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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 18:12:53 GMT
Sex with someone under the age of consent is generically called statutory rape. Might not be an official legal term, but in common speech. No its not. Sex with a person under the age of 13 is commonly known as statutory rape as there is no defence of consent as there age makes them unable to consent.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 2, 2015 18:15:01 GMT
Rooney to be charged for having sex with an underage women, she was only 52.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Mar 2, 2015 18:16:42 GMT
Pretty sure it is mate. Career is over really, unless he can prove conclusively that he's innocent. With the way the media has shifted it's priorities and where prejudices currently lie, even a false accusation is enough to destroy a life, a career etc. If there's any hint of truth to this, then he's as good as fucked. It's a shame because he's a talented player, but y'know, when you're in a privileged position, you should respect the life you've been able to live... If he's innocent, then he has a long road ahead to clear his name, one that Ched Evans is trying and struggling to pass. However if it's true, then it really is curtains for him. Let's not forget though, if he hadn't gone out to cheat on his girlfriend, he wouldn't be in this mess at all. Adultery may not be illegal, but it's morally wrong and he's only got himself to blame here if there's any truth to the accusation. Of course, right now, it's up to the police to actually decide whether there's any truth to this and take appropriate action. And if it is the law in this country is indeed an ass.
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Post by Billybigbollox on Mar 2, 2015 18:17:00 GMT
Fuck me he'll be doing bird with Gary Glitter if he goes down for that.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 2, 2015 18:17:00 GMT
Sex with someone under the age of consent is generically called statutory rape. Might not be an official legal term, but in common speech. No its not. Sex with a person under the age of 13 is commonly known as statutory rape as there is no defence of consent as there age makes them unable to consent. You do know the age of consent in the United Kingdom is 16 years of age don't you?
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Post by Linx on Mar 2, 2015 18:18:27 GMT
What happened to the last Sunderland player in the middle of a sex story shit storm? Oh, yeah.........
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Mar 2, 2015 18:19:41 GMT
No its not. Sex with a person under the age of 13 is commonly known as statutory rape as there is no defence of consent as there age makes them unable to consent. You do know the age of consent in the United Kingdom is 16 years of age don't you? And the law is an ass set by privileged pedophiles and tax dodgers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 18:22:49 GMT
No its not. Sex with a person under the age of 13 is commonly known as statutory rape as there is no defence of consent as there age makes them unable to consent. You do know the age of consent in the United Kingdom is 16 years of age don't you? Jesus Christ....you are wrong okay. Deal with it. The Sexual Offences Act creates a number of offences. If you have sexual intercourse with someone who does not consent that is rape regardless of age. If you have sexual intercourse with someone under 16, but it is consensual, you commit an offence of sexual activity with a child (and possibly other related offences). If you have consensual sex with someone under 13 it is rape - statute defines it as rape as the person is not old enough to give consent hence the term 'statutory rape.' Is that okay for you now?
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Post by salopstick on Mar 2, 2015 18:23:28 GMT
No its not. Sex with a person under the age of 13 is commonly known as statutory rape as there is no defence of consent as there age makes them unable to consent. You do know the age of consent in the United Kingdom is 16 years of age don't you? i believe it's as follows The age of consent is 16 however the law says 15 and 14 year olds are mature enough to consent although it's still illegal. The law says 13 and under are not mature enough to consent
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Post by metalhead on Mar 2, 2015 18:24:46 GMT
Pretty sure it is mate. Career is over really, unless he can prove conclusively that he's innocent. With the way the media has shifted it's priorities and where prejudices currently lie, even a false accusation is enough to destroy a life, a career etc. If there's any hint of truth to this, then he's as good as fucked. It's a shame because he's a talented player, but y'know, when you're in a privileged position, you should respect the life you've been able to live... If he's innocent, then he has a long road ahead to clear his name, one that Ched Evans is trying and struggling to pass. However if it's true, then it really is curtains for him. Let's not forget though, if he hadn't gone out to cheat on his girlfriend, he wouldn't be in this mess at all. Adultery may not be illegal, but it's morally wrong and he's only got himself to blame here if there's any truth to the accusation. Of course, right now, it's up to the police to actually decide whether there's any truth to this and take appropriate action. And if it is the law in this country is indeed an ass. I have no idea how to take that mate. Are you saying that sex with a girl under the age of 16 should be legal? How about making it under the age of the 13? How about changing the law to say "If there's grass on the pitch play ball, if there isn't, well it'll be too late by the time you find out"? You really need to think about what you're saying here buddy. It's a sensitive subject for all. Many on here have kids, many on here have daughters, if he's slept with a 14 year old girl, then it's absolutely outrageous and he needs punishing. I appreciate there's a lot of people who will argue "oh well, what if the girl went into a nightclub under age all slutty and went out of her way to pull him", well he should have used his fucking head because it's very difficult for a girl that age to really look anything other than underage jailbait.....
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Post by Billybigbollox on Mar 2, 2015 18:26:16 GMT
You do know the age of consent in the United Kingdom is 16 years of age don't you? Jesus Christ....you are wrong okay. Deal with it. The Sexual Offences Act creates a number of offences. If you have sexual intercourse with someone who does not consent that is rape regardless of age. If you have sexual intercourse with someone under 16, but it is consensual, you commit an offence of sexual activity with a child (and possibly other related offences). If you have consensual sex with someone under 13 it is rape - statute defines it as rape as the person is not old enough to give consent hence the term 'statutory rape.' Is that okay for you now? Theloony is right.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Mar 2, 2015 18:33:40 GMT
And if it is the law in this country is indeed an ass. I have no idea how to take that mate. Are you saying that sex with a girl under the age of 16 should be legal? How about making it under the age of the 13? How about changing the law to say "If there's grass on the pitch play ball, if there isn't, well it'll be too late by the time you find out"? You really need to think about what you're saying here buddy. It's a sensitive subject for all. Many on here have kids, many on here have daughters, if he's slept with a 14 year old girl, then it's absolutely outrageous and he needs punishing. I appreciate there's a lot of people who will argue "oh well, what if the girl went into a nightclub under age all slutty and went out of her way to pull him", well he should have used his fucking head because it's very difficult for a girl that age to really look anything other than underage jailbait..... Because, if hypothetically, you take your girlfriend out for her sixteenth birthday on the Sunday, because you can't do the Monday, which is when she actually turns sixteen. Then all goes well, and at one minute to midnight, you begin having sex, you are punishable by prison, and if you had waited a minute, you have done nothing wrong. In many parts of Europe the age of consent is lower.
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 2, 2015 18:35:21 GMT
It would not surprise me at all to find out he picked her up in the VIP Section of some club where she has managed to look older and get in. Getting laid is an absolute minefield these days How would you know
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 2, 2015 18:37:13 GMT
You do know the age of consent in the United Kingdom is 16 years of age don't you? Jesus Christ....you are wrong okay. Deal with it. The Sexual Offences Act creates a number of offences. If you have sexual intercourse with someone who does not consent that is rape regardless of age. If you have sexual intercourse with someone under 16, but it is consensual, you commit an offence of sexual activity with a child (and possibly other related offences). If you have consensual sex with someone under 13 it is rape - statute defines it as rape as the person is not old enough to give consent hence the term 'statutory rape.' Is that okay for you now? Cheers QC I'm not a lawyer, so as I said, was being generic. "Convicted sexual activist with children Adam Johnson" it is then.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 2, 2015 18:37:35 GMT
You do know the age of consent in the United Kingdom is 16 years of age don't you? Jesus Christ....you are wrong okay. Deal with it. The Sexual Offences Act creates a number of offences. If you have sexual intercourse with someone who does not consent that is rape regardless of age. If you have sexual intercourse with someone under 16, but it is consensual, you commit an offence of sexual activity with a child (and possibly other related offences). If you have consensual sex with someone under 13 it is rape - statute defines it as rape as the person is not old enough to give consent hence the term 'statutory rape.' Is that okay for you now? Anyone would think you were a lawyer
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 2, 2015 18:38:35 GMT
The dirty bastard
Cant wait for the chants coming at the Sunderland v Newcastle derby in April......
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Post by metalhead on Mar 2, 2015 18:41:04 GMT
I have no idea how to take that mate. Are you saying that sex with a girl under the age of 16 should be legal? How about making it under the age of the 13? How about changing the law to say "If there's grass on the pitch play ball, if there isn't, well it'll be too late by the time you find out"? You really need to think about what you're saying here buddy. It's a sensitive subject for all. Many on here have kids, many on here have daughters, if he's slept with a 14 year old girl, then it's absolutely outrageous and he needs punishing. I appreciate there's a lot of people who will argue "oh well, what if the girl went into a nightclub under age all slutty and went out of her way to pull him", well he should have used his fucking head because it's very difficult for a girl that age to really look anything other than underage jailbait..... Because, if hypothetically, you take your girlfriend out for her sixteenth birthday on the Sunday, because you can't do the Monday, which is when she actually turns sixteen. Then all goes well, and at one minute to midnight, you begin having sex, you are punishable by prison, and if you had waited a minute, you have done nothing wrong. In many parts of Europe the age of consent is lower. Hypothetically, if such an incident took place, you've got almost no chance of it holding up in court. For one, you'd have to prove the actual time that intercourse took place. Imagine doing that eh? You really think one of them knows the exact moment in which... well, it went in there? Come on mate, be serious. I'll be very surprised if that was the case buddy.
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Post by haway on Mar 2, 2015 18:45:26 GMT
Fucking disgraceful if true, I hope the club terminate his contract if he is proven guilty.
Disgusting.
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Post by whereami on Mar 2, 2015 18:46:07 GMT
And if it is the law in this country is indeed an ass. I have no idea how to take that mate. Are you saying that sex with a girl under the age of 16 should be legal? How about making it under the age of the 13? How about changing the law to say "If there's grass on the pitch play ball, if there isn't, well it'll be too late by the time you find out"? You really need to think about what you're saying here buddy. It's a sensitive subject for all. Many on here have kids, many on here have daughters, if he's slept with a 14 year old girl, then it's absolutely outrageous and he needs punishing. I appreciate there's a lot of people who will argue "oh well, what if the girl went into a nightclub under age all slutty and went out of her way to pull him", well he should have used his fucking head because it's very difficult for a girl that age to really look anything other than underage jailbait..... Devils advocate here, but look at it the other way - she could have been 15 years and 360 days old, 5 days short of her 16th birthday when she'd become "legal" and we wouldn't hear anything about it. Liam Lawrence was known to have double teamed a 16 year old girl when he was at Sunderland, if not for the arbitrary line drawn in the sand at being 5840 days old he could have destroyed his career too, and aside from a month or 2, is what he/they did any better?* *obviously pending the details of this situation with Johnson now Just to be clear I'm not sticking up for Johnson here, 16 is fine for other teenagers but no man over 20 should be doing anything with a girl that young (as in 16) imo. In the face of a tabloid bait story like this though, where they're all gonna be wanking themselves into a morally dubious repressed frenzy, I think its best not to rise to the obvious bait
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 18:47:19 GMT
The age of consent varies widely. It can be from 14 to 18 and in law include adults too. Thats got your heads scratching hasn't it.
Have a google ....
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Post by Billybigbollox on Mar 2, 2015 18:47:32 GMT
Because, if hypothetically, you take your girlfriend out for her sixteenth birthday on the Sunday, because you can't do the Monday, which is when she actually turns sixteen. Then all goes well, and at one minute to midnight, you begin having sex, you are punishable by prison, and if you had waited a minute, you have done nothing wrong. In many parts of Europe the age of consent is lower. Hypothetically, if such an incident took place, you've got almost no chance of it holding up in court. For one, you'd have to prove the actual time that intercourse took place. Imagine doing that eh? You really think one of them knows the exact moment in which... well, it went in there? Come on mate, be serious. I'll be very surprised if that was the case buddy. I could start having sex at 11.59 and be finished and snoring by midnight. Fuck my luck
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Post by metalhead on Mar 2, 2015 18:49:38 GMT
I have no idea how to take that mate. Are you saying that sex with a girl under the age of 16 should be legal? How about making it under the age of the 13? How about changing the law to say "If there's grass on the pitch play ball, if there isn't, well it'll be too late by the time you find out"? You really need to think about what you're saying here buddy. It's a sensitive subject for all. Many on here have kids, many on here have daughters, if he's slept with a 14 year old girl, then it's absolutely outrageous and he needs punishing. I appreciate there's a lot of people who will argue "oh well, what if the girl went into a nightclub under age all slutty and went out of her way to pull him", well he should have used his fucking head because it's very difficult for a girl that age to really look anything other than underage jailbait..... Devils advocate here, but look at it the other way - she could have been 15 years and 360 days old, 5 days short of her 16th birthday when she'd become "legal" and we wouldn't hear anything about it. Liam Lawrence was known to have double teamed a 16 year old girl when he was at Sunderland, if not for the arbitrary line drawn in the sand at being 5840 days old is that any better* *obviously pending the details of this Just to be clear I'm not sticking up for Johnson here, 16 is fine for other teenagers but no man over 20 should be doing anything with a girl that young (as in 16) imo. In the face of a tabloid bait story like this though, where they're all gonna be wanking themselves into a morally dubious repressed frenzy, I think its best not to rise to the obvious bait Mate, 16 is the line and we've had the rule in place for a long time, and for me, it's there to protect young girls and boys from harm. Whether it's arbitrary or not, is up to those in the law. You'll find that 15 year olds who turn 16 while their girlfriend is 15 and continue to have sex, are almost NEVER prosecuted for it. So there you go, the arbitrary line in that case isn't so set in stone is it. This is a 27 year old man, potentially shagging a 15 year old girl... I know Liam did it, and to be fair, I always thought it was pretty sickening when people used to joke about it while he played for us, but by law, he did nothing wrong, whether that's morally acceptable or not isn't up to me is it?
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Mar 2, 2015 18:50:26 GMT
The age of consent varies widely. It can be from 14 to 18 and in law include adults too. Thats got your heads scratching hasn't it. Have a google .... 13 even mate and that's in Europe.
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Post by Linx on Mar 2, 2015 18:50:56 GMT
Hypothetically, if such an incident took place, you've got almost no chance of it holding up in court. For one, you'd have to prove the actual time that intercourse took place. Imagine doing that eh? You really think one of them knows the exact moment in which... well, it went in there? Come on mate, be serious. I'll be very surprised if that was the case buddy. I could start having sex at 11.59 and be finished and snoring by midnight. Fuck my luck I wish I had your staying power, billy
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Mar 2, 2015 18:55:28 GMT
Because, if hypothetically, you take your girlfriend out for her sixteenth birthday on the Sunday, because you can't do the Monday, which is when she actually turns sixteen. Then all goes well, and at one minute to midnight, you begin having sex, you are punishable by prison, and if you had waited a minute, you have done nothing wrong. In many parts of Europe the age of consent is lower. Hypothetically, if such an incident took place, you've got almost no chance of it holding up in court. For one, you'd have to prove the actual time that intercourse took place. Imagine doing that eh? You really think one of them knows the exact moment in which... well, it went in there? Come on mate, be serious. I'll be very surprised if that was the case buddy. Like I said it is hypothetical, but it could happen under UK law, and probably does in practice every weekend. The law is an ass, and this country is on its knees.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 2, 2015 18:55:38 GMT
The age of consent varies widely. It can be from 14 to 18 and in law include adults too. Thats got your heads scratching hasn't it. Have a google .... 13 even mate and that's in Europe. I see ISIS have set it at 9. But all this is irrelevant. You can't look around the world and pick and choose where to pitch the line when you are in this country. The law in the UK says the line is set at 16 and any adult who can't manage to stay on the right side of it, deserves whatever grief he (or she) gets.
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Post by slother on Mar 2, 2015 18:55:50 GMT
How old is Bojan?
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 2, 2015 18:56:34 GMT
Jesus Christ....you are wrong okay. Deal with it. The Sexual Offences Act creates a number of offences. If you have sexual intercourse with someone who does not consent that is rape regardless of age. If you have sexual intercourse with someone under 16, but it is consensual, you commit an offence of sexual activity with a child (and possibly other related offences). If you have consensual sex with someone under 13 it is rape - statute defines it as rape as the person is not old enough to give consent hence the term 'statutory rape.' Is that okay for you now? Cheers QC I'm not a lawyer, so as I said, was being generic. "Convicted sexual activist with children Adam Johnson" it is then. Can't we just agree on 'nonce' ?
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Mar 2, 2015 18:56:59 GMT
I could start having sex at 11.59 and be finished and snoring by midnight. Fuck my luck I wish I had your staying power, billy Under UK law, according to those who know on here, you would be a rapist.
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Post by slother on Mar 2, 2015 18:57:55 GMT
"He's hit that far too early for me, Clive"
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