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Post by countofmontecristo on Jan 27, 2015 20:12:02 GMT
Either your on the wind or your simply a prick. If your on the wind, your still a prick. Good try fella SGS Oh you think? Perhaps some of us like to be realistic. As I stated, there is no room for sentimentality in football. We aren't in the lower leagues now, we're not playing Walsall etc any more. He's been fantastic for us but now he's a lame duck. It's a bad situation but he is of no use to us any more. I'm not going to be emotional about it, that is football and that's how it is. We've other players and we'll be ok. It's not the 1970's mate! Plenty of players have made a full recovery from ACL surgery since the early 1990's. No need to be so downbeat at this stage - chin up and all that!
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 27, 2015 20:13:33 GMT
At least we'll hold on to him next season as he will now be out of the spotlight. We need to get busy in this window, even though Bojan is irreplaceable We need to get rid of him now. I'm sorry. Obviously we can't until at least this time next year but he is useless to us now, and he will never recapture his form. It'll be a different team in a years' time, he'll be starting from scratch having been out of the game for a year. Get rid, get someone else. I hate you with every fibre of my being.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 27, 2015 20:13:46 GMT
Jeez and we were so close to finally getting to see this ...
Arnie---Bojan---Moses
---------Diouf-----------
I suppose it's quite possible that we won't actually ever get to see it now.
Sigh ...
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Post by thehoof on Jan 27, 2015 20:16:23 GMT
Ricky, Gascoigne had an even worse injury-he had a pretty good Euro' in 96 though did'nt he? He may not be as good when he comes back, but there is no basis in fact for your pessimism.
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Post by RAF on Jan 27, 2015 20:17:52 GMT
Aaron Ramsey died and had his leg amputated and he's alright now, stop being a bunch of fucking handbag swinging women.
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Post by stokeramblers on Jan 27, 2015 20:18:05 GMT
At least we'll hold on to him next season as he will now be out of the spotlight. We need to get busy in this window, even though Bojan is irreplaceable We need to get rid of him now. I'm sorry. Obviously we can't until at least this time next year but he is useless to us now, and he will never recapture his form. It'll be a different team in a years' time, he'll be starting from scratch having been out of the game for a year. Get rid, get someone else. What a fruitcake!!!
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Post by Bowyer83 on Jan 27, 2015 20:18:34 GMT
We need to get rid of him now. I'm sorry. Obviously we can't until at least this time next year but he is useless to us now, and he will never recapture his form. It'll be a different team in a years' time, he'll be starting from scratch having been out of the game for a year. Get rid, get someone else. I hate you with every fibre of my being. He hant got a clue Mack!
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Post by hartzchoco on Jan 27, 2015 20:18:45 GMT
some of the shite people are posting here is berserk! This place really does feed on misery....like a wrist slashers paradise, get a grip you bunch of cranks You're a romantic bastard, I'll give you that.
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Post by Ayupshag on Jan 27, 2015 20:19:12 GMT
Fuck me sideways. What's wrong with some of you lot?? It's an injury. They happen. The player returns just as good as before. Thank fuck we're not in the trenches cos some of you lot would wave the white flag as soon as the first shot was fired.
Get a grip
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Post by cozmick on Jan 27, 2015 20:20:05 GMT
I don't understand how he thought he could carry on last night if the injury was so bad
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 27, 2015 20:21:37 GMT
I don't understand how he thought he could carry on last night if the injury was so bad Adrenaline, I snapped my collarbone after I got tripped up running with the ball at full pelt and I played on for a few minutes until the pain hit me like a bastard sledgehammer.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 27, 2015 20:23:36 GMT
What the actual fuck have I just read?? You've read a realistic, non-sentimental assessment of the brutal reality of the situation Bojan finds himself in. Nothing more, nothing less. Strip the emotional stuff out of it and that's what you have.
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Post by Beardy200 on Jan 27, 2015 20:24:23 GMT
I don't understand how he thought he could carry on last night if the injury was so bad Make up a conspiracy then. It seems to be very popular recently ;)
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 27, 2015 20:25:16 GMT
I hate you with every fibre of my being. I'm sure you do. Someone has to tell the brutal truth. And if you red my earlier post, yes in a way I hate myself for having to say it. But it is the likely reality.
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Post by stokiemarc on Jan 27, 2015 20:25:34 GMT
I played half an hour on a broken ankle, I 'ran it off' only to be in agony 5 mins after coming off.
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Post by Beardy200 on Jan 27, 2015 20:26:14 GMT
What the actual fuck have I just read?? You've read a realistic, non-sentimental assessment of the brutal reality of the situation Bojan finds himself in. Nothing more, nothing less. Strip the emotional stuff out of it and that's what you have. But you're saying he's fucked with nothing to back it up. Loads of players come back from ACL injuries.
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Post by stokeramblers on Jan 27, 2015 20:26:55 GMT
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Post by Davef on Jan 27, 2015 20:26:58 GMT
What the actual fuck have I just read?? You've read a realistic, non-sentimental assessment of the brutal reality of the situation Bojan finds himself in. Nothing more, nothing less. Strip the emotional stuff out of it and that's what you have. It's a load of old shit though and something that never has and never will happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 20:27:09 GMT
There's only 1 winner out of all this. Misty.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 27, 2015 20:30:05 GMT
I have only read the last couple of pages of this thread since I heard the news. I really cannot understand how anybody could write him off as of today. The real tragedy is his, rather than Stokes; by which I mean that although I am desperately sad for Stoke City, I am actually more concerned about him. It must be devastating for him to have been a bit of an outcast for a couple of years and then to finally play at a club where he is adored and is rekindling the sort of reputation that he enjoyed when he was younger, before suffering an injury like this. For my part, I will continue to hope that he gets back to full fitness and that he even comes back stronger. I see no point in being a pessimist; we have no idea how well or poorly he will recover. I'm sure that this has been said in earlier posts, but we should sing his name, let him know that we are thinking of him and that we want him back. In short, we should make him feel as wanted as we have done this far. We nursed Rory Delap back to become a player who we would have been relegated without; we can do the same with Bojan. He obviously has the strength of character to overcome this; we should just support him in his endeavours to do so. And on a side note; lets get the remaining points as fast as possible!!! Nobody's said we shouldn't support him or help him or do anything we can for him, but when he's fit again he won't be as good and he certainly won't fit into what will by then be an entirely different team, unless you think Hughes is daft enough to leave things exactly as they are ready for Bojan to return. You can't just pick up where you left off, it takes time, Stoke don't have that time, or the money, so when he's fit, get rid and get someone else. Let him sort out his rehabilitation / not-being-really-all-that-good-because-he-hasn't-played-for-a-year elsewhere while we bring in someone as good or better as he has been recently for us. Sorry, I'm not going to pretend it's pleasant but we are playing at the top level now. Arsenal had the money to be able to carry Ramsey for years until he was eventually back to where he should be, if we do that it means we lack someone decent while it's all going on because we can't afford it. He's finished for us. Let's remember the good times, and move on.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 27, 2015 20:31:11 GMT
I hate you with every fibre of my being. I'm sure you do. Someone has to tell the brutal truth. And if you red my earlier post, yes in a way I hate myself for having to say it. But it is the likely reality. The brutal truth isn't discarding a footballer like a lame animal the moment they get injured, if that was the case then why bother having physio's and medical teams, we could just save time and fuck them off like a used jizzrag. It's impossible for us to sign another player even close to Bojan for the price we got him for, so even if the club was to follow your idiotic view and release him, his replacement would be sub-par and expensive. "There's no sentimentality in football" you said, well there clearly isn't from you, as for the rest of us, we'll support our most influential player this season like oh I don't know, an actual fucking fan.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 20:31:18 GMT
He will get the best care anyone could ask for and I have no doubt he will be back in time for pre-season if not before.
Best wishes Bojan get well soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 20:33:51 GMT
I'm sure you do. Someone has to tell the brutal truth. And if you red my earlier post, yes in a way I hate myself for having to say it. But it is the likely reality. The brutal truth isn't discarding a footballer like a lame animal the moment they get injured, if that was the case then why bother having physio's and medical teams, we could just save time and fuck them off like a used jizzrag. It's impossible for us to sign another player even close to Bojan for the price we got him for, so even if the club was to follow your idiotic view and release him, his replacement would be sub-par and expensive. "There's no sentimentality in football" you said, well there clearly isn't from you, as for the rest of us, we'll support our most influential player this season like oh I don't know, an actual fucking fan. Ignore him absolute fuckwit.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 27, 2015 20:35:41 GMT
The brutal truth isn't discarding a footballer like a lame animal the moment they get injured, if that was the case then why bother having physio's and medical teams, we could just save time and fuck them off like a used jizzrag. It's impossible for us to sign another player even close to Bojan for the price we got him for, so even if the club was to follow your idiotic view and release him, his replacement would be sub-par and expensive. "There's no sentimentality in football" you said, well there clearly isn't from you, as for the rest of us, we'll support our most influential player this season like oh I don't know, an actual fucking fan. I never said don't support him, or treat him like a lame animal. Quite the opposite. But when he is fit again, it will quickly be clear that his road to recovering his previous brilliance is only just starting, and there's no actual guarantee of success. That is not a player we can afford to have at Stoke. It's not his fault, but at that point he needs a fresh start, and so will we. The alternative is the soul destroying prospect of seeing him struggle to recapture his previous form, which mentally will be distressing for him if it isn't working out. Selling him will be the best for both club and player. Of course, I'd love to be proved wrong and I'll personally revive this thread in a year if he's brilliant again. I sincerely hope that that is the case.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 27, 2015 20:36:11 GMT
The poor bloke has just been told he's got 6 months out after just recapturing his form and giving us some of the best moments since promotion. I don't give a shit about "no room for sentimentality in football". Get behind the lad and have some bloody faith.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 27, 2015 20:37:52 GMT
The brutal truth isn't discarding a footballer like a lame animal the moment they get injured, if that was the case then why bother having physio's and medical teams, we could just save time and fuck them off like a used jizzrag. It's impossible for us to sign another player even close to Bojan for the price we got him for, so even if the club was to follow your idiotic view and release him, his replacement would be sub-par and expensive. "There's no sentimentality in football" you said, well there clearly isn't from you, as for the rest of us, we'll support our most influential player this season like oh I don't know, an actual fucking fan. I never said don't support him, or treat him like a lame animal. Quite the opposite. But when he is fit again, it will quickly be clear that his road to recovering his previous brilliance is only just starting, and there's no actual guarantee of success. That is not a player we can afford to have at Stoke. It's not his fault, but at that point he needs a fresh start, and so will we. The alternative is the soul destroying prospect of seeing him struggle to recapture his previous form, which mentally will be distressing for him if it isn't working out. Selling him will be the best for both club and player. Of course, I'd love to be proved wrong and I'll personally revive this thread in a year if he's brilliant again. I sincerely hope that that is the case. We're one of the worlds 30 richest football clubs, so in the grand scheme of things, we can afford to keep Bojan. A few grand in medical bills or at least £15 million on a replacement? Exactly.
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Post by stokeramblers on Jan 27, 2015 20:38:58 GMT
The brutal truth isn't discarding a footballer like a lame animal the moment they get injured, if that was the case then why bother having physio's and medical teams, we could just save time and fuck them off like a used jizzrag. It's impossible for us to sign another player even close to Bojan for the price we got him for, so even if the club was to follow your idiotic view and release him, his replacement would be sub-par and expensive. "There's no sentimentality in football" you said, well there clearly isn't from you, as for the rest of us, we'll support our most influential player this season like oh I don't know, an actual fucking fan. I never said don't support him, or treat him like a lame animal. Quite the opposite. But when he is fit again, it will quickly be clear that his road to recovering his previous brilliance is only just starting, and there's no actual guarantee of success. That is not a player we can afford to have at Stoke. It's not his fault, but at that point he needs a fresh start, and so will we. The alternative is the soul destroying prospect of seeing him struggle to recapture his previous form, which mentally will be distressing for him if it isn't working out. Selling him will be the best for both club and player. Of course, I'd love to be proved wrong and I'll personally revive this thread in a year if he's brilliant again. I sincerely hope that that is the case. And what if we'd taken that sort of decision with Ricardo Fuller or Rory Delap...? You're talking absolute poppycock.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 27, 2015 20:39:43 GMT
The poor bloke has just been told he's got 6 months out after just recapturing his form and giving us some of the best moments since promotion. I don't give a shit about "no room for sentimentality in football". Get behind the lad and have some bloody faith. There's nothing wrong with faith of course - but it's not terribly tangible. The only tangible thing is - we have absolutely no guarantee that he can return to the team and recapture his previous brilliance. With this injury, somce certainly do, but many others do not, or at least not with the same club, because the team moves on in that time and they get left behind, faced with a combination of old and new. At that point, a fresh start is probably better for him, and us. I don't expect many to agree with me and that's just a fact of life and a fact of football but let's see who's right and who's wrong in 12 months - and I do hope it's me that's wrong.
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Post by hartzchoco on Jan 27, 2015 20:42:18 GMT
Try and keep the negative shit off here, at least for today. The kid is an absolute fan favorite, and a lot of us are gutted by this. We come on here, talk about it, joke a little, it's therapeutic. It's like a fucking support group. Stop pissing in our grits.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 20:43:26 GMT
This is a great pity and I hope he's able to pick up his career again afterwards. However - and this is not going to be a popular view so I'm prepared for the inevitable flames - there is no room for sentimentality in football. Players that suffer these type of long term injuries rarely recapture the form they had immediately prior to the injury. Once he's recovered, this time next year we should sell him before he becomes an out of form, expensive millstone. I know, that's horrible, and it brings a tear to my eye even typing it, but I am afraid that's the harsh reality. He's been brilliant for us but he's damged goods now. Forget him, get rid of him, and move on. (I apologise profusely for that post which is one of the worst I've ever had to type on here.) what the fuck am i reading come on mate he's a wind up merchant, maybe a spammer. A full recovery is usually made from this sort of injury
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