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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 30, 2015 17:48:31 GMT
Bego is almost out of the door so who's going to be Butland's back up?
Haugaard? Hope not tbh Bachmann? Flapper Green? Bollocks
Then who?
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Post by jeycov on Jun 30, 2015 17:49:19 GMT
Guzan ?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 30, 2015 17:50:03 GMT
Interesting one. Haven't heard any serious names have we?
But there'll have to be one because Haugaard certainly won't be the No.2
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 30, 2015 17:53:13 GMT
I really like Guzan, think he'd be excellent here, I'd play him over Butland tbh.
And no we haven't FM and you'd hope so, he seems like a project.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jun 30, 2015 18:09:15 GMT
I really like Guzan, think he'd be excellent here, I'd play him over Butland tbh. And no we haven't FM and you'd hope so, he seems like a project. guzan has been pretty good for USA when I've seen him. But he was shit last season for Villa. I'd be happier with Jack as the number one with a backup on a lower wage than Guzan would demand.
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Post by Gods on Jun 30, 2015 18:12:01 GMT
If Bego does leave I can't think of any probable scenario in which the goal keeping department is not weaker next year.
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Post by jeycov on Jun 30, 2015 18:19:07 GMT
I really like Guzan, think he'd be excellent here, I'd play him over Butland tbh. And no we haven't FM and you'd hope so, he seems like a project. guzan has been pretty good for USA when I've seen him. But he was shit last season for Villa. I'd be happier with Jack as the number one with a backup on a lower wage than Guzan would demand. Guzman as back up yes. I think he qualifies as a home grown player and is out of contract. Bego departing isn't a shock to our Gk team, they will have been doing their homework
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Post by salopstick on Jun 30, 2015 18:23:44 GMT
I'd give sorro another one year as no3 just to help jack
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Post by mondeoman on Jun 30, 2015 18:27:21 GMT
I'd give sorro another one year as no3 just to help jack Excellent idea !
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Post by mightyone on Jun 30, 2015 18:27:23 GMT
Sorry pal and don't want to start a big thread or fall out but in my own opinion Rob green wouldn't be a bad back up to have sat on the bench and this is my reason of thinking. In jack Butland I 100% trust and it's about time and I think stoke have done a magnificent job in nurturing him to this level and he's still very young but there is a little but coming and its this : like I said I trust him 100% but if we get a bad run and his confidence takes a bit of a knock then we need a experienced keeper to step in and maybe Rob green would be willing to sit on our bench? Don't forget he was called back up to the England squad recently. Well that's my theory.
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Post by mightyone on Jun 30, 2015 18:30:10 GMT
Sorry jaycov that reply was for bayern.
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Post by jeycov on Jun 30, 2015 18:31:54 GMT
Sorry pal and don't want to start a big thread or fall out but in my own opinion Rob green wouldn't be a bad back up to have sat on the bench and this is my reason of thinking. In jack Butland I 100% trust and it's about time and I think stoke have done a magnificent job in nurturing him to this level and he's still very young but there is a little but coming and its this : like I said I trust him 100% but if we get a bad run and his confidence takes a bit of a knock then we need a experienced keeper to step in and maybe Rob green would be willing to sit on our bench? Don't forget he was called back up to the England squad recently. Well that's my theory. I agree green would be a better option, just read a link to Guzan earlier on. Did MH work with green at QPR?
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Post by miggo on Jun 30, 2015 18:34:51 GMT
Why won't haugaard be no 2 I assume that's why we have brought him?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 30, 2015 18:42:48 GMT
Why won't haugaard be no 2 I assume that's why we have brought him? Just can't see it. Your No.2 keeper is a broken leg away from being your season-long No.1 - and nothing about this guy's career would make you comfortable with that scenario. He#s only played 30-odd pro games and a much smaller club with not even a tenth of our resources weren't happy to trust him as their No.1 at this stage of his development it seems? He may have potential - but, at 23, he's no spring chicken and he's not battle-hardened as he's barely got any professional games under his belt. Suppose the problem with the No.2 role is also that he can't be loaned out to gain experience, but is effectively chained to the subs bench every week There's an argument that says your No.2 has got to be a mature keeper who's ready to be chucked in, not someone who needs games to grow. At least Butland had got well over 100 games under his belt. If he's 3rd choice, that's probably totally different as he's far enough from the coal face to grow and see what he turns into with loan spells and time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 18:43:54 GMT
Courtois?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 30, 2015 18:45:42 GMT
Rob Green is a calamity, always has been, always will be.
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Post by liathroid on Jun 30, 2015 18:49:19 GMT
a lot of worrying over nothing
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 30, 2015 18:50:22 GMT
Who's worrying? We need a back up!
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Post by liathroid on Jun 30, 2015 18:51:42 GMT
back up me bollix
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Post by lordb on Jun 30, 2015 18:52:10 GMT
Rob Green is a calamity, always has been, always will be. He's had his howlers but he's not a liability. Excellent keeper.
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Post by miggo on Jun 30, 2015 18:55:04 GMT
Why won't haugaard be no 2 I assume that's why we have brought him? Just can't see it. Your No.2 keeper is a broken leg away from being your season-long No.1 - and nothing about this guy's career would make you comfortable with that scenario. He#s only played 30-odd pro games and a much smaller club with not even a tenth of our resources weren't happy to trust him as their No.1 at this stage of his development it seems? He may have potential - but, at 23, he's no spring chicken and he's not battle-hardened as he's barely got any professional games under his belt. Suppose the problem with the No.2 role is also that he can't be loaned out to gain experience, but is effectively chained to the subs bench every week There's an argument that says your No.2 has got to be a mature keeper who's ready to be chucked in, not someone who needs games to grow. At least Butland had got well over 100 games under his belt. If he's 3rd choice, that's probably totally different as he's far enough from the coal face to grow and see what he turns into with loan spells and time. I just can't see a scenario where this guy has left a club as second choice to be third choice here add to that we have to promising up and coming keepers who'd have been hoping to be third choice themselves.
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 30, 2015 18:55:43 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 30, 2015 18:56:28 GMT
Rob Green is a calamity, always has been, always will be. He's had his howlers but he's not a liability. Excellent keeper. He has 4/5 a season, every season, that's not an excellent 'keeper.
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 30, 2015 18:57:24 GMT
Rob Green is a calamity, always has been, always will be. Not as much of a worry as having sorrenson on the bench
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Post by liathroid on Jun 30, 2015 18:58:25 GMT
He's had his howlers but he's not a liability. Excellent keeper. He has 4/5 a season, every season, that's not an excellent 'keeper. most keepers have the same ,but some play with better clubs who can make up for it
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 30, 2015 18:59:57 GMT
Just can't see it. Your No.2 keeper is a broken leg away from being your season-long No.1 - and nothing about this guy's career would make you comfortable with that scenario. He#s only played 30-odd pro games and a much smaller club with not even a tenth of our resources weren't happy to trust him as their No.1 at this stage of his development it seems? He may have potential - but, at 23, he's no spring chicken and he's not battle-hardened as he's barely got any professional games under his belt. Suppose the problem with the No.2 role is also that he can't be loaned out to gain experience, but is effectively chained to the subs bench every week There's an argument that says your No.2 has got to be a mature keeper who's ready to be chucked in, not someone who needs games to grow. At least Butland had got well over 100 games under his belt. If he's 3rd choice, that's probably totally different as he's far enough from the coal face to grow and see what he turns into with loan spells and time. I just can't see a scenario where this guy has left a club as second choice to be third choice here add to that we have to promising up and coming keepers who'd have been hoping to be third choice themselves. Suppose time will tell. But being the sub keeper in the Danish league must be pretty soul-destroying He may have jumped at a whopping wage rise and a long-term contract at a Premier club, even if it meant being No.3. I just can't believe the management would be happy to chuck him in at the deep end. I'm expecting another senior keeper to come in as a back-up - but could be wrong (I normally am!)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 19:00:48 GMT
Boaz Myhill is available on a free.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 30, 2015 19:05:12 GMT
Bachmann is nowhere near good enough to be relied upon yet.
Ditto Eve.
It's fair to say Hughes' record with signing 'keeper is "interesting".
Jason Brown Gunnar Nielsen (twice) Shay Given (but to replace Hart) Stuart Taylor Rob Green Julio Cesar
None of them are good signings imo but I would take Given now.
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Post by feynmann2 on Jun 30, 2015 19:12:17 GMT
David Marshall?
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Post by lordb on Jun 30, 2015 19:13:44 GMT
He's had his howlers but he's not a liability. Excellent keeper. He has 4/5 a season, every season, that's not an excellent 'keeper. Like Begovic?
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