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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 17:28:09 GMT
There's absolutely no need for the overreaction (again) after one dismal performance. I see people are writing players off again ( bayernoatcake) despite it being the same squad of players that took us to 8th, and won 3 on the bounce prior to today's match. Why is there always the need to declare players, or the team, world beaters when we win a couple, and then jump off the cliff after a bad day at the office? Of course the squad needs strengthening but that will be the case ad finitium. We'll never reach the point where our squad is perfect in all areas. Instead of knee jerk reactions on isolated incidents, let's look at the bigger picture for once. This squad of players, and our manager, are bloody brilliant and the best we've had for decades. Life is good! |
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Post by thisfootballclub on Mar 14, 2015 17:28:53 GMT
Well said.
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Post by S.O.N.S. on Mar 14, 2015 17:30:58 GMT
Hang on, its OK for players to have bad games as well. It's allowed.
Jfw
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Post by Scrotnig on Mar 14, 2015 17:32:28 GMT
None of the players shone today but they are still a fantastic team that have done really well under trying circumstances, and the same applies to our manager.
I really hate the way this board turns on its own players after every defeat. It's the worst I've seen it on any football supporters' board, anywhere. Except possibly Newcastle.
Teams lose. I know this because I asked a Chelsea fan, and I thought they never lost.
We need to get over it and focus on the next game, which we'll certainly win. Or not, as the case may well be.
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 14, 2015 17:32:33 GMT
There's absolutely no need for the overreaction (again) after one dismal performance. I see people are writing players off again ( bayernoatcake) despite it being the same squad of players that took us to 8th, and won 3 on the bounce prior to today's match. Why is there always the need to declare players, or the team, world beaters when we win a couple, and then jump off the cliff after a bad day at the office? Of course the squad needs strengthening but that will be the case ad finitium. We'll never reach the point where our squad is perfect in all areas. Instead of knee jerk reactions on isolated incidents, let's look at the bigger picture for once. This squad of players, and our manager, are bloody brilliant and the best we've had for decades. Life is good! Bayern writes all players off that way he can't actually ever jump but look as if he did. He's like Claude from Arsenal. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 14, 2015 17:33:07 GMT
You really think it's about the result today......bless!  This is just a continuation of what should've been the policy since January and definitely since we got safe. We're doing ace but they won't be here next season, there's no point in playing them especially Adam. We have a special talent who plays the position Adam plays and that fat useless thing is wasting an excellent chance for him. And if Geoff is coming on at centre back (that was an odd decision in itself) then why not bring Tex on? He's the future surely? He needs a chance surely? Neither have a future here and their presence is wasting chances for others that might do. That annoys me. I couldn't give a fuck about the result, we were always going to lose. |
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Post by stokeoptimist on Mar 14, 2015 17:33:27 GMT
There's absolutely no need for the overreaction (again) after one dismal performance. I see people are writing players off again ( bayernoatcake) despite it being the same squad of players that took us to 8th, and won 3 on the bounce prior to today's match. Why is there always the need to declare players, or the team, world beaters when we win a couple, and then jump off the cliff after a bad day at the office? Of course the squad needs strengthening but that will be the case ad finitium. We'll never reach the point where our squad is perfect in all areas. Instead of knee jerk reactions on isolated incidents, let's look at the bigger picture for once. This squad of players, and our manager, are bloody brilliant and the best we've had for decades. Life is good! A voice of reason :-) Anyway we all knew we were going to lose this one? |
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Post by stokeoptimist on Mar 14, 2015 17:38:50 GMT
You really think it's about the result today......bless! This is just a continuation of what should've been the policy since January and definitely since we got safe. We're doing ace but they won't be here next season, there's no point in playing them especially Adam. We have a special talent who plays the position Adam plays and that fat useless thing is wasting an excellent chance for him. And if Geoff is coming on at centre back (that was an odd decision in itself) then why not bring Tex on? He's the future surely? He needs a chance surely? Neither have a future here and their presence is wasting chances for others that might do. That annoys me. I couldn't give a fuck about the result, we were always going to lose. Are you for real? Those same players have just won 3 on the bounce, we are down to the bare bones due to injuries and everybody is aware we need new players in at the end of the year! Why cant you just accept we had a bad day and the best team won, it happens, end of! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 17:39:04 GMT
You really think it's about the result today......bless! This is just a continuation of what should've been the policy since January and definitely since we got safe. We're doing ace but they won't be here next season, there's no point in playing them especially Adam. We have a special talent who plays the position Adam plays and that fat useless thing is wasting an excellent chance for him. And if Geoff is coming on at centre back (that was an odd decision in itself) then why not bring Tex on? He's the future surely? He needs a chance surely? Neither have a future here and their presence is wasting chances for others that might do. That annoys me. I couldn't give a fuck about the result, we were always going to lose. We need to strengthen. Yes. The medal is in the post mate. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 14, 2015 17:42:26 GMT
You really think it's about the result today......bless! This is just a continuation of what should've been the policy since January and definitely since we got safe. We're doing ace but they won't be here next season, there's no point in playing them especially Adam. We have a special talent who plays the position Adam plays and that fat useless thing is wasting an excellent chance for him. And if Geoff is coming on at centre back (that was an odd decision in itself) then why not bring Tex on? He's the future surely? He needs a chance surely? Neither have a future here and their presence is wasting chances for others that might do. That annoys me. I couldn't give a fuck about the result, we were always going to lose. We need to strengthen. Yes. The medal is in the post mate. I aren't on about strengthening! I'm on about giving younger players a chance. Surely you can read that from that post? Seriously..... |
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Mar 14, 2015 17:43:23 GMT
There's absolutely no need for the overreaction (again) after one dismal performance. I see people are writing players off again ( bayernoatcake) despite it being the same squad of players that took us to 8th, and won 3 on the bounce prior to today's match. Why is there always the need to declare players, or the team, world beaters when we win a couple, and then jump off the cliff after a bad day at the office? Of course the squad needs strengthening but that will be the case ad finitium. We'll never reach the point where our squad is perfect in all areas. Instead of knee jerk reactions on isolated incidents, let's look at the bigger picture for once. This squad of players, and our manager, are bloody brilliant and the best we've had for decades. Life is good! Didn't some Manc fan say about the same on a thread last week ? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 14, 2015 17:44:49 GMT
You really think it's about the result today......bless! This is just a continuation of what should've been the policy since January and definitely since we got safe. We're doing ace but they won't be here next season, there's no point in playing them especially Adam. We have a special talent who plays the position Adam plays and that fat useless thing is wasting an excellent chance for him. And if Geoff is coming on at centre back (that was an odd decision in itself) then why not bring Tex on? He's the future surely? He needs a chance surely? Neither have a future here and their presence is wasting chances for others that might do. That annoys me. I couldn't give a fuck about the result, we were always going to lose. Are you for real? Those same players have just won 3 on the bounce, we are down to the bare bones due to injuries and everybody is aware we need new players in at the end of the year! Why cant you just accept we had a bad day and the best team won, it happens, end of! Yes. I aren't on about new players, I'm on about giving youngsters a chance, it's spelt out in there surely? I have accepted that.....I couldn't give a shit about the result....like I've said. I give a shit about pathways for decent young players being blocked by poor footballers. That's what is happening here. I've been calling for Shenton to start over Adam for weeks for instance!  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 17:45:21 GMT
Cameron and Adam have both more than played their part. It isn't the first time you've written players off prematurely either.
"If Wilson plays more than 10 games this season, we're in serious trouble."
Give it a rest mate.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 14, 2015 17:46:37 GMT
Cameron and Adam have both more than played their part. It isn't the first time you've written players off prematurely either. "If Wilson plays more than 10 games this season, we're in serious trouble." Give it a rest mate. And we were until he was dropped! And do you really think either of these (Adam and Cameron) will be here next season (at the end of summer window)? Tenner says they won't...... The brackets are for clarification for betting purposes. |
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Post by stokiejoe on Mar 14, 2015 17:47:23 GMT
You really think it's about the result today......bless! This is just a continuation of what should've been the policy since January and definitely since we got safe. We're doing ace but they won't be here next season, there's no point in playing them especially Adam. We have a special talent who plays the position Adam plays and that fat useless thing is wasting an excellent chance for him. And if Geoff is coming on at centre back (that was an odd decision in itself) then why not bring Tex on? He's the future surely? He needs a chance surely? Neither have a future here and their presence is wasting chances for others that might do. That annoys me. I couldn't give a fuck about the result, we were always going to lose. I'm with Bayern on this one. Why is balanced criticism seen as panic or over the top Some players needed replacing and haven't been and where they have the alternatives haven't been used. |
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 14, 2015 17:48:03 GMT
Cameron and Adam have both more than played their part. It isn't the first time you've written players off prematurely either. "If Wilson plays more than 10 games this season, we're in serious trouble." Give it a rest mate. The Bardsley is a more "solid" defender and a natural... that's a close second to this. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 17:50:23 GMT
Indeed we all knew we would throw er lose this one , wouldn't it be nice if we didn't?
Console ourselves with the , and I can't believe I'm saying this poor Sunderland fans who are victim to yet another show stopping adventure from the saviour of Villa that is the total cock Sherwood.
Premiership is now more showbiz than reality how long before it's excepted as such just like the WWF wrestling.
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Post by stokiejoe on Mar 14, 2015 17:50:52 GMT
You really think it's about the result today......bless! This is just a continuation of what should've been the policy since January and definitely since we got safe. We're doing ace but they won't be here next season, there's no point in playing them especially Adam. We have a special talent who plays the position Adam plays and that fat useless thing is wasting an excellent chance for him. And if Geoff is coming on at centre back (that was an odd decision in itself) then why not bring Tex on? He's the future surely? He needs a chance surely? Neither have a future here and their presence is wasting chances for others that might do. That annoys me. I couldn't give a fuck about the result, we were always going to lose. I'm with Bayern on this one. Adam shouldn't be starting and Tex has to be given a chance. |
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Post by stokeoptimist on Mar 14, 2015 17:51:27 GMT
You really think it's about the result today......bless! This is just a continuation of what should've been the policy since January and definitely since we got safe. We're doing ace but they won't be here next season, there's no point in playing them especially Adam. We have a special talent who plays the position Adam plays and that fat useless thing is wasting an excellent chance for him. And if Geoff is coming on at centre back (that was an odd decision in itself) then why not bring Tex on? He's the future surely? He needs a chance surely? Neither have a future here and their presence is wasting chances for others that might do. That annoys me. I couldn't give a fuck about the result, we were always going to lose. I'm with Bayern on this one. Why is balanced criticism seen as panic or over the top Some players needed replacing and haven't been and where they have the alternatives haven't been used. Your not making sense, why wouldn't he play the same players that have just won three in a row and taken us to our highest position? Your saying in hindsight that he should have replaced them with Shenton and Teixera who are clearly not ready yet? That's just boll@x |
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Post by adamsson on Mar 14, 2015 17:51:54 GMT
There's absolutely no need for the overreaction (again) after one dismal performance. I see people are writing players off again ( bayernoatcake) despite it being the same squad of players that took us to 8th, and won 3 on the bounce prior to today's match. Why is there always the need to declare players, or the team, world beaters when we win a couple, and then jump off the cliff after a bad day at the office? Of course the squad needs strengthening but that will be the case ad finitium. We'll never reach the point where our squad is perfect in all areas. Instead of knee jerk reactions on isolated incidents, let's look at the bigger picture for once. This squad of players, and our manager, are bloody brilliant and the best we've had for decades. Life is good! We could react in a sane and intelligent manner but we are football fans we don't do sane or intelligent we do hysterical over reaction and panic  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 14, 2015 17:52:48 GMT
I'm with Bayern on this one. Why is balanced criticism seen as panic or over the top Some players needed replacing and haven't been and where they have the alternatives haven't been used. Your not making sense, why wouldn't he play the same players that have just won three in a row and taken us to our highest position? Your saying in hindsight that he should have replaced them with Shenton and Teixera who are clearly not ready yet? That's just boll@x Hindsight? I've been saying we should play Shenton over Adam for weeks! |
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Post by stokeoptimist on Mar 14, 2015 17:54:45 GMT
Your not making sense, why wouldn't he play the same players that have just won three in a row and taken us to our highest position? Your saying in hindsight that he should have replaced them with Shenton and Teixera who are clearly not ready yet? That's just boll@x Hindsight? I've been saying we should play Shenton over Adam for weeks! Forgive me, in that case your an idiot! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 17:55:33 GMT
Cameron and Adam have both more than played their part. It isn't the first time you've written players off prematurely either. "If Wilson plays more than 10 games this season, we're in serious trouble." Give it a rest mate. And we were until he was dropped! And do you really think either of these (Adam and Cameron) will be here next season (at the end of summer window)? Tenner says they won't...... The brackets are for clarification for betting purposes. I'd give you a bit of credit if you just admitted you got it massively wrong. There's no great shame in it. As for Adam and Geoff, they may move on. They'll both want regular first team football. We'll always have players on the periphery like that. You're just too quick to write some of them off. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 14, 2015 17:57:16 GMT
Hindsight? I've been saying we should play Shenton over Adam for weeks! Forgive me, in that case your an idiot! *you're And no I'm not. Adam was anonymous vs Everton and was bollocks today. And that's just a continuation of a dreadful season from an average player. We have an exceptional talent that plays where he does, we're safe, why not give him a go? He won't do anything less than Charlie, it's hard to achieve that. |
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Post by stokiejoe on Mar 14, 2015 17:58:03 GMT
I'm with Bayern on this one. Why is balanced criticism seen as panic or over the top Some players needed replacing and haven't been and where they have the alternatives haven't been used. Your not making sense, why wouldn't he play the same players that have just won three in a row and taken us to our highest position? Your saying in hindsight that he should have replaced them with Shenton and Teixera who are clearly not ready yet? That's just boll@x So is saying that Adam started the last three, it isn the same team is it? I am not saying it in hindsight, I would never start Adam, impact sub at best. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 14, 2015 17:59:19 GMT
And we were until he was dropped! And do you really think either of these (Adam and Cameron) will be here next season (at the end of summer window)? Tenner says they won't...... The brackets are for clarification for betting purposes. I'd give you a bit of credit if you just admitted you got it massively wrong. There's no great shame in it. As for Adam and Geoff, they may move on. They'll both want regular first team football. We'll always have players on the periphery like that. You're just too quick to write some of them off. If I thought I was wrong I'd admit it. We were heading downwards until Wilson got injured. Cameron has been awful for two seasons now (I quite liked him under Tone tbh) and Adam is what he is, doesn't fit the system (hasn't since he signed) and isn't my sort of footballer. Neither have a future here, why play them? |
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Post by pedro23 on Mar 14, 2015 18:01:52 GMT
Are you for real? Those same players have just won 3 on the bounce, we are down to the bare bones due to injuries and everybody is aware we need new players in at the end of the year! Why cant you just accept we had a bad day and the best team won, it happens, end of! Yes. I aren't on about new players, I'm on about giving youngsters a chance, it's spelt out in there surely? I have accepted that.....I couldn't give a shit about the result....like I've said. I give a shit about pathways for decent young players being blocked by poor footballers. That's what is happening here. I've been calling for Shenton to start over Adam for weeks for instance! The list of players who need replacing always appears after a defeat, never after a win, it's expected. What I find interesting is that certain posters keep quiet when we do get a win, but are always prominent following a defeat. I assume the Manager was looking to start last weeks winning team, a policy which has got us to 8th in the division so far. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 14, 2015 18:06:29 GMT
Yes. I aren't on about new players, I'm on about giving youngsters a chance, it's spelt out in there surely? I have accepted that.....I couldn't give a shit about the result....like I've said. I give a shit about pathways for decent young players being blocked by poor footballers. That's what is happening here. I've been calling for Shenton to start over Adam for weeks for instance! The list of players who need replacing always appears after a defeat, never after a win, it's expected. What I find interesting is that certain posters keep quiet when we do get a win, but are always prominent following a defeat. I assume the Manager was looking to start last weeks winning team, a policy which has got us to 8th in the division so far. Mine hasn't changed since the start of the season! Some do, I don't think I can be accused of not posting enough..... The manager fucked up today and the blame should solely be on him. Most of us knew that wasn't the team that would get the result today, we needed pace, he massively fucked up. It happens. It doesn't make it any less annoying especially when so many of us can see it was never going to work for the reasons it didn't. As it happens vs Everton, I thought Crouch and Adam were average at best, I thought Crouch was piss poor tbh! |
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Post by pedro23 on Mar 14, 2015 18:18:40 GMT
It's not about posting enough, its about daggers for certain players only when we lose. Did you post that Crouch was piss poor directly after the Everton game. If you did fair play to you. About todays team, where exactly was the pace to come from, Diouf instead of Crouch, maybe. Was this Board full of criticism when the team for today was selected. Maybe it was, I can't be arsed to look, if so then i take your point that "many of us can see it was never going to work"
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 14, 2015 18:22:38 GMT
Your not making sense, why wouldn't he play the same players that have just won three in a row and taken us to our highest position? Your saying in hindsight that he should have replaced them with Shenton and Teixera who are clearly not ready yet? That's just boll@x So is saying that Adam started the last three, it isn the same team is it? I am not saying it in hindsight, I would never start Adam, impact sub at best. So true... why he started at CAM is the most baffling thing for me... infront of so many other options... That's even worse than Bardsley's performance and Adam's attempt at a run out. Just shit. |
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