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Post by Maccca100 on May 15, 2015 11:15:12 GMT
Obviously as a Spurs fan you can tell me to mind my own business but here is my two penn'orth. Stoke fans have always struck me as being a top crowd. I dont just mean when i have seen them at Spurs or other London grounds but generally. Steve Gerrard has been an incredible player in my book. We all know Liverpool fans are the most cringeworthy maudlin bunch of twats you'll ever meet but it would really reflect well on Stoke to give him a decent farewell. Mind your own business
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Post by werrington on May 15, 2015 11:19:23 GMT
If it was a Stoke player going to Anfield in similar circumstances they would give him a standing ovation when he leaves the field and you lot would be fucking rabid if they didn't
He's done absolutely nothing to SCFC to justify the hatred being vented towards him by sections on here and indeed just ask Ryan Shawcross who was the player to take him to one side after he got called up for England on the day of the Ramsey incident
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Post by britvic72 on May 15, 2015 11:26:47 GMT
To be fair, I don't see any reason for us to "detest" Steven Gerrard - he hasn't exactly wronged us, or England! He's certainly no John Terry!! Perhaps a healthy balance of good old fashioned ribbing and a little respect would be a good idea - say 90:10 ratio? Unfortunately the years of the Sky Sports Gerrard jizzfest has made it difficult for me to feel anything but boredom for this whole departure.. I'll still go for the original suggestion of 89:1 ratio during the game as it seems fitting
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Post by murphthesurf on May 15, 2015 11:27:11 GMT
As I begin to write this I can almost hear the howls of derision from certain sections of our supporter base, however I feel pretty strongly about this so I am going to make a suggestion for the Liverpool game. Be interested in your thoughts. As we know, Steven Gerrard is bringing the curtain down on his career in English football at the Britannia Stadium. Gerrard has been, in my opinion, a fantastic asset not only for his club, for also for his country. Never once eschewing a call up or putting himself or his body first, his England career can be rightly considered in comparison with anyone who has worn the Three Lions. His 114 caps for his country is testament to his enduring capability in the middle of midfield for England, and in my adult lifetime of watching the game only Paul Scholes can be considered his equal. But in my opinion, Gerrard stands for more than that, and that is why it is my hope that Stoke fans will put aside personal pettiness and recognise his other attributes. As Stoke City supporters, there are few attributes that we value more than loyalty, and in this regard Gerrard stands completely alone. He has, on far more occasions than Liverpool Football Club should have found themselves, been the single glimmer of light, the only catalyst for the moderate success the club has enjoyed (relative to it's standing) over the past 20 years. In 2005, he single handedly dragged them back into a Champions League Final they had no right to be in, based solely on his work ethic and appetite to succeed. Gerrard had ample opportunity to move during the 2000's, move to bigger clubs, better clubs, clubs that could (shudder…) "match his ambition". He didn't. He stayed loyal and faithful to the city he was raised in. And this, more than anything else, makes him worthy of particular praise. So, to my suggestion. I'm not asking us to sing "you'll never walk alone", or "there's only one Steven Gerrard". What I feel is the right thing to do is a minute's applause in the 8th minute to acknowledge and pay respect to the loyalty and career of an exceptional sportsman. Everywhere he's been this year, they've sung that fucking song about him falling over. Everywhere. I have been brought up on the belief that Stoke fans are different from the rest, cut from a different cloth. We are supporters who recognise and reward achievement, but more importantly character. Gerrard has shown it in spades and, in the eyes of the world, we have a unique opportunity to respect that, and show to a watching world what separates Stoke City from the rest of the flock.
Thanks for reading. Wholeheartedly agree with every word of that. Well said, Vestan. It took guts. Too many journalists+ managers and fans of other clubs rush to permanently crow that we are cheap, nasty and classless. Here we have a golden opportunity to demonstrate the very opposite. It's a chance we shouldn't waste.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 15, 2015 11:28:02 GMT
What!? Werrington is on here fighting the Liverpool cause? Well I never. I'm going give him more abuse than I was planning on doing just to piss you off
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Post by murphthesurf on May 15, 2015 11:28:29 GMT
If it was a Stoke player going to Anfield in similar circumstances they would give him a standing ovation when he leaves the field and you lot would be fucking rabid if they didn't He's done absolutely nothing to SCFC to justify the hatred being vented towards him by sections on here and indeed just ask Ryan Shawcross who was the player to take him to one side after he got called up for England on the day of the Ramsey incident 100%.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 15, 2015 11:30:39 GMT
As someone said, he's about as inoffensive and down-to-earth as a £150k-a-week modern-day superstar can get.
As over-the-top as the scouse sentimentality and media tributes will be, I don't think there's anything to be gained by trying to make Gerrard-baiting a thing on the day.
No need for us to join in with the hysteria, but no need to be utter twats either
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Post by parttimelurker on May 15, 2015 11:31:31 GMT
He's done nothing for Stoke, and his reaction to the Chelsea fans applause was a disgrace, so it's a no from me.
I find it sad that people are making such a big deal out of Gerrard when players of our own are leaving.
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Post by shrewspotter on May 15, 2015 11:34:21 GMT
To Be honest I doubt he will play anyway, they will have cemented 5th (or whatever they were after) and I just cannot see him turning out at all, after all his send off will be tomorrow surely
We should make the day about Wilko and Tommy S
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Post by hartzchoco on May 15, 2015 11:58:27 GMT
The only reason he 'Stayed loyal to his city' is because his family was threatened by gangsters. Otherwise he would have been at Chelsea before you could say 'Greedy scouse twat' Flattered to deceive for his country and looked lost when Alonso left. Good player, but overhyped! Forgive me if I don't join the jizzfest H It shocks me that there are still people out there that believe that 'gangster' shit.
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Post by JudgeMental on May 15, 2015 12:00:01 GMT
A lap of honour would be a bit cheeky really. It's at another club's ground and our own players will be waiting to do their own end of season lap. A polite stroll to the centre circle and applauding all 4 sides of the ground before heading to the tunnel would be OK in most people's eyes I guess. "The big farewell photo-op" is tomorrow at Anfield really. Sorry pal I meant Palacios. LOL. My mis-read.
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Post by hartzchoco on May 15, 2015 12:02:51 GMT
He's done nothing for Stoke, and his reaction to the Chelsea fans applause was a disgrace, so it's a no from me. I find it sad that people are making such a big deal out of Gerrard when players of our own are leaving. Chelski fans kicked the shit out of him, non-stop, for 90 minutes. Then they gave him some applause at the end. Chelski fans are twats, and Gerrards reaction to them was more than warranted.
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Post by parttimelurker on May 15, 2015 12:19:30 GMT
He's done nothing for Stoke, and his reaction to the Chelsea fans applause was a disgrace, so it's a no from me. I find it sad that people are making such a big deal out of Gerrard when players of our own are leaving. Chelski fans kicked the shit out of him, non-stop, for 90 minutes. Then they gave him some applause at the end. Chelski fans are twats, and Gerrards reaction to them was more than warranted. Some did some didn't, exactly the same as would \ will happen at the Brit. I would prefer to do nothing and celebrate our own players.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 15, 2015 12:47:05 GMT
Sick to death of hearing about Gerrard, he is going abroad to earn a fortune FFS not retiring to some home for ex footballers. If Aliens invaded Earth tomorrow, you can bet Sky Sports would still be spouting on about the bin dipper playing his last game at Anfield.
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Post by lordb on May 15, 2015 12:51:12 GMT
Can see both points of view
how about just ignoring him?
no abuse,no applause?
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Post by redwhite on May 15, 2015 13:00:35 GMT
If Gerrard is targeted with abuse surpassing what is usually given to opposition players, we as a fan base will look embarrassingly small time. It will stink of jealousy and a lack of brain cells.
Neither team will have anything to play for and Gerrard is a completely inoffensive player. There is no excuse to target him, and I hope the majority will clap him off.
Anyone planning on giving him special abuse purely because it's his last game, it won't look funny, it won't look 'ard, it will look sad, it will look stubborn, it will look small-time, and it will paint the picture that all we get a buzz from in football is being complete cocks.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on May 15, 2015 13:03:39 GMT
The only reason he 'Stayed loyal to his city' is because his family was threatened by gangsters. Otherwise he would have been at Chelsea before you could say 'Greedy scouse twat' Flattered to deceive for his country and looked lost when Alonso left. Good player, but overhyped! Forgive me if I don't join the jizzfest H It shocks me that there are still people out there that believe that 'gangster' shit.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 15, 2015 13:07:35 GMT
Brendan Rodgers is on the B.B.C. website saying he might be back at Liverpool. All those scousers paying £2,000 a ticket for his 'last' match at Anfield. Anywhere else this would be regarded as fraud?!
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Post by jaybee on May 15, 2015 13:16:40 GMT
How about a rapturous booing on the 8th minute?
A sort of compromise between respect and dislike!
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 13:19:12 GMT
Brendan Rodgers is on the B.B.C. website saying he might be back at Liverpool. All those scousers paying £2,000 a ticket for his 'last' match at Anfield. Anywhere else this would be regarded as fraud?! it would only be fraud if it was liverpool selling the tickets for 2k though...they're not,it's private sellers so technically not 100% legal in the first place as you're not supposed to resell tickets.....think they'd have a tough time getting a fraud charge to stick if someone complained for paying too much for an illegal ticket That's exactly the way it would be seen in any industry as well
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 15, 2015 13:29:15 GMT
Brendan Rodgers is on the B.B.C. website saying he might be back at Liverpool. All those scousers paying £2,000 a ticket for his 'last' match at Anfield. Anywhere else this would be regarded as fraud?! it would only be fraud if it was liverpool selling the tickets for 2k though...they're not,it's private sellers so technically not 100% legal in the first place as you're not supposed to resell tickets.....think they'd have a tough time getting a fraud charge to stick if someone complained for paying too much for an illegal ticket That's exactly the way it would be seen in any industry as well Yes, I know. But do these scousers think they had been born under a gooseberry bush
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 13:57:54 GMT
it would only be fraud if it was liverpool selling the tickets for 2k though...they're not,it's private sellers so technically not 100% legal in the first place as you're not supposed to resell tickets.....think they'd have a tough time getting a fraud charge to stick if someone complained for paying too much for an illegal ticket That's exactly the way it would be seen in any industry as well Yes, I know. But do these scousers think they had been born under a gooseberry bush fair point! so what's Rogers said? i can't find anything on BBC website
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 15, 2015 14:08:37 GMT
Yes, I know. But do these scousers think they had been born under a gooseberry bush fair point! so what's Rogers said? i can't find anything on BBC website [/quote "Steven Gerrard:Brendan Rodgers says Liverpool exit not permanent". BR goes on to say loan move hasn't been discussed but cannot be ruled out!
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Post by hartzchoco on May 15, 2015 14:17:12 GMT
So, apparently there is a possibility of Gerrard returning to Liverpool at some point after this season. That's more than can be said for Rodgers.
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Post by lastoftheldk on May 15, 2015 14:19:21 GMT
The only reason he 'Stayed loyal to his city' is because his family was threatened by gangsters. Otherwise he would have been at Chelsea before you could say 'Greedy scouse twat' Flattered to deceive for his country and looked lost when Alonso left. Good player, but overhyped! Forgive me if I don't join the jizzfest H It shocks me that there are still people out there that believe that 'gangster' shit. There is a part in Carraghers book, that tells you the type of people certain Liverpool players are friendly with, , allegedly,
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Post by RAF on May 15, 2015 15:55:34 GMT
The only reason he 'Stayed loyal to his city' is because his family was threatened by gangsters. Otherwise he would have been at Chelsea before you could say 'Greedy scouse twat' Flattered to deceive for his country and looked lost when Alonso left. Good player, but overhyped! Forgive me if I don't join the jizzfest H It shocks me that there are still people out there that believe that 'gangster' shit. I'd do a bit of research if I were you! H
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Post by jeycov on May 15, 2015 15:56:38 GMT
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Post by rednwhite43 on May 15, 2015 16:00:14 GMT
With all the media frenzy surrounding gerards last home game vs palace i dont hink he will put a foot on the brit pitch next week, in my opinion rodgers wouldnt want him goin out with a rocket up his arse from the stoke faithfull so wouldnt be surprised to see him left out
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Post by kjpt140v on May 15, 2015 16:02:46 GMT
Don't care either way, he's done well for England but he is no Bobby Moore or Jimmy Greaves for that matter, he's a thug, good riddance.
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Post by kjpt140v on May 15, 2015 16:08:33 GMT
As I begin to write this I can almost hear the howls of derision from certain sections of our supporter base, however I feel pretty strongly about this so I am going to make a suggestion for the Liverpool game. Be interested in your thoughts. As we know, Steven Gerrard is bringing the curtain down on his career in English football at the Britannia Stadium. Gerrard has been, in my opinion, a fantastic asset not only for his club, for also for his country. Never once eschewing a call up or putting himself or his body first, his England career can be rightly considered in comparison with anyone who has worn the Three Lions. His 114 caps for his country is testament to his enduring capability in the middle of midfield for England, and in my adult lifetime of watching the game only Paul Scholes can be considered his equal. But in my opinion, Gerrard stands for more than that, and that is why it is my hope that Stoke fans will put aside personal pettiness and recognise his other attributes. As Stoke City supporters, there are few attributes that we value more than loyalty, and in this regard Gerrard stands completely alone. He has, on far more occasions than Liverpool Football Club should have found themselves, been the single glimmer of light, the only catalyst for the moderate success the club has enjoyed (relative to it's standing) over the past 20 years. In 2005, he single handedly dragged them back into a Champions League Final they had no right to be in, based solely on his work ethic and appetite to succeed. Gerrard had ample opportunity to move during the 2000's, move to bigger clubs, better clubs, clubs that could (shudder…) "match his ambition". He didn't. He stayed loyal and faithful to the city he was raised in. And this, more than anything else, makes him worthy of particular praise. So, to my suggestion. I'm not asking us to sing "you'll never walk alone", or "there's only one Steven Gerrard". What I feel is the right thing to do is a minute's applause in the 8th minute to acknowledge and pay respect to the loyalty and career of an exceptional sportsman. Everywhere he's been this year, they've sung that fucking song about him falling over. Everywhere. I have been brought up on the belief that Stoke fans are different from the rest, cut from a different cloth. We are supporters who recognise and reward achievement, but more importantly character. Gerrard has shown it in spades and, in the eyes of the world, we have a unique opportunity to respect that, and show to a watching world what separates Stoke City from the rest of the flock. Thanks for reading. What a crock of shit. This guy is a thug on and off the pitch, I'm pleased he played for England but don't ever compare him with Moore, Greaves, Banks etc.. He'll get nothing from me.
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