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Post by kinetic on Jan 21, 2015 9:49:56 GMT
I really don't know how they dare check this guy Abdul Qadeer Baksh leader of Luton central Mosque he thinks Eric Pickles letter to all mosques about rooting out terrorist was un called for. This is a guy who's mosque has been used to train terrorist for decades 7/7 bombers picked their bombs up from there. Stockholm bomber was radicalised there. Oh did I say he was head of a fait school ?? That was slammed by Ofsted ??? Always the victims.
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Post by boothenpaddock86 on Jan 22, 2015 15:38:01 GMT
if you read my posts I do not have apathy,I believe the majority of these attacks are completely fake or set up.you've obviously formed your opinions form the Zionist controlled media and not personal experience.all msm is controlled that's why you never get the truth.it's their agenda to take control of the world's reresources demonizing Muslims is perfect for them as most of the world's resources are in Muslim countries Really??..... I mean really are you being serious? I can accept that parts of our press are censored, I can also accept that politicians lie to us. To think the majority of these attacks and everything else going on in North Africa the middle east and also the east is one big conspiracy theory by the new world order is just insane. These people have an ideology, there normal young european/Muslim children going over there to join them, there the ones making martyrs of themselves by being willing to lay down there lives for an ideology they belive in. Belive me nobody from the NWO headquarters in Denvor USA gave these people a quick phonecall. I bet you belive we didn't land on the moon, roswell, we're controlled by the zog who in turn are controlled by extraterrestrials etc. You have a problem facing the obvious and feel the need to question every single thing you're told by the press or government. Sometimes the truth is quite obvious if you use common sense. I belive these people are simply brainwashed fanatics and want to destroy the world that does not share there beliefs untill there the only ones left, make the world Muslim. Deadly serious the first objective of the nwo is to take control of the world's resources oil/gas etc just so happens most are in the middle east.A free press is a fallacy these days NO msn organization can publish what they want its all controlled. think people need to integrate more with Muslims and find out what nice people they really are,every race/religion has good and bad.as for the hoaxes done in the name of Islam it is up to you to do you to do your own research and trust your own conclusions .governments/media are collaborating together so do expect a clear picture
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Post by kinetic on Jan 22, 2015 18:37:39 GMT
Really??..... I mean really are you being serious? I can accept that parts of our press are censored, I can also accept that politicians lie to us. To think the majority of these attacks and everything else going on in North Africa the middle east and also the east is one big conspiracy theory by the new world order is just insane. These people have an ideology, there normal young european/Muslim children going over there to join them, there the ones making martyrs of themselves by being willing to lay down there lives for an ideology they belive in. Belive me nobody from the NWO headquarters in Denvor USA gave these people a quick phonecall. I bet you belive we didn't land on the moon, roswell, we're controlled by the zog who in turn are controlled by extraterrestrials etc. You have a problem facing the obvious and feel the need to question every single thing you're told by the press or government. Sometimes the truth is quite obvious if you use common sense. I belive these people are simply brainwashed fanatics and want to destroy the world that does not share there beliefs untill there the only ones left, make the world Muslim. Deadly serious the first objective of the nwo is to take control of the world's resources oil/gas etc just so happens most are in the middle east.A free press is a fallacy these days NO msn organization can publish what they want its all controlled. think people need to integrate more with Muslims and find out what nice people they really are,every race/religion has good and bad.as for the hoaxes done in the name of Islam it is up to you to do you to do your own research and trust your own conclusions .governments/media are collaborating together so do expect a clear picture Most of the Worlds resources are in Christian African country's that are being over run by Islamic fundamentalists but never mind. Integrate with the peaceful Muslims look I went Brownhills high school it was 50% Muslim 50% non Muslim back in the 90s. We did integrate wasn't returned though. Had riot police in on dinner breaks Muslim parents taking their kids out of school and shipping them back off to Pakistan for arranged marriages, due to the fact they had been found out dating non Muslim girls at school I could go on and on, never trust what you see with your eyes though Chris Spivey David Icke and the likes will be a lot more reliable form of information. Only 2ys ago we have 4 ex pupils of Brownhills all over the national news as they had been planning to blow up nightclubs in Stoke-on-Trent and co conspiring with a cell in London to attack the City. They interviewed the 4 lads from Brownhills on Central news a good 4 to 5yr before their fucked up plan came to light. Guess what all denied being fanatics !!! Just good Muslim boys and anti terror had got the wrong end of the stick. How about the boys up Tunstall as well raising funds in the Mosques of Tunstall to set up a Jihad training camp in Pakistan. They were fund raising in the Mosque all the fucking community knew any of them ring the Police ?? Nah dont be silly. Get yaself over Saudi Arabia and tell them how you come in peace
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 22, 2015 21:28:06 GMT
Really??..... I mean really are you being serious? I can accept that parts of our press are censored, I can also accept that politicians lie to us. To think the majority of these attacks and everything else going on in North Africa the middle east and also the east is one big conspiracy theory by the new world order is just insane. These people have an ideology, there normal young european/Muslim children going over there to join them, there the ones making martyrs of themselves by being willing to lay down there lives for an ideology they belive in. Belive me nobody from the NWO headquarters in Denvor USA gave these people a quick phonecall. I bet you belive we didn't land on the moon, roswell, we're controlled by the zog who in turn are controlled by extraterrestrials etc. You have a problem facing the obvious and feel the need to question every single thing you're told by the press or government. Sometimes the truth is quite obvious if you use common sense. I belive these people are simply brainwashed fanatics and want to destroy the world that does not share there beliefs untill there the only ones left, make the world Muslim. Deadly serious the first objective of the nwo is to take control of the world's resources oil/gas etc just so happens most are in the middle east.A free press is a fallacy these days NO msn organization can publish what they want its all controlled. think people need to integrate more with Muslims and find out what nice people they really are,every race/religion has good and bad.as for the hoaxes done in the name of Islam it is up to you to do you to do your own research and trust your own conclusions .governments/media are collaborating together so do expect a clear picture Yea man are you taking prescription drugs or non ? NWO , take a look on you tube three things you probably did not know about the Quran, do some research and trust a muslims conclusion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 21:59:10 GMT
Deadly serious the first objective of the nwo is to take control of the world's resources oil/gas etc just so happens most are in the middle east.A free press is a fallacy these days NO msn organization can publish what they want its all controlled. think people need to integrate more with Muslims and find out what nice people they really are,every race/religion has good and bad.as for the hoaxes done in the name of Islam it is up to you to do you to do your own research and trust your own conclusions .governments/media are collaborating together so do expect a clear picture Most of the Worlds resources are in Christian African country's that are being over run by Islamic fundamentalists but never mind. Integrate with the peaceful Muslims look I went Brownhills high school it was 50% Muslim 50% non Muslim back in the 90s. We did integrate wasn't returned though. Had riot police in on dinner breaks Muslim parents taking their kids out of school and shipping them back off to Pakistan for arranged marriages, due to the fact they had been found out dating non Muslim girls at school I could go on and on, never trust what you see with your eyes though Chris Spivey David Icke and the likes will be a lot more reliable form of information. Only 2ys ago we have 4 ex pupils of Brownhills all over the national news as they had been planning to blow up nightclubs in Stoke-on-Trent and co conspiring with a cell in London to attack the City. They interviewed the 4 lads from Brownhills on Central news a good 4 to 5yr before their fucked up plan came to light. Guess what all denied being fanatics !!! Just good Muslim boys and anti terror had got the wrong end of the stick. How about the boys up Tunstall as well raising funds in the Mosques of Tunstall to set up a Jihad training camp in Pakistan. They were fund raising in the Mosque all the fucking community knew any of them ring the Police ?? Nah dont be silly. Get yaself over Saudi Arabia and tell them how you come in peace I must admit I'm quite shocked and appalled by your revelations but dare say I'm not surprised . I can't quite comprehend the sheer numbers or tactics involved by those you mention in your post. i congratulate you for making us exiles aware of what has and is going on . I amazed at the Cities sad demise since I left it. Suffice to say , it doesn't feel like 'home' anymore.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 22, 2015 22:11:29 GMT
Most of the Worlds resources are in Christian African country's that are being over run by Islamic fundamentalists but never mind. Integrate with the peaceful Muslims look I went Brownhills high school it was 50% Muslim 50% non Muslim back in the 90s. We did integrate wasn't returned though. Had riot police in on dinner breaks Muslim parents taking their kids out of school and shipping them back off to Pakistan for arranged marriages, due to the fact they had been found out dating non Muslim girls at school I could go on and on, never trust what you see with your eyes though Chris Spivey David Icke and the likes will be a lot more reliable form of information. Only 2ys ago we have 4 ex pupils of Brownhills all over the national news as they had been planning to blow up nightclubs in Stoke-on-Trent and co conspiring with a cell in London to attack the City. They interviewed the 4 lads from Brownhills on Central news a good 4 to 5yr before their fucked up plan came to light. Guess what all denied being fanatics !!! Just good Muslim boys and anti terror had got the wrong end of the stick. How about the boys up Tunstall as well raising funds in the Mosques of Tunstall to set up a Jihad training camp in Pakistan. They were fund raising in the Mosque all the fucking community knew any of them ring the Police ?? Nah dont be silly. Get yaself over Saudi Arabia and tell them how you come in peace I must admit I'm quite shocked and appalled by your revelations but dare say I'm not surprised . I can't quite comprehend the sheer numbers or tactics involved by those you mention in your post. i congratulate you for making us exiles aware of what has and is going on . I amazed at the Cities sad demise since I left it. Suffice to say , it doesn't feel like 'home' anymore. It is not like home anymore, we are made to feel more like lodgers every day in our country, the most frustrating thing is that some appear to be blind to it in fact support it.
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Post by boothenpaddock86 on Jan 22, 2015 22:30:51 GMT
Deadly serious the first objective of the nwo is to take control of the world's resources oil/gas etc just so happens most are in the middle east.A free press is a fallacy these days NO msn organization can publish what they want its all controlled. think people need to integrate more with Muslims and find out what nice people they really are,every race/religion has good and bad.as for the hoaxes done in the name of Islam it is up to you to do you to do your own research and trust your own conclusions .governments/media are collaborating together so do expect a clear picture Most of the Worlds resources are in Christian African country's that are being over run by Islamic fundamentalists but never mind. Integrate with the peaceful Muslims look I went Brownhills high school it was 50% Muslim 50% non Muslim back in the 90s. We did integrate wasn't returned though. Had riot police in on dinner breaks Muslim parents taking their kids out of school and shipping them back off to Pakistan for arranged marriages, due to the fact they had been found out dating non Muslim girls at school I could go on and on, never trust what you see with your eyes though Chris Spivey David Icke and the likes will be a lot more reliable form of information. Only 2ys ago we have 4 ex pupils of Brownhills all over the national news as they had been planning to blow up nightclubs in Stoke-on-Trent and co conspiring with a cell in London to attack the City. They interviewed the 4 lads from Brownhills on Central news a good 4 to 5yr before their fucked up plan came to light. Guess what all denied being fanatics !!! Just good Muslim boys and anti terror had got the wrong end of the stick. How about the boys up Tunstall as well raising funds in the Mosques of Tunstall to set up a Jihad training camp in Pakistan. They were fund raising in the Mosque all the fucking community knew any of them ring the Police ?? Nah dont be silly. Get yaself over Saudi Arabia and tell them how you come in peace You've just proved my point inadvertently,as I've said previously Isis/boka haram is a product of the cia/mossad so it's no surprise they are going into Africa for the resources sponsored by...Saudi of course,close friends with the United states,can you explain why Saudi are never targeted? As you point out they have adopted the most radical form of Islam so surly if terrorism is the problem you go-to the source of the problem don't you ? or is that to crazy for you to contemplate
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 23:40:45 GMT
Probably because it's the same reason why the West didn't go into Pakistan after Bin Laden . A man who was living just a few hundred yards from a Pakistani military and training base. Who would have thought it ? Why did he choose to live there ?...who were his accomplices ? What were the significant implications for the Pakistan government.?
It's called international politics .
We are dealing with shady highly dangerous bastuurds with no scruples. Sometimes you have to sleep with the enemy , and sometimes you have to take them out.
In Bin Ladens case , he posed the greatest terrorist threat on the planet and was duly dispatched with immaculate efficiency.
hoorah I hear you cry ....
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Post by kinetic on Jan 23, 2015 8:03:09 GMT
Most of the Worlds resources are in Christian African country's that are being over run by Islamic fundamentalists but never mind. Integrate with the peaceful Muslims look I went Brownhills high school it was 50% Muslim 50% non Muslim back in the 90s. We did integrate wasn't returned though. Had riot police in on dinner breaks Muslim parents taking their kids out of school and shipping them back off to Pakistan for arranged marriages, due to the fact they had been found out dating non Muslim girls at school I could go on and on, never trust what you see with your eyes though Chris Spivey David Icke and the likes will be a lot more reliable form of information. Only 2ys ago we have 4 ex pupils of Brownhills all over the national news as they had been planning to blow up nightclubs in Stoke-on-Trent and co conspiring with a cell in London to attack the City. They interviewed the 4 lads from Brownhills on Central news a good 4 to 5yr before their fucked up plan came to light. Guess what all denied being fanatics !!! Just good Muslim boys and anti terror had got the wrong end of the stick. How about the boys up Tunstall as well raising funds in the Mosques of Tunstall to set up a Jihad training camp in Pakistan. They were fund raising in the Mosque all the fucking community knew any of them ring the Police ?? Nah dont be silly. Get yaself over Saudi Arabia and tell them how you come in peace You've just proved my point inadvertently,as I've said previously Isis/boka haram is a product of the cia/mossad so it's no surprise they are going into Africa for the resources sponsored by...Saudi of course,close friends with the United states,can you explain why Saudi are never targeted? As you point out they have adopted the most radical form of Islam so surly if terrorism is the problem you go-to the source of the problem don't you ? or is that to crazy for you to contemplate Saudi Arabia has adopted the most radical form of Islam what are you talking about that's the true Islam where was Mohamed born the Arabian peninsula ?? All the other forms of Islam the kind of peaceful ones came after Mo's death. They have adopted nothing. Like I say though what worries me is what I see on my own doorstep take this for instance you know the old Church on St Michaels road in Pittshill this one www.stokesentinel.co.uk/Pittshill-road-remains-closed-amid-fears-building/story-20817806-detail/story.htmlI chose that link for a reason. Now the fella who has brought the church Is a Pakistani Sunni Muslim proppa scumbag into the heroin trade grooming of young girls you know the rest. Anyway read the article. It tells you how he has planning permission to build apartments. Stoke Council told him he would have to get Baskervilles in to remove the roof at a cost of £30000. Did he no he had a few of his boys round a ripped it off over a weekend resulting in the structure becoming unsafe as it says in the article. So What you might think its safe now no harm was done. Yeah thing is its not going be apartments its going to be a Mosque. Show ya something that I got me hands on that is been handed out in the Mosques a little fundraiser if you like please feel free to donate. Oh hes also ripped the war memorial off of the front conna have them on a Mosque can you. Like you said in a earlier post though Botthen I should really get to know more Muslims I might be shocked (rofl)No go bury you head back in the sand. Its all fine.
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Post by elsidibe on Jan 23, 2015 8:58:52 GMT
Probably because it's the same reason why the West didn't go into Pakistan after Bin Laden . A man who was living just a few hundred yards from a Pakistani military and training base. Who would have thought it ? Why did he choose to live there ?...who were his accomplices ? What were the significant implications for the Pakistan government.? It's called international politics . We are dealing with shady highly dangerous bastuurds with no scruples. Sometimes you have to sleep with the enemy , and sometimes you have to take them out. In Bin Ladens case , he posed the greatest terrorist threat on the planet and was duly dispatched with immaculate efficiency. hoorah I hear you cry .... Ten years and between 10,000 and 50,000 civilian deaths (in Afghanistan alone) in order to assassinate one man. And, according to Bush, Bin Laden didn't even pose "the greatest terrorist threat on the planet", as you put it. So unbothered was Dubya, in fact, that he twice told French special forces to stand down when Bin Laden was in their sights. Which is odd because in order to justify war in Afghanistan, he'd gone on the record to say, with reference to OBL: "I want justice. And there's an old poster out West, I recall, that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'" None of that little lot reeks of immaculate efficiency to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 10:29:45 GMT
Probably because it's the same reason why the West didn't go into Pakistan after Bin Laden . A man who was living just a few hundred yards from a Pakistani military and training base. Who would have thought it ? Why did he choose to live there ?...who were his accomplices ? What were the significant implications for the Pakistan government.? It's called international politics . We are dealing with shady highly dangerous bastuurds with no scruples. Sometimes you have to sleep with the enemy , and sometimes you have to take them out. In Bin Ladens case , he posed the greatest terrorist threat on the planet and was duly dispatched with immaculate efficiency. hoorah I hear you cry .... Ten years and between 10,000 and 50,000 civilian deaths (in Afghanistan alone) in order to assassinate one man. And, according to Bush, Bin Laden didn't even pose "the greatest terrorist threat on the planet", as you put it. So unbothered was Dubya, in fact, that he twice told French special forces to stand down when Bin Laden was in their sights. Which is odd because in order to justify war in Afghanistan, he'd gone on the record to say, with reference to OBL: "I want justice. And there's an old poster out West, I recall, that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'" None of that little lot reeks of immaculate efficiency to me. Well I suppose that given your warped sense of logic and values that doesn't surprise me. To start with Bush called Bin laden " the ultimate parasite " which many would construe as being the most wanted man. Secondly , the civilian deaths in Afghanistan is debateable , given the nature of the area and their allegiances. To suggest that all,these deaths were as a result of catching Bin Laden alone is quite frankly ridiculous , hence the first line of my response. You have deliberately ignored the strategic risks associated with killing Bin Laden and the fact that he was not taken out sooner is evidence of this, You see , if you are going to provide video evidence of your point, try and least ensure that it validates your point , rather than the contrary. At the very least tens of thousands of Taliban have also been killed and as a result no longer pose any threat. The killing of Bin Laden is the greatest post war achievement in terms of importance in relation to one man associated with terrorism....no ifs ...no buts. So there you go....Facts provided by yourself , but warped by your poorly composed interpretation. Laughable and quite frankly disturbingly anti western .
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Post by boothenpaddock86 on Jan 23, 2015 12:12:28 GMT
You've just proved my point inadvertently,as I've said previously Isis/boka haram is a product of the cia/mossad so it's no surprise they are going into Africa for the resources sponsored by...Saudi of course,close friends with the United states,can you explain why Saudi are never targeted? As you point out they have adopted the most radical form of Islam so surly if terrorism is the problem you go-to the source of the problem don't you ? or is that to crazy for you to contemplate Saudi Arabia has adopted the most radical form of Islam what are you talking about that's the true Islam where was Mohamed born the Arabian peninsula ?? All the other forms of Islam the kind of peaceful ones came after Mo's death. They have adopted nothing. Like I say though what worries me is what I see on my own doorstep take this for instance you know the old Church on St Michaels road in Pittshill this one www.stokesentinel.co.uk/Pittshill-road-remains-closed-amid-fears-building/story-20817806-detail/story.htmlI chose that link for a reason. Now the fella who has brought the church Is a Pakistani Sunni Muslim proppa scumbag into the heroin trade grooming of young girls you know the rest. Anyway read the article. It tells you how he has planning permission to build apartments. Stoke Council told him he would have to get Baskervilles in to remove the roof at a cost of £30000. Did he no he had a few of his boys round a ripped it off over a weekend resulting in the structure becoming unsafe as it says in the article. So What you might think its safe now no harm was done. Yeah thing is its not going be apartments its going to be a Mosque. Show ya something that I got me hands on that is been handed out in the Mosques a little fundraiser if you like please feel free to donate. Oh hes also ripped the war memorial off of the front conna have them on a Mosque can you. Like you said in a earlier post though Botthen I should really get to know more Muslims I might be shocked (rofl)No go bury you head back in the sand. Its all fine. So you tar all muslims with the same brush then do you..or you want to kill the lot of them? and you still don't accept the cia/mossad connection then ? and I'm the ignorant one...I won't laugh because it ain't funny why not provide us with your solution then?
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Post by elsidibe on Jan 23, 2015 12:14:21 GMT
Ten years and between 10,000 and 50,000 civilian deaths (in Afghanistan alone) in order to assassinate one man. And, according to Bush, Bin Laden didn't even pose "the greatest terrorist threat on the planet", as you put it. So unbothered was Dubya, in fact, that he twice told French special forces to stand down when Bin Laden was in their sights. Which is odd because in order to justify war in Afghanistan, he'd gone on the record to say, with reference to OBL: "I want justice. And there's an old poster out West, I recall, that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'" None of that little lot reeks of immaculate efficiency to me. Well I suppose that given your warped sense of logic and values that doesn't surprise me. To start with Bush called Bin laden " the ultimate parasite " which many would construe as being the most wanted man. Secondly , the civilian deaths in Afghanistan is debateable , given the nature of the area and their allegiances. To suggest that all,these deaths were as a result of catching Bin Laden alone is quite frankly ridiculous , hence the first line of my response. You have deliberately ignored the strategic risks associated with killing Bin Laden and the fact that he was not taken out sooner is evidence of this, You see , if you are going to provide video evidence of your point, try and least ensure that it validates your point , rather than the contrary. At the very least tens of thousands of Taliban have also been killed and as a result no longer pose any threat. The killing of Bin Laden is the greatest post war achievement in terms of importance in relation to one man associated with terrorism....no ifs ...no buts. So there you go....Facts provided by yourself , but warped by your poorly composed interpretation. Laughable and quite frankly disturbingly anti western . I'm not anti-western at all, I just criticise certain actions of western governments; exactly as you do. It's called democracy, and judging by your recent posts I'd assumed you were in favour of it. If you find my civilian deaths in Afghanistan figure "debatable", then perhaps you should put yourself forward for some kind of advisory job with a respected university, research centre, news organisation or the like. Or at the very least you could edit this Wikipedia page and back up your assertions with some credible source material rather than a load of nebulous strawman accusations. Incidentally, the page in question puts the figure higher than I did. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_in_the_War_in_Afghanistan_%282001%E2%80%93present%29I'm afraid the war in Afghanistan was justified to the world by the Taliban's "harbouring" of Bin Laden, so it's not "quite frankly ridiculous" to suggest that the pursuit of him resulted in a lot of civilian deaths. Would we have gone to war there had 9/11 not happened? Presumably not. Strategic risks? I'll bow to your greater knowledge and accept that the most powerful military force the world has ever seen should take ten years to locate some deluded yoghurt-eating nutjob living first in a cave, then in plain sight. (Even though French special forces had actually already told the Americans where he was and offered to take him out). The assassination of OBL might have been "the greatest post war achievement in terms of importance in relation to one man associated with terrorism....no ifs ...no buts" had it only been done at a time when he was actually a direct threat to the west. ie anytime before September 2001, really. But then as we all know Bush simply wasn't interested in him at that stage. Or indeed after we'd gone to war - as my video evidence did, in fact, demonstrate.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 13:38:50 GMT
Elsidibie.....You've once again contracticted yourself.
You previously said that between 10000 - 50000 civilians were killed in Afghanistan .
I said that your figures were debateable.
Then you provide a wiki link which suggests a more accurate forecast is between 18 - 20000....
There seems to be massive differences in estimates. Which one do you want me to believe.?
As regards your other suggestions about me going on some advisory body ....not interested.
You seem more qualified than me.
Mumf
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Post by kinetic on Jan 23, 2015 14:01:32 GMT
Saudi Arabia has adopted the most radical form of Islam what are you talking about that's the true Islam where was Mohamed born the Arabian peninsula ?? All the other forms of Islam the kind of peaceful ones came after Mo's death. They have adopted nothing. Like I say though what worries me is what I see on my own doorstep take this for instance you know the old Church on St Michaels road in Pittshill this one www.stokesentinel.co.uk/Pittshill-road-remains-closed-amid-fears-building/story-20817806-detail/story.htmlI chose that link for a reason. Now the fella who has brought the church Is a Pakistani Sunni Muslim proppa scumbag into the heroin trade grooming of young girls you know the rest. Anyway read the article. It tells you how he has planning permission to build apartments. Stoke Council told him he would have to get Baskervilles in to remove the roof at a cost of £30000. Did he no he had a few of his boys round a ripped it off over a weekend resulting in the structure becoming unsafe as it says in the article. So What you might think its safe now no harm was done. Yeah thing is its not going be apartments its going to be a Mosque. Show ya something that I got me hands on that is been handed out in the Mosques a little fundraiser if you like please feel free to donate. Oh hes also ripped the war memorial off of the front conna have them on a Mosque can you. Like you said in a earlier post though Botthen I should really get to know more Muslims I might be shocked (rofl)No go bury you head back in the sand. Its all fine. So you tar all muslims with the same brush then do you..or you want to kill the lot of them? and you still don't accept the cia/mossad connection then ? and I'm the ignorant one...I won't laugh because it ain't funny why not provide us with your solution then? Every Sunni Muslim is a cunt yes. What's the CIA got do with illegally built mosque's in the UK or the prostitution of 100s of 1000s of non Sunni Muslim girls in the UK ?? We all know the solution !! Sunni Islam and the rest of the world cannot live together full stop. So long as bell ends keep skirting around it though, what chance is there. "Oh its only a radical few", " We need to make them feel more welcome" fucking blah blah blah.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 14:21:51 GMT
So you tar all muslims with the same brush then do you..or you want to kill the lot of them? and you still don't accept the cia/mossad connection then ? and I'm the ignorant one...I won't laugh because it ain't funny why not provide us with your solution then? Every Sunni Muslim is a cunt yes. What's the CIA got do with illegally built mosque's in the UK or the prostitution of 100s of 1000s of non Sunni Muslim girls in the UK ?? We all know the solution !! Sunni Islam and the rest of the world cannot live together full stop. So long as bell ends keep skirting around it though, what chance is there. "Oh its only a radical few", " We need to make them feel more welcome" fucking blah blah blah. yeah instead of skirting around it we can just make up facts......Sunni muslims are directly responsible for the prostitution of hundreds of thousands of girls in the UK???? really??? where did you make up find that stat exactly? just interested because all current estimates stand at around 100,000 sex workers being in the UK full stop in total! anything else you want to make up and pin on them while you're at it o statto?
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Post by elsidibe on Jan 23, 2015 14:29:09 GMT
Elsidibie.....You've once again contracticted yourself. You previously said that between 10000 - 50000 civilians were killed in Afghanistan . I said that your figures were debateable. Then you provide a wiki link which suggests a more accurate forecast is between 18 - 20000.... There seems to be massive differences in estimates. Which one do you want me to believe.? As regards your other suggestions about me going on some advisory body ....not interested. You seem more qualified than me. Mumf I haven't contradicted myself though have I? Last time I checked, 18-20,000 falls within the range of 10-50,000. The page that references 18-20,000 also carries the caveat "Most, if not all, of the sources state that their estimates are likely to be underestimates." And they're not my figures either - they're put forward by all manner of respected organisations - but believe whatever you like for all I care.
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Post by kinetic on Jan 23, 2015 14:42:44 GMT
Every Sunni Muslim is a cunt yes. What's the CIA got do with illegally built mosque's in the UK or the prostitution of 100s of 1000s of non Sunni Muslim girls in the UK ?? We all know the solution !! Sunni Islam and the rest of the world cannot live together full stop. So long as bell ends keep skirting around it though, what chance is there. "Oh its only a radical few", " We need to make them feel more welcome" fucking blah blah blah. yeah instead of skirting around it we can just make up facts......Sunni muslims are directly responsible for the prostitution of hundreds of thousands of girls in the UK???? really??? where did you make up find that stat exactly? just interested because all current estimates stand at around 100,000 sex workers being in the UK full stop in total! anything else you want to make up and pin on them while you're at it o statto? Considering are government has skirted around the issue for 20yrs we don't know real numbers. Rotherham population of 250.000 1400 children rapped was it in a 13yr period ?? You do the math for the country. Guess what branch of Islam all the scum came from ?? Not sex workers either dick head children big difference sex workers are known to police. I have seen how they work I was hooked on smack for 5yr myself. I don't need the internet or the media tell me how horrid Islam is or how misunderstood it is I get it real life.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jan 23, 2015 14:50:21 GMT
You sound such a lovely chap, Kinetic. I do hope that Islamic nations view all white English people as being like you, it'd show us in such a good light.
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Post by kinetic on Jan 23, 2015 15:05:29 GMT
You sound such a lovely chap, Kinetic. I do hope that Islamic nations view all white English people as being like you, it'd show us in such a good light. Your wishes have been granted. You hope all Muslim Nations view white English like I do Muslims for one I am not tarring all Muslims just one sect but read what ya wanna.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 15:06:06 GMT
yeah instead of skirting around it we can just make up facts......Sunni muslims are directly responsible for the prostitution of hundreds of thousands of girls in the UK???? really??? where did you make up find that stat exactly? just interested because all current estimates stand at around 100,000 sex workers being in the UK full stop in total! anything else you want to make up and pin on them while you're at it o statto? Considering are government has skirted around the issue for 20yrs we don't know real numbers. Rotherham population of 250.000 1400 children rapped was it in a 13yr period ?? You do the math for the country. Guess what branch of Islam all the scum came from ?? Not sex workers either dick head children big difference sex workers are known to police. I have seen how they work I was hooked on smack for 5yr myself. I don't need the internet or the media tell me how horrid Islam is or how misunderstood it is I get it real life. so resorting to insulting and abusing people to get your message across about how nasty some other people are!! you're not the intellectual type are you...... so your figures are based on ONE 13 year period in ONE area of the country and deciding that it's representative of EVERY area in the whole nation? i'll ask again......where did you get that stat from?
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Post by kinetic on Jan 23, 2015 15:10:43 GMT
Considering are government has skirted around the issue for 20yrs we don't know real numbers. Rotherham population of 250.000 1400 children rapped was it in a 13yr period ?? You do the math for the country. Guess what branch of Islam all the scum came from ?? Not sex workers either dick head children big difference sex workers are known to police. I have seen how they work I was hooked on smack for 5yr myself. I don't need the internet or the media tell me how horrid Islam is or how misunderstood it is I get it real life. so resorting to insulting and abusing people to get your message across about how nasty some other people are!! you're not the intellectual type are you...... i'll ask again......where did you get that stat from? Me Intellectual Would be though my school years were spent worrying about where my next fix of heroin was going come from not school or dating. What can I rob sell to feel better for 3hr ? That aside. I will ask again where did you decide sex workers are groomed children ?? I used Rotherham as a example cause for some reason that's the only report being released at the moment. Couldn't think why ??? 1400 in a town of 250.000 you think London with a population of 8 million or Brum with its 1 and a half million population are going be any different ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 15:19:26 GMT
so resorting to insulting and abusing people to get your message across about how nasty some other people are!! you're not the intellectual type are you...... i'll ask again......where did you get that stat from? I will ask again where did you decide sex workers are groomed children ?? 1400 in a town of 250.000 for some reason that's the only report being released at the moment. Couldn't think why ??? i never said sex workers were groomed children....then again you never mentioned specifically groomed children either, you mentioned girls in prostitution (not all girls within prostitution are groomed and certainly not all that are groomed are forced into it by Sunni Muslims) for the third time...where did you get that stat? surely a man like yourself with such vehement and passionately held beliefs who desperately wants to get his point across to educate those of us that are unaware of these "Facts", should be able to provide a link to where this "Fact" came from? it can't be that difficult can it? you see, that's the thing about debate and discussion...if you suddenly start making things up because you feel it adds weight to your argument and just hope that no-one will notice and then are subsequently "Busted" as being a liar, it usually leads to people seeing you as a lying prick who's just bullshitting out of desperation due to your own personal agenda and (in this instance) personal hatred of a particular people. in other words, people tend not to bother taking anything else you then say seriously....you kinda ruin your current argument and the ones you've come up with beforehand because no-one can trust a bloody word you say. a man who makes things up to convince us how horrible and intolerant of others' beliefs the Sunni Muslims are and then goes on to say that every Sunni Muslim is a cunt and makes up "Facts" to try to prove it....oh the irony!! EDIT: by the way, you can't "Ask again"...you have to have asked something in the first place to "Ask again" and you never asked me whether i said sex workers were groomed children. basics of English language
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Post by kinetic on Jan 23, 2015 15:37:01 GMT
I will ask again where did you decide sex workers are groomed children ?? 1400 in a town of 250.000 for some reason that's the only report being released at the moment. Couldn't think why ??? i never said sex workers were groomed children....then again you never mentioned specifically groomed children either, you mentioned girls in prostitution (not all girls within prostitution are groomed and certainly not all that are groomed are forced into it by Sunni Muslims) for the third time...where did you get that stat? surely a man like yourself with such vehement and passionately held beliefs who desperately wants to get his point across to educate those of us that are unaware of these "Facts", should be able to provide a link to where this "Fact" came from? it can't be that difficult can it? you see, that's the thing about debate and discussion...if you suddenly start making things up because you feel it adds weight to your argument and just hope that no-one will notice and then are subsequently "Busted" as being a liar, it usually leads to people seeing you as a lying prick who's just bullshitting out of desperation due to your own personal agenda and (in this instance) personal hatred of a particular people. in other words, people tend not to bother taking anything else you then say seriously....you kinda ruin your current argument and the ones you've come up with beforehand because no-one can trust a bloody word you say. a man who makes things up to convince us how horrible and intolerant of others' beliefs the Sunni Muslims are and then goes on to say that every Sunni Muslim is a cunt and makes up "Facts" to try to prove it....oh the irony!! EDIT: by the way, you can't "Ask again"...you have to have asked something in the first place to "Ask again" and you never asked me whether i said sex workers were groomed children. basics of English language Edited the post above. To be honest though think I might convert and become a bullet proof Sunni. Intolerance don't make me laugh. I said child prostitution BTW and that my friend is grooming you big intellectual you. Don't start making things up or you end up busted and your argument is invalid. 1400 in a town of 250.000. I will get back to you when the Bradford, London, Brum, Leicester, Stoke, ect ect report comes out.
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Post by kinetic on Jan 23, 2015 15:40:10 GMT
Sorry I said the prostitution of non sunni muslim GIRLS same difference.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 16:00:08 GMT
i never said sex workers were groomed children....then again you never mentioned specifically groomed children either, you mentioned girls in prostitution (not all girls within prostitution are groomed and certainly not all that are groomed are forced into it by Sunni Muslims) for the third time...where did you get that stat? surely a man like yourself with such vehement and passionately held beliefs who desperately wants to get his point across to educate those of us that are unaware of these "Facts", should be able to provide a link to where this "Fact" came from? it can't be that difficult can it? you see, that's the thing about debate and discussion...if you suddenly start making things up because you feel it adds weight to your argument and just hope that no-one will notice and then are subsequently "Busted" as being a liar, it usually leads to people seeing you as a lying prick who's just bullshitting out of desperation due to your own personal agenda and (in this instance) personal hatred of a particular people. in other words, people tend not to bother taking anything else you then say seriously....you kinda ruin your current argument and the ones you've come up with beforehand because no-one can trust a bloody word you say. a man who makes things up to convince us how horrible and intolerant of others' beliefs the Sunni Muslims are and then goes on to say that every Sunni Muslim is a cunt and makes up "Facts" to try to prove it....oh the irony!! EDIT: by the way, you can't "Ask again"...you have to have asked something in the first place to "Ask again" and you never asked me whether i said sex workers were groomed children. basics of English language Edited the post above. To be honest though think I might convert and become a bullet proof Sunni. Intolerance don't make me laugh. I said child prostitution BTW and that my friend is grooming you big intellectual you. Don't start making things up or you end up busted and your argument is invalid. 1400 in a town of 250.000. I will get back to you when the Bradford, London, Brum, Leicester, Stoke, ect ect report comes out. you are aware though that not all child prostitutes are groomed or forced into it by Sunni Muslims aren't you??? also, not all child prostitutes are even groomed, some are simply young girls that go into it for financial reasons, drug problems (which doesn't equate to that "Pusher" then grooming them into prostitution at all, they go into it independently to fund that habit) etc. etc. there are even cases of girls that have taken up prostitution in order to fund purely aesthetic cosmetic surgery so NO, Child prostitution does NOT automatically equate to Grooming i'm afraid. in SOME cases it is linked, no doubts about that at all, but to say the two are inextricably linked just isn't true. again, (fourth time now) where did you get the stat from?
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Post by kinetic on Jan 23, 2015 16:03:46 GMT
so resorting to insulting and abusing people to get your message across about how nasty some other people are!! you're not the intellectual type are you...... i'll ask again......where did you get that stat from? Me Intellectual Would be though my school years were spent worrying about where my next fix of heroin was going come from not school or dating. What can I rob sell to feel better for 3hr ? That aside. I will ask again where did you decide sex workers are groomed children ?? I used Rotherham as a example cause for some reason that's the only report being released at the moment. Couldn't think why ??? 1400 in a town of 250.000 you think London with a population of 8 million or Brum with its 1 and a half million population are going be any different ? Here you go here is the report on Birmingham. NOT FOR THE PUBLICS EYES. www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/revealed-disproportionately-high-numbers-pakistani-8439716?ICID=FB-Birm-main
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 16:17:36 GMT
Me Intellectual Would be though my school years were spent worrying about where my next fix of heroin was going come from not school or dating. What can I rob sell to feel better for 3hr ? That aside. I will ask again where did you decide sex workers are groomed children ?? I used Rotherham as a example cause for some reason that's the only report being released at the moment. Couldn't think why ??? 1400 in a town of 250.000 you think London with a population of 8 million or Brum with its 1 and a half million population are going be any different ? Here you go here is the report on Birmingham. NOT FOR THE PUBLICS EYES. www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/revealed-disproportionately-high-numbers-pakistani-8439716?ICID=FB-Birm-mainthat means nothing mate....they're specifically talking about grooming for the purposes of prostitution. where exactly does it say that that is the ONLY way/means/method or reason that there is child prostitution? it doesn't even imply that or try to imply that so there's no way you can say that: 1) All child prostitution is a product of grooming or 2) where grooming for prostitution IS present, it all is ALL due to Sunni Muslims. you're using a complete false logic; because Sunni Muslims in Rotherham groomed girls into prostitution therefore all child prostitutes are groomed and therefore all groomed by Sunni Muslims and those figures can be used to extrapolate a figure to calculate the extent within the entire nation..it's the kind of logic that wouldn't stand up in a junior debating society comprised of 11 year olds without being torn to shreds within 30 seconds let alone stand up in any kind of political forum about the state of Islamic extremism in the country today. it's precisely those kind of ridiculous, lazy and generic assumptions and presumptions that lead to the misinformed, ignorant and narrow minded prejudices and hatred of certain sections of society that you're apparently trying to stand against!! you're using exactly the same kind of bizarre and twisted logic that (some by no means all) Sunni Muslims use to justify their hatred of the "West" as an excuse to carry out the abhorrent crimes that a minority of them do!
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Post by boothenpaddock86 on Jan 23, 2015 17:04:33 GMT
Sorry I said the prostitution of non sunni muslim GIRLS same difference. Mate dont wind yourself to much about it we all know it's a big problem but it's not exclusively a Sunni Muslim problem,government officials/mps allegedly have a lot to answer for,religion is here to stay for the foreseeable future so we shouldn't alienate people because of their beliefs,these communities are as sick as we are about what is going on.it's time we worked together to stop this behaviour
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Post by kinetic on Jan 23, 2015 17:11:13 GMT
Sorry I said the prostitution of non sunni muslim GIRLS same difference. Mate dont wind yourself to much about it we all know it's a big problem but it's not exclusively a Sunni Muslim problem,government officials/mps allegedly have a lot to answer for,religion is here to stay for the foreseeable future so we shouldn't alienate people because of their beliefs,these communities are a sick as we are about what is going on.it's time we worked together to stop this behaviour How can we work together when Sunni Islam forbids it. Their way or the highway, there is no integration its not a Religion its a Political movement a life style guide a law maker what you can eat how you can dress how you wash who you marry the full package and everything else/one can go to hell.
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