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Post by Miles Offside on May 11, 2015 17:16:14 GMT
Doesn't seem that long ago when £600K for Brynjar Gunnarsson was our record signing.
Now it's spare change for a kiddie who might hardly ever get a game.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 11, 2015 17:39:43 GMT
He sounds awful.
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Post by Claus_SCFC on May 11, 2015 17:53:47 GMT
Most No.2 keepers have a far better CV than this lad, at least the ones I can think of off the top of my head. People like Myhill, Given, McCarthy at QPR, Hennessey at Palace, Mannone at Sunderland. If they're not great, at least they're grizzled old veterans who've been around and don't mind getting splinters on the bench If there's substance with this link, I'm still not remotely convinced that he's pencilled in as No.2. Must be No.3 surely? This is a guy who FC Midtjylland actively replaced as their No.1 in January with someone I've never heard of, because they didn't think he was good enough for them? And I'm guessing a kind comparison for their level is bottom half of the Championship? That's being very kind to the standard of the Danish League, Grapey
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Post by baystokie on May 11, 2015 17:58:01 GMT
We've perhaps been a bit spoilt having two quality keepers here for so long- I think most teams at our level have to make do with someone not that great as second choice. He does sound worryingly shit though! ??? 'Worryingly shit'? - says who? some Danish journo? - Many on here don't trust the views of English football journos, so why a Danish version?
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Post by baystokie on May 11, 2015 17:59:04 GMT
: Depends where your sounds come from and who made them!
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Post by mattythestokie on May 11, 2015 17:59:30 GMT
I presume he's sorensons replacement for now.
We'll need another keeper should Begovic go and that's when I presume we'll see someone like Bogdan.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 11, 2015 18:01:53 GMT
We can do a little better than Bogdan surely?
I'd keep Tommy....
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Post by baystokie on May 11, 2015 18:02:11 GMT
By all accounts he was playing week in week out for the Danish champions elect, they simply went out and got a more experienced pro in. That doesn't mean he was shit canned or that he's pants. None of us have ever actually seen him play so hard to judge. If he has been recommended by Tommy however I would happily take his opinion on the guy as a good endorsement. Sometimes us Stoke fans do have a tendency to shit on players even before they've kicked a ball for us! Take the point. But your No.2 keeper is a broken leg away from being your season-long No.1 - and nothing about this guy's career would make you comfortable with that scenario. A much smaller club with not even a tenth of our resources weren't happy with it at this stage of his development it seems? He may have potential - but, at 23, he's no spring chicken - and he's not battle-hardened as he's barely got any professional games under his belt. Suppose the problem with the No.2 role is also that he can't be loaned out to gain experience, but is effectively chained to the subs bench every week There's an argument that says your No.2 has got to be a mature keeper who's ready to be chucked in, not someone who needs games to grow. At least Butland had got well over 100 games under his belt. If he's 3rd choice, that's probably totally different as he's far enough from the coal face to grow and see what he turns into with loan spells and time. How 'mature' was Bego when he was Tommy's stand-in?
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Post by FullerMagic on May 11, 2015 18:28:48 GMT
Take the point. But your No.2 keeper is a broken leg away from being your season-long No.1 - and nothing about this guy's career would make you comfortable with that scenario. A much smaller club with not even a tenth of our resources weren't happy with it at this stage of his development it seems? He may have potential - but, at 23, he's no spring chicken - and he's not battle-hardened as he's barely got any professional games under his belt. Suppose the problem with the No.2 role is also that he can't be loaned out to gain experience, but is effectively chained to the subs bench every week There's an argument that says your No.2 has got to be a mature keeper who's ready to be chucked in, not someone who needs games to grow. At least Butland had got well over 100 games under his belt. If he's 3rd choice, that's probably totally different as he's far enough from the coal face to grow and see what he turns into with loan spells and time. How 'mature' was Bego when he was Tommy's stand-in? Every case is different - but the fact he'd been trusted to start 13 or 14 games for a Premier League team spoke pretty loudly about what Portsmouth thought about him. He was spoken of glowingly and a top 6 team wanted him to be their No.2 at exactly the same time we were in for him, and one of the biggest teams in the world wanted him to be their No.2 within a few months of him arriving here. The fact that even a small Danish club with 5% of our wage budget, and playing at a much lower standard, felt the need to bring in a replacement has got to be a worry if the plan is to put him second in line with all the responsibility that brings. If he's third in line, it's a different case.
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Post by liathroid on May 11, 2015 18:54:46 GMT
How 'mature' was Bego when he was Tommy's stand-in? Every case is different - but the fact he'd been trusted to start 13 or 14 games for a Premier League team spoke pretty loudly about what Portsmouth thought about him. He was spoken of glowingly and a top 6 team wanted him to be their No.2 at exactly the same time we were in for him, and one of the biggest teams in the world wanted him to be their No.2 within a few months of him arriving here. The fact that even a small Danish club with 5% of our wage budget, and playing at a much lower standard, felt the need to bring in a replacement has got to be a worry if the plan is to put him second in line with all the responsibility that brings. If he's third in line, it's a different case. we have looked at him, surely our goalkeeping coach checked him out ,we must have saw something otherwise we would not be signing him
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 18:57:51 GMT
Never seen or heard of the lad so it would be wrong to judge him. it seems though that some have the knives sharpened already without ever seeing him either
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 11, 2015 18:59:55 GMT
Never seen or heard of the lad so it would be wrong to judge him. it seems though that some have the knives sharpened already without ever seeing him either No they aren't. He just sounds awful and that's what people are saying. I have no knife for this chap. I hope to God to only see him play for the U-21's! And that's got nowt to do with how good/bad he is.
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Post by Gunslinger on May 11, 2015 19:00:48 GMT
I got a new and radical idea: Why don't we let him adapt to the club and the training regime, and then give him a few matches under his belt before we judge him?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 19:01:44 GMT
I got a new and radical idea: Why don't we let him adapt to the club and the training regime, and then give him a few matches under his belt before we judge him? Stupid idea mate. He sounds rubbish so he must be...
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 19:02:51 GMT
Never seen or heard of the lad so it would be wrong to judge him. it seems though that some have the knives sharpened already without ever seeing him either No they aren't. He just sounds awful and that's what people are saying. I have no knife for this chap. I hope to God to only see him play for the U-21's! And that's got nowt to do with how good/bad he is. Not sure how he sounds awful. Each to there own but I'll remain open minded until we actually see the lad. I thought some would of learnt after the odemwingie signing
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Post by Silkystoke on May 11, 2015 19:05:18 GMT
Thought he lost his place in the team because of a new owner, and the owner wanted his son in goal or another member of his family.....he was pushed out...!!!!! I think there is a link with the Brentford owner... ( sorry if already mentioned )
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Post by FullerMagic on May 11, 2015 19:07:51 GMT
Never seen or heard of the lad so it would be wrong to judge him. it seems though that some have the knives sharpened already without ever seeing him either No they aren't. He just sounds awful and that's what people are saying. I have no knife for this chap. I hope to God to only see him play for the U-21's! And that's got nowt to do with how good/bad he is. I wouldn't say "awful", Bayern. Just thatI think objectively he would seem to possess a very strange CV to plonk on to a Premier League bench based on a couple of things that are undeniable: his lack of games and fact he's been replaced by his club after half a season as a regular in a poor league. Add in the opinion of our resident Danish Stokie in Claus, who always seems fair-minded, who seems to think he's rather poor, and it at least would appear worthy of debate. Or shall we not bother discussing things on here anymore?
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Post by Claus_SCFC on May 11, 2015 19:08:47 GMT
Thought he lost his place in the team because of a new owner, and the owner wanted his son in goal or another member of his family.....he was pushed out...!!!!! I think there is a link with the Brentford owner... ( sorry if already mentioned ) Bollocks! He lost his place because the coach Glen Riddersholm lost faith in him. The clubs new owner (the guy who also owns Brentford) funded the signing of a Swedish keeper.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 11, 2015 19:12:17 GMT
No they aren't. He just sounds awful and that's what people are saying. I have no knife for this chap. I hope to God to only see him play for the U-21's! And that's got nowt to do with how good/bad he is. Not sure how he sounds awful. Each to there own but I'll remain open minded until we actually see the lad. I thought some would of learnt after the odemwingie signing Because the people that have seen him play think/hope it's a joke?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 19:14:29 GMT
For all the good work that we look like doing in the Transfer Market, signings like this, and Wollscheid, make me a little nervous about what we are actually seeing when we look at players.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 11, 2015 19:16:07 GMT
No they aren't. He just sounds awful and that's what people are saying. I have no knife for this chap. I hope to God to only see him play for the U-21's! And that's got nowt to do with how good/bad he is. I wouldn't say "awful", Bayern. Just thatI think objectively he would seem to possess a very strange CV to plonk on to a Premier League bench based on a couple of things that are undeniable: his lack of games and fact he's been replaced by his club after half a season as a regular in a poor league. Add in the opinion of our resident Danish Stokie in Claus, who always seems fair-minded, who seems to think he's rather poor, and it at least would appear worthy of debate. Or shall we not bother discussing things on here anymore? Being dropped from a side in a second/third??? rate European league sounds pretty awful to me tbh Grapey! And the word joke has popped up twice from 2 people who presumably don't know each other and have watched him, joke is a strong word in this respect. But I agree, it has to be discussed and Claus is beyond fair and usually an excellent judge.
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Post by Kjones9 on May 11, 2015 19:28:10 GMT
After reading the Twitter scouts verdict. I'll be the first to say, I hate him.
Sorry forgot the obligatory, I hope he proves me wrong.
(Not really)
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 11, 2015 19:31:40 GMT
I don't hope he proves me wrong tbh. I hope I never see him playing a game for the Stoke first team! But again that isn't down to his ability.
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Post by Silkystoke on May 11, 2015 19:35:44 GMT
Thought he lost his place in the team because of a new owner, and the owner wanted his son in goal or another member of his family.....he was pushed out...!!!!! I think there is a link with the Brentford owner... ( sorry if already mentioned ) Bollocks! He lost his place because the coach Glen Riddersholm lost faith in him. The clubs new owner (the guy who also owns Brentford) funded the signing of a Swedish keeper. Ok I stand corrected, sorry for even posting that.....!!!!
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Post by stokemanusa on May 11, 2015 19:37:00 GMT
I got a new and radical idea: Why don't we let him adapt to the club and the training regime, and then give him a few matches under his belt before we judge him? Stupid idea mate. He sounds rubbish so he must be... So not Oatcake. lol
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Post by lordb on May 11, 2015 19:39:57 GMT
For all the good work that we look like doing in the Transfer Market, signings like this, and Wollscheid, make me a little nervous about what we are actually seeing when we look at players. Just keeping us on our toes?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 19:40:38 GMT
For all the good work that we look like doing in the Transfer Market, signings like this, and Wollscheid, make me a little nervous about what we are actually seeing when we look at players. Just keeping us on our toes? Ha!
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 11, 2015 19:41:27 GMT
I don't think anyone is really judging them are they? I certainly am not. He sounds awful........he does. That's just a litte pre comment that means absolutely sod all.
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 11, 2015 19:43:28 GMT
When Manchester United signed Peter schmeichel from FC bronby for 600k sometime in the 90's no-one had ever heard of him and during his first 10-15 games, maybe more, he was bloody awful.
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Post by stokemanusa on May 11, 2015 19:44:31 GMT
Never heard of him. Bless him as he's going to get the usual ringer on here if he gets a game. I wonder what the scouts saw? Maybe penalty specialist? Were going to miss sorro's experience there.
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