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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 8, 2015 11:07:32 GMT
His amazing ability to control a high ball pinged at him and his ability to hold off defenders with his Kardashian-like arse strength in tight situations are his best qualities.
Other than that, as we all know, he's desperately hit and miss. Capable of moments of greatness and the same amount of PDSL-ness. It's baffling that a player with such technique in certain areas is completely devoid of it when it comes to striking at goal.
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Post by skip on Apr 8, 2015 11:09:55 GMT
I love the way he can bring down lofted ball. Proper 'dab of glue on the toe of his boot' stuff. I said that! I always wanted to be able to kill a ball like that so I have lots of time for him as a result! It makes us look classy if nothing else! He did it last season against Arsenal at home and then set off down the wing. I was sitting close to the front with my nippers - they were mesmerised and have loved him ever since. Mind you, I was grinning like a big kid too.
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Post by kevkj on Apr 8, 2015 11:15:38 GMT
Same player who consistently cannot play a five yard pass to a player in stripes.
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Post by unknown182 on Apr 8, 2015 11:20:05 GMT
He's an obscure player. One of the best first touches you'll see and he has the vision and creativity that's often two steps ahead of everyone else. But he's not quick enough to be an straight up "beat the fullback and cross" type of winger. I've said it before and the more I've seen him play for Austria, the more I'm convinced - Unless we sign a full back that's willing to overlap and create space for him, we will never see him full potential. The reason he is often ineffective for us is that he receives the ball on the halfway line, Pieters/Bardsley stays back, and then he has no choice but to pass back because the opposition stick two players on him. For Austria he has Alaba/Fuchs bombing forward constantly and the opposition defense is pegged back leaving him the space to create things.
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 8, 2015 11:22:37 GMT
I like him.
He just needs a bit more composure in the final third.
Still think there's a lot more to come.
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Post by adamsson on Apr 8, 2015 11:22:41 GMT
Simple fact is he was signed by the wrong manager some people on here will never accept anyone not signed by the capped one, they will have to eventually but they will resist as long as possible.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 11:25:31 GMT
Simple fact is he was signed by the wrong manager some people on here will never accept anyone not signed by the capped one, they will have to eventually but they will resist as long as possible. Sorry but that's cobblers I dunna care who the manager is or was it's about production for the team.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 8, 2015 11:26:33 GMT
Most Stoke fans. The frisson, that ripples around the ground when he picks up the ball or comes on has long since been an exercise in futility. He can do nice things and in most games he works very hard but he hasn't made a telling difference in a game for months and months.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Apr 8, 2015 11:46:00 GMT
I no longer think there is more to come with Arnie. His contribution just doesn't stack up with the demand for his selection. There must be better out there, irrespective of what we paid for him, what we might get for him and what a replacement might cost. I don't think he'll be here next season. He can't be happy at the lack of game time and Hughes must wonder what he offers.
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Post by penkvillepotter on Apr 8, 2015 11:48:42 GMT
Not done enough for me. I could live without him.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 8, 2015 11:48:59 GMT
The competition with Moses on that left flank makes most players up their games.
It is telling that Arnie has reacted in the complete opposite way.
He tries to show his confidence and strutt around the pitch like the big "I AM" but actually hes totally insecure in his own ability.
He does have ability but we cant keep waiting until two-thirds through a season when his head is finally in the right place.
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Post by lordb on Apr 8, 2015 11:50:16 GMT
He needs some goals
up to him.
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Apr 8, 2015 11:50:59 GMT
I totally agree with you kev, he has done zero for two seasons, bar the 8 games you mentioned..., I can see him gone by August.. waste of space. Fuck me
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 8, 2015 12:04:21 GMT
Was part of the team that took us to our record breaking PL season last season and a few months ago his return to the team coincided with us going on a great run of form.
The facts are that he is good player but massively frustrating. The manager has to decide whether to persevere or replace him. I'm not arsed either way, as long as any replacement is better than what we have.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Apr 8, 2015 12:09:35 GMT
He's clearly a very talented footballer, the question is can anybody get it out of him on a consistent basis, i believe we would have one hell of a player on our hands if we could but i doubt that he will fulfill his potential at Stoke based on the last 2 seasons.
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Post by upthefud on Apr 8, 2015 12:34:42 GMT
Totally with Kev on this.
Behind Diouf and Walters in the pecking order for the RW role so I would suggest his time here is coming to an end.
Would anybody be genuinely gutted if we sold him?
I'd wish him well in the future but I think he needs to go
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 12:37:22 GMT
After watching Arnie for over the best part of two seasons ,i fail to see anything resembling a top footballer there. The lad had a purple patch last season of around 8 matches on the back of the whole team playing well. Before this he was bordering on dire.He again carried this form on this season. No goals ,no shots,no assists just gets applauded for chasing back when hes usually caught wrong side. I really dont get it at all with him ,for me he would be out the door.How a player of such ordinaryness can be adored by some amazes me. Personally, I think you're absolutely bang on
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Post by scfc2014 on Apr 8, 2015 12:42:51 GMT
I think he's dead overrated,he does a couple of tricks fucks up and pulls his face,get rid I say,miserable bastard
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 12:51:06 GMT
It seems as though patience has run out for Arnie !
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Post by pez75 on Apr 8, 2015 12:54:29 GMT
These threads are shit and just stir up rifts for no other reason tham petty mb point-scoring. Gives a few of you mindless fucks an opportunity to vent your agenda-driven bile though eh?
Arnie is a useful member of our squad who has stepped up to the plate on numerous occasions despite being one of a few players vying for the same position(s). He has done this without any moaning (well off the pitch at least!) and says nothing but good things about the club, management, fellow players & fans.
Hughes picks him when he sees fit and it is not as if he is playing every game despite playing shit - like you used to see happen with players under the old regime - so why the grief?
His last full game (v Palace) he was excellent - used the ball well, beat his full-back time and again, and created numerous potential chances.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 8, 2015 13:27:33 GMT
I think he's dead overrated,he does a couple of tricks fucks up and pulls his face,get rid I say,miserable bastard What if he did it with a smile
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Apr 8, 2015 13:29:56 GMT
Safe to say, he'd be fooked off at the first opportunity under Pulis!!!
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Apr 8, 2015 13:30:45 GMT
I think he's dead overrated,he does a couple of tricks fucks up and pulls his face,get rid I say,miserable bastard What if he did it with a smile
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Post by scfc2014 on Apr 8, 2015 13:34:13 GMT
Nowt do with that is it,I used be a winger and the idea is get to the by line and put in a decent cross,how many time does he do that eh????he gets the the ball and does a bit of dancing then pulls his face when it comes to nowt,we need better smile or no smile
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Post by stokeyank on Apr 8, 2015 13:38:37 GMT
Been said many times, if he played to his potential all the time, he would likely be bought up by a big team, such are his abilities when playing well. His demeanor when things don't go his way turns off many people (and pisses me off too), but I still think he's a very useful player to have in the team. Very frustrating but I like Arnie and I hope he is around a while.
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Post by mrred on Apr 8, 2015 13:45:39 GMT
I don't even find him frustrating anymore. I just don't think he's very good. I wouldn't bat an eyelid if he was sold in the summer, thought there's nothing to suggest that he would be.
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Post by redstriper on Apr 8, 2015 14:12:01 GMT
Most Stoke fans. The frisson, that ripples around the ground when he picks up the ball or comes on has long since been an exercise in futility. He can do nice things and in most games he works very hard but he hasn't made a telling difference in a game for months and months. Bang on. Amazes me that so many jump to his defence, I think it's more down to not wanting to be proved wrong on here. He hasn't done anything worth jizzing about in the entire season, he produced one decent cross for a Crouch goal and celebrated like it was Christmas, which says a lot. The "need games" bollocks wasn't true in November and is even less so now. Even during his hot spell he gave the ball away more than anyone else, re-run Fulham 4-1 if you don't believe me. I wish him well, but if he is first choice we can forget about progressing further.
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Post by Fenparkpotter on Apr 8, 2015 14:37:26 GMT
As much as I like him... he's a real "nearly" man. Nearly scores, nearly does something special, nearly gets it right...
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 8, 2015 14:38:26 GMT
Most Stoke fans. The frisson, that ripples around the ground when he picks up the ball or comes on has long since been an exercise in futility. He can do nice things and in most games he works very hard but he hasn't made a telling difference in a game for months and months. Bang on. Amazes me that so many jump to his defence, I think it's more down to not wanting to be proved wrong on here. He hasn't done anything worth jizzing about in the entire season, he produced one decent cross for a Crouch goal and celebrated like it was Christmas, which says a lot. The "need games" bollocks wasn't true in November and is even less so now. Even during his hot spell he gave the ball away more than anyone else, re-run Fulham 4-1 if you don't believe me. I wish him well, but if he is first choice we can forget about progressing further. One decent cross , it was sublime, and I'm guessing he celebrated like that because of frustration of lack of game time and a few recent poor performances.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Apr 8, 2015 14:46:16 GMT
Clearly talented, massively overrated. I don't see how he's overrated at all, I can't remember the last time I saw a thread on here that was started with the intention of bumming him. In fact most of the threads are started to slate him, and people turn up to defend him. And it's definitely not as though he's got a cult following, or you see loads of shirts with his name on, or people getting pissed off when he doesn't play. And other fans and teams and the media don't seem to mention him at all. He'soccasionally really good, occasionally really crap, but I definitely wouldn't say he's overrated. Not unless you also said he's underrated.
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