IMO) be more money than Stoke want to spend in this area.
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Post by feynmann2 on Jul 4, 2015 12:17:11 GMT
Half a dozen admittedly relatively well played games does not guarantee you a starting berth at a club with top 6 ambitions, best he can hope for is to start with the shirt...even the piece above says we want someone to push him.... It doesn't mate and, you're right we do need our number two to 'push' the number one. However, Butland has been here quite a while now and has waited for his opportunity to claim the number one slot. IF Bego goes, he will expect (and SHOULD) be given that opportunity so, at least initially, any new keeper coming to Stoke will expect to be No 2. THAT is the problem in that the likes of Marshall will not be content to come here and have to oust the England U21 captain. He's an established first team keeper who has impressed a great many and I'm certain it would be incredibly difficult to get him here to be No2. We almost certainly have to go for a very experienced (probably 'oldish') keeper who is content to play second fiddle initially but who is capable of replacing Butland when he gets the chance. Other than that we'd probably have to go for inexperienced 'potential' as we did with Bego. Either way, I think we probably have to rule out current No1 keepers that have already made a big impact. There is also. of course another factor to consider...... I don't think Stoke want to throw too much money at the GK situation and Marshall will (IMO) be more money than Stoke want to spend in this area. Not sure who these older keepers are that allow us to maintain the collective quality we currently have - that Sentinel article is talking about the pole from Arsenal being a good option..he's 25! Despite speculation, Marshall is facing another season in the Championship with the shambles that is Cardiff - that or the opportunity to fight for the number 1 spot at a top 10 premiership club seems like a no brainer to me...IF Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal come in for him then it will be another one we miss out on but for me its certainly worth asking the question..as for money, I guess it depends on the salaries we end up spending on any next level players we manage to convince to take the risk...If we are trying to sign Sergi Roberto, Kono & Shaqiri then I guess the purse strings have been loosened to a degree - A keeper is probably a target for later in the window for me given we still have Bego as it stands
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Post by burberrybassist on Jul 4, 2015 14:07:57 GMT
Myhill or Heaton for me please Stoke
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 15:02:46 GMT
I'd have thought it'd have been Haugaard as backup with Bachmann (who I seem to remember is very highly rated) as the 3rd choice
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 6, 2015 14:05:02 GMT
Danish paper says Sorensen is possibly off to Melbourne City for a year
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 14:59:00 GMT
What about Brad Jones from the bin dippers - available on a free I think ?
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Post by interestedobserver on Jul 6, 2015 15:14:59 GMT
IIRC Cameron has played for us at centre-half, full back, midfielder, wing and as the withdrawn striker. Might as well add GK to his resume.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 6, 2015 17:44:57 GMT
IIRC Cameron has played for us at centre-half, full back, midfielder, wing and as the withdrawn striker. Might as well add GK to his resume. Can't do any worse than he already does, Im in.
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Post by LphPotter on Jul 6, 2015 17:50:03 GMT
IIRC Cameron has played for us at centre-half, full back, midfielder, wing and as the withdrawn striker. Might as well add GK to his resume. Can't do any worse than he already does, Im in. Harsh, he's not as bad as some make out, in fact sometimes he is pretty good. I'm not saying we don't need a RB btw, but he can be very decent cover for rb, cm and cb.
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Post by LphPotter on Jul 6, 2015 21:00:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 21:12:18 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 6, 2015 21:13:09 GMT
He was very highly-rated a couple of years ago, wasn't he? His reputation seems to have fallen off a cliff. If we're after him, presumably the budget for this position is very tight!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 6, 2015 21:15:44 GMT
Can think of worse options. Hopefully he won't be needed but if he is at least he's got some experience.
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Post by feynmann2 on Jul 6, 2015 21:18:45 GMT
He was very highly-rated a couple of years ago, wasn't he? His reputation seems to have fallen off a cliff. If we're after him, presumably the budget for this position is very tight! Incredibly disappointing if this is the standard we are going to accept as back up, seems to have barely played for the last season and couldn't earn a move to Brighton...
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 6, 2015 21:31:31 GMT
I'd have thought it'd have been Haugaard as backup with Bachmann (who I seem to remember is very highly rated) as the 3rd choice So between our three squad 'keepers, a maximum age of 23 and a total of six Premier League appearances? Absolute suicide.
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