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Post by Beardy200 on Mar 14, 2015 18:24:55 GMT
The list of players who need replacing always appears after a defeat, never after a win, it's expected. What I find interesting is that certain posters keep quiet when we do get a win, but are always prominent following a defeat. I assume the Manager was looking to start last weeks winning team, a policy which has got us to 8th in the division so far. Mine hasn't changed since the start of the season! :D Some do, I don't think I can be accused of not posting enough.....The manager fucked up today and the blame should solely be on him. Most of us knew that wasn't the team that would get the result today, we needed pace, he massively fucked up. It happens. It doesn't make it any less annoying especially when so many of us can see it was never going to work for the reasons it didn't. As it happens vs Everton, I thought Crouch and Adam were average at best, I thought Crouch was piss poor tbh! Please don't come out of this thread thinking that's an accusation we all want you to sort out :D ;)
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 14, 2015 18:29:42 GMT
It's not about posting enough, its about daggers for certain players only when we lose. Did you post that Crouch was piss poor directly after the Everton game. If you did fair play to you. About todays team, where exactly was the pace to come from, Diouf instead of Crouch, maybe. Was this Board full of criticism when the team for today was selected. Maybe it was, I can't be arsed to look, if so then i take your point that "many of us can see it was never going to work" Adam. Because... we need a slower, less athletic option than Arnie or Cameron or Shenton at CAM because of merit versus a shit side in Everton.
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Post by mailman44 on Mar 14, 2015 19:10:24 GMT
There's absolutely no need for the overreaction (again) after one dismal performance. I see people are writing players off again ( bayernoatcake) despite it being the same squad of players that took us to 8th, and won 3 on the bounce prior to today's match. Why is there always the need to declare players, or the team, world beaters when we win a couple, and then jump off the cliff after a bad day at the office? Of course the squad needs strengthening but that will be the case ad finitium. We'll never reach the point where our squad is perfect in all areas. Instead of knee jerk reactions on isolated incidents, let's look at the bigger picture for once. This squad of players, and our manager, are bloody brilliant and the best we've had for decades. Life is good! Bayern writes all players off that way he can't actually ever jump but look as if he did. He's like Claude from Arsenal. Harsh!
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Post by mailman44 on Mar 14, 2015 19:14:08 GMT
You really think it's about the result today......bless! This is just a continuation of what should've been the policy since January and definitely since we got safe. We're doing ace but they won't be here next season, there's no point in playing them especially Adam. We have a special talent who plays the position Adam plays and that fat useless thing is wasting an excellent chance for him. And if Geoff is coming on at centre back (that was an odd decision in itself) then why not bring Tex on? He's the future surely? He needs a chance surely? Neither have a future here and their presence is wasting chances for others that might do. That annoys me. I couldn't give a fuck about the result, we were always going to lose. I'm with Bayern on this one. Adam shouldn't be starting and Tex has to be given a chance. Well I am all about putting the team on the pitch that gives us a chance to take 3 pts. Whoever that may be I trust Les to know.
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Post by jeycov on Mar 14, 2015 19:16:23 GMT
You really think it's about the result today......bless! This is just a continuation of what should've been the policy since January and definitely since we got safe. We're doing ace but they won't be here next season, there's no point in playing them especially Adam. We have a special talent who plays the position Adam plays and that fat useless thing is wasting an excellent chance for him. And if Geoff is coming on at centre back (that was an odd decision in itself) then why not bring Tex on? He's the future surely? He needs a chance surely? Neither have a future here and their presence is wasting chances for others that might do. That annoys me. I couldn't give a fuck about the result, we were always going to lose. Are you for real? Those same players have just won 3 on the bounce, we are down to the bare bones due to injuries and everybody is aware we need new players in at the end of the year! Why cant you just accept we had a bad day and the best team won, it happens, end of! Agree, yes it was a disappointing performance - move on, get ready for Crystal Palace
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 14, 2015 19:20:57 GMT
It was crap, let's move on.
MH got the team wrong but even then you'd expect far better individual performances.
Shitter of a day, let's make sure we win next week.
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 14, 2015 19:31:41 GMT
Look we always beat West Brom we haven't it's not acceptable fook off Hughes!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 14, 2015 19:32:18 GMT
I'm with Bayern on this one. Adam shouldn't be starting and Tex has to be given a chance. Well I am all about putting the team on the pitch that gives us a chance to take 3 pts. Whoever that may be I trust Les to know. I do too but today he got that wrong, massively so and most could see it from the off with no hindsight involved.
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Post by adi on Mar 14, 2015 19:33:46 GMT
There's absolutely no need for the overreaction (again) after one dismal performance. I see people are writing players off again ( bayernoatcake) despite it being the same squad of players that took us to 8th, and won 3 on the bounce prior to today's match. Why is there always the need to declare players, or the team, world beaters when we win a couple, and then jump off the cliff after a bad day at the office? Of course the squad needs strengthening but that will be the case ad finitium. We'll never reach the point where our squad is perfect in all areas. Instead of knee jerk reactions on isolated incidents, let's look at the bigger picture for once. This squad of players, and our manager, are bloody brilliant and the best we've had for decades. Life is good! Correct. Some 'blokes' on here need to take a long hard look at themselves. It's frankly laughable. Get a grip.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 14, 2015 19:50:16 GMT
There's absolutely no need for the overreaction (again) after one dismal performance. I see people are writing players off again ( bayernoatcake) despite it being the same squad of players that took us to 8th, and won 3 on the bounce prior to today's match. Why is there always the need to declare players, or the team, world beaters when we win a couple, and then jump off the cliff after a bad day at the office? Of course the squad needs strengthening but that will be the case ad finitium. We'll never reach the point where our squad is perfect in all areas. Instead of knee jerk reactions on isolated incidents, let's look at the bigger picture for once. This squad of players, and our manager, are bloody brilliant and the best we've had for decades. Life is good! Correct. Some 'blokes' on here need to take a long hard look at themselves. It's frankly laughable. Get a grip. Really?
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Post by metalhead on Mar 14, 2015 20:05:51 GMT
Agreed. Shit happens. Bad day.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 23:54:48 GMT
Yes. I aren't on about new players, I'm on about giving youngsters a chance, it's spelt out in there surely? I have accepted that.....I couldn't give a shit about the result....like I've said. I give a shit about pathways for decent young players being blocked by poor footballers. That's what is happening here. I've been calling for Shenton to start over Adam for weeks for instance! The list of players who need replacing always appears after a defeat, never after a win, it's expected. What I find interesting is that certain posters keep quiet when we do get a win, but are always prominent following a defeat. I assume the Manager was looking to start last weeks winning team, a policy which has got us to 8th in the division so far. Excellent post.
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 15, 2015 0:03:19 GMT
It was utterly shit but that's football it happens.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 15, 2015 0:10:06 GMT
The list of players who need replacing always appears after a defeat, never after a win, it's expected. What I find interesting is that certain posters keep quiet when we do get a win, but are always prominent following a defeat. I assume the Manager was looking to start last weeks winning team, a policy which has got us to 8th in the division so far. Excellent post. It's not though is it? Bayern has been saying that Cameron, Bardsley and Adam aren't good enough for ages and he's been saying it REGARDLESS of the result - win or lose and which, certainly doesn't make it a knee-jerk opinion, as you suggested in your OP.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 15, 2015 0:38:10 GMT
There's absolutely no need for the overreaction (again) after one dismal performance. I see people are writing players off again ( bayernoatcake) despite it being the same squad of players that took us to 8th, and won 3 on the bounce prior to today's match. Why is there always the need to declare players, or the team, world beaters when we win a couple, and then jump off the cliff after a bad day at the office? Of course the squad needs strengthening but that will be the case ad finitium. We'll never reach the point where our squad is perfect in all areas. Instead of knee jerk reactions on isolated incidents, let's look at the bigger picture for once. This squad of players, and our manager, are bloody brilliant and the best we've had for decades. Life is good! I got 6 pages of abuse for suggesting this week ago, so good luck.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 15, 2015 0:44:16 GMT
There's absolutely no need for the overreaction (again) after one dismal performance. I see people are writing players off again ( bayernoatcake) despite it being the same squad of players that took us to 8th, and won 3 on the bounce prior to today's match. Why is there always the need to declare players, or the team, world beaters when we win a couple, and then jump off the cliff after a bad day at the office? Of course the squad needs strengthening but that will be the case ad finitium. We'll never reach the point where our squad is perfect in all areas. Instead of knee jerk reactions on isolated incidents, let's look at the bigger picture for once. This squad of players, and our manager, are bloody brilliant and the best we've had for decades. Life is good! Didn't some Manc fan say about the same on a thread last week ? Yes and it went down really well with everyone, as they really appreciated the input from a 3rd party, who happened to support a different football team.
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 15, 2015 7:31:14 GMT
Bayern writes all players off that way he can't actually ever jump but look as if he did. He's like Claude from Arsenal. Harsh! The truth hurts....
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Post by Kjones9 on Mar 15, 2015 9:36:19 GMT
Bayerns football knowledge is based around twitter and football manager.
His over inflated self belief of said subject? God knows.
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Post by moaty on Mar 15, 2015 12:40:07 GMT
There's absolutely no need for the overreaction (again) after one dismal performance. I see people are writing players off again ( bayernoatcake) despite it being the same squad of players that took us to 8th, and won 3 on the bounce prior to today's match. Why is there always the need to declare players, or the team, world beaters when we win a couple, and then jump off the cliff after a bad day at the office? Of course the squad needs strengthening but that will be the case ad finitium. We'll never reach the point where our squad is perfect in all areas. Instead of knee jerk reactions on isolated incidents, let's look at the bigger picture for once. This squad of players, and our manager, are bloody brilliant and the best we've had for decades. Life is good! I think giving them a fucking holiday was a big mistake.
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Post by foster on Mar 15, 2015 12:45:19 GMT
Ryan comes back into the team and we lose.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 12:47:22 GMT
It's not though is it? Bayern has been saying that Cameron, Bardsley and Adam aren't good enough for ages and he's been saying it REGARDLESS of the result - win or lose and which, certainly doesn't make it a knee-jerk opinion, as you suggested in your OP. He stated we'd be in big trouble if Wilson played more than 10 games. He has, and we're 8th. He's been saying Cameron isn't good enough for ages yet he's a very good squad player. First choice RB last year when we finished 9th and he's played his part this season too, filling in across a few different positions. Not every player is "shit".
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2015 17:02:39 GMT
Bayerns football knowledge is based around twitter and football manager. His over inflated self belief of said subject? God knows. And playing the game since I was 4, living in a footballing family and having an ex professional footballer for a Dad but other than that it is just Twitter and Football Manager.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2015 17:05:52 GMT
It's not though is it? Bayern has been saying that Cameron, Bardsley and Adam aren't good enough for ages and he's been saying it REGARDLESS of the result - win or lose and which, certainly doesn't make it a knee-jerk opinion, as you suggested in your OP. He stated we'd be in big trouble if Wilson played more than 10 games. He has, and we're 8th. He's been saying Cameron isn't good enough for ages yet he's a very good squad player. First choice RB last year when we finished 9th and he's played his part this season too, filling in across a few different positions. Not every player is "shit". And until he was dropped we were in the shit (around October/November) then we started getting points. And Cameron isn't, he was dropped like a stone for his "performances" last year and he isn't a very good footballer. If it wasn't for the injuries he'd be nowhere this season, we have enough cover where he plays bar right back, he's lucky to still be here. No not every player is but I think Cameron is, he's a mighty fine athlete but he's an awfully shit footballer.
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Post by philb on Mar 15, 2015 17:10:49 GMT
Let's be honest 8th is the highest we can reasonably expect to achieve with these players unless we start paying millions for better replacements. Some people need a reality check. Yes we have some 'squad' players etc but with what we've spent we've done fantastic really and slagging players off when we're 8th in the league is nothing short of daft. End of.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2015 17:13:33 GMT
Let's be honest 8th is the highest we can reasonably expect to achieve with these players unless we start paying millions for better replacements. Some people need a reality check. Yes we have some 'squad' players etc but with what we've spent we've done fantastic really and slagging players off when we're 8th in the league is nothing short of daft. End of. We have better players now, in Cameron's case there five better centre backs, one better right back and three better central midfielders. We can do better, we have better now and Hughes will strive for better. Luckily he hasn't got your mentality.
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Post by sopendal on Mar 15, 2015 17:29:23 GMT
Tex should leave, and i would do as much as possible to do it asap. He pretty much wasted almost entire season here, not being used, but at the same time, not allowed to go on loan or transfer. Makes no sense at all! hope he can find a way how to get out of contract and go somewhere where he would be used. For god's sake, he is 22, what is the point of ruining your career by sitting on the bench for a year???
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2015 17:30:51 GMT
Tex should leave, and i would do as much as possible to do it asap. He pretty much wasted almost entire season here, not being used, but at the same time, not allowed to go on loan or transfer. Makes no sense at all! hope he can find a way how to get out of contract and go somewhere where he would be used. For god's sake, he is 22, what is the point of ruining your career by sitting on the bench for a year??? I agree (bar the leaving bit), I really don't get the strategy we have with him. He should have been loaned out already and should be higher in the pecking order than Cameron for centre back.
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Post by jackcity on Mar 15, 2015 20:06:04 GMT
We won the last three game we're as solid at the back as I've seen all season we lose one game and we are back to the blame game manager got it wrong some players had a bad day it happens in football sometimes fans get it wrong same players take the shit for it even when they play well move on another win and all will be forgiven you can be a villen one week and a hero the next
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 9:52:44 GMT
He stated we'd be in big trouble if Wilson played more than 10 games. He has, and we're 8th. He's been saying Cameron isn't good enough for ages yet he's a very good squad player. First choice RB last year when we finished 9th and he's played his part this season too, filling in across a few different positions. Not every player is "shit". And until he was dropped we were in the shit (around October/November) then we started getting points. And Cameron isn't, he was dropped like a stone for his "performances" last year and he isn't a very good footballer. If it wasn't for the injuries he'd be nowhere this season, we have enough cover where he plays bar right back, he's lucky to still be here. No not every player is but I think Cameron is, he's a mighty fine athlete but he's an awfully shit footballer. You're just not getting it are you? Or you're just refusing to acknowledge your error. He's played 25 games and we're having our best season in decades. Therefore your statement is absolute bollocks . There's absolutely no wriggle room on that one, no matter how much you avoid it.
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Post by metalhead on Mar 16, 2015 12:56:55 GMT
Bayerns football knowledge is based around twitter and football manager. His over inflated self belief of said subject? God knows. Don't you and him read from the same page.
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