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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Oct 30, 2014 17:44:54 GMT
Ay, I am happy to get relegated and I have always said that. I would rather watch us on the lower leagues. Money has fucked our game up and it pains me to say that our own fans are turning into the very fans we used to hate at other clubs. Sad times indeed. So following your logic you should really want Hughes in until the end of the season. This would mean his gay football would take us down to the promised land of the lower leagues. Perhaps worded a little wrong. I don't want us to go down but at the same time I am not arsed if we do. It wouldn't be the end of the world for me as a supporter although I know the club would lose out cash wise.
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Post by miggo on Oct 30, 2014 17:48:53 GMT
There are some very valid points being made on this thread as well as some astounding bollocks. Of course Hughes isn't above criticism but it's pure bullshit to say his signings haven't had an impact....MOSES?????? Really????? Bardsley????? Really??? I guess, whoever thinks he's made poor signings is talking about Bojan and, it's true, that he's seems to be struggling to settle. If it's Diouf in the firing line then we really do need to cut him a bit of slack since he's had niggling injuries and has been shoved out wide. I don't think there's too much wrong with us apart from some shocking individual errors at the back and not hitting the target often enough. I'm convinced we have the players to improve on both counts and I agree with the OP about fans having a little patience. I was a huge supporter of Pulis and had to eventually accept that it was time for him to go. I give Mark Hughes the same support. He took on a difficult task, all things considered, and did a great job last season and I'm optimistic that he'll get it right this season too but, at the moment, we're falling a little short of where we are capable of being. So, yes, fair enough if people wants to criticise him but I doubt too many are panicking. I'll give you Moses. I don't share the enthusiasm for Bardsley who I think is ordinary and a booking waiting to happen. Diouf may yet come good but I find it strange that Hughes does not know what to do with a player he pursued for so long. The rest we could do without. It's not a great transfer record. Wrong. Crouchy s form with the quick players around him is why he has been pushed out to the wing, not because he doesn't know what to do with him! This thread is hugely embarrassing even by oatcake standards. Sent from my C6603 using proboards
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Post by tazi on Oct 30, 2014 17:56:17 GMT
Wasn't 10 years though was it..., I don't honestly know how long it was and I can't be arsed to check, I'd rather not remind myself. It seemed like a lifetime regardless of how long it actually was. [br Check what exactly?. Werrington reckoned I'd defended everything Tony Pulis did for 10 years who i quoted and passed a comment to. Quite why he felt I'd defended a successful manager of my club for 10 years I don't quite know. Bit of an odd thing to say that was from him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 17:57:46 GMT
Well if we can't finish above a team who'll get less than ten points from Christmas onwards, we'll really be in the poo won't we? I knew you couldn't resist that one Seriously, there is no need to worry about our current position. Now I'm worried.
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Post by tazi on Oct 30, 2014 18:10:05 GMT
Time for Hughes and those 'just what the fcuk do they coach' coaches to go. If we lose against West Ham then id hope they all get the fcuking boot. tazi we get the message Your getting boring now... at least try to be original Youre better off following Leeds fella It's an opinion and one I'm entitled too so if you don't mind, do one.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 30, 2014 18:18:10 GMT
I am not panicking. I just hope he goes soon. He has us playing shit football nearly every week with all this pass it left, right and backwards bollox. There is no fight, passion or togetherness in the team. Set pieces are a total waste of time if we are taking them or defending them. He has turned a team into a bunch of individuals. This isn't about Mr Pulis and never was and I wouldn't have Mr Pulis back but I will as sure as fuck be glad to see the back of hughes! Feel free to shoot me down all you want but that is my honest opinion. Who would you pick as a replacement?
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Oct 30, 2014 18:32:06 GMT
I am not panicking. I just hope he goes soon. He has us playing shit football nearly every week with all this pass it left, right and backwards bollox. There is no fight, passion or togetherness in the team. Set pieces are a total waste of time if we are taking them or defending them. He has turned a team into a bunch of individuals. This isn't about Mr Pulis and never was and I wouldn't have Mr Pulis back but I will as sure as fuck be glad to see the back of hughes! Feel free to shoot me down all you want but that is my honest opinion. Who would you pick as a replacement? Not really thought about it to be honest muck. Just had enough of this boring shit. It's all about what floats ya boat I suppose and I like the get into them approach to games instead of the tippy tappy possession game.
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Post by elystokie on Oct 30, 2014 18:37:20 GMT
I don't honestly know how long it was and I can't be arsed to check, I'd rather not remind myself. It seemed like a lifetime regardless of how long it actually was. [br Check what exactly?. Werrington reckoned I'd defended everything Tony Pulis did for 10 years who i quoted and passed a comment to. Quite why he felt I'd defended a successful manager of my club for 10 years I don't quite know. Bit of an odd thing to say that was from him. Ok, whatever
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Post by march4 on Oct 30, 2014 18:40:27 GMT
I know my predictions are hit or miss but I am confident that we will finish the season above Soton and Wham in the table. Give me a shout when one of your 'hits' lands please. How long have you got?
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Oct 30, 2014 19:04:32 GMT
I am not panicking. I just hope he goes soon. He has us playing shit football nearly every week with all this pass it left, right and backwards bollox. There is no fight, passion or togetherness in the team. Set pieces are a total waste of time if we are taking them or defending them. He has turned a team into a bunch of individuals. This isn't about Mr Pulis and never was and I wouldn't have Mr Pulis back but I will as sure as fuck be glad to see the back of hughes! Feel free to shoot me down all you want but that is my honest opinion. " team togetherness " is very strong.
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 30, 2014 19:07:45 GMT
Apart from on the pitch?
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 30, 2014 19:12:37 GMT
Was thinking the same thing about the OP earlier. But ask me after Saturday. Another home defeat will get my blood pressure back up to raging level.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 19:15:50 GMT
You mean he isnt here already? Efforts must be doubled.
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Oct 30, 2014 19:23:50 GMT
I think two recent come backs suggest otherwise. Mark and his team know certain areas need to improve and like last season they will.
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 30, 2014 19:29:15 GMT
Indeed Chris, any idea of timescale?
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 30, 2014 19:30:02 GMT
Indeed Chris, any idea of timescale? April
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Oct 30, 2014 19:31:25 GMT
Indeed Chris, any idea of timescale? April 2017
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Oct 30, 2014 19:32:23 GMT
Indeed Chris, any idea of timescale? January could be huge in terms of a major outgoing and a couple of very decent in comings. It will take shape.
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Post by swampySCFC on Oct 30, 2014 19:32:27 GMT
I was hoping for a season of looking up not down but it is Stoke after all. Brilliant finish to last season but we look a shadow of that form. Too many players seem to be struggling and the first eleven doesn't really pick itself. Christmas games a bit daunting
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 30, 2014 19:33:08 GMT
I feel a drip, drip, drip, drip, is about to hit us.
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 30, 2014 19:37:14 GMT
I think the turnaround could start on Saturday Chris, providing the referee doesn't turn up.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Oct 30, 2014 19:43:25 GMT
Indeed Chris, any idea of timescale? January could be huge in terms of a major outgoing and a couple of very decent in comings. It will take shape. Intrigued. Know about the outgoing but incomings? Are we really going to deal in January?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 30, 2014 19:57:52 GMT
I am not panicking. I just hope he goes soon. He has us playing shit football nearly every week with all this pass it left, right and backwards bollox. There is no fight, passion or togetherness in the team. Set pieces are a total waste of time if we are taking them or defending them. He has turned a team into a bunch of individuals. This isn't about Mr Pulis and never was and I wouldn't have Mr Pulis back but I will as sure as fuck be glad to see the back of hughes! Feel free to shoot me down all you want but that is my honest opinion. Go on Stafford, buy that Hughes Out van. You know you want to. Then when we're 11th at the end of the season invite Sparky for a ride around the Brit. He'll come. He's got a sense of humour. Then we can all have a few beers and a laugh about it. You can add this sun strip I saw in Halfords the other day......... Attachment Deleted
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 30, 2014 20:01:33 GMT
Indeed Chris, any idea of timescale? January could be huge in terms of a major outgoing and a couple of very decent in comings. It will take shape. The January countdown has started ladies and Gents and we are only in October, this could well turn into the official transfer thread!!
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Post by hammered on Oct 30, 2014 21:44:44 GMT
There’s a 1500 page thread on Kumb “Sam Stick or Twist” which started as an innocent question and still running – A couple of wins – it disappears down the pages – a couple of loses and it’s back at the top and after a year or so acts as a sort of barometer for all things West Ham.
Stickers saw the good job Sam had done, understood the club’s budget restrictions, understood the football quality was a means/end to staying up and reasoned we’d see better when quality players could be afforded. So far this season it’s how it’s turning out.
Twisters either, always hated the bloke, thought his limitations reached or justifiably (opinion) upset at the value delivered on the pitch for the money paid on the gate. A lot of Twisters are currently eating large slices of humble – while others eagerly await Sam’s drop in form.
Expectation is the massive skew - usually the influencing factor of this type of debate. If this really is the 2nd best start since promotion for Stoke, in the mid-table mix without playing well, with injuries, suspensions, lack of investment and referees etc..all working against you – then European football awaits once Hughes get’s his planets aligned.
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Post by lordb on Oct 30, 2014 22:21:47 GMT
Might seem daft from an outsiders point of view but challenging for Europa League spot is the aim. Feels a million miles away at the moment but we know we have good football in us.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 23:03:34 GMT
There’s a 1500 page thread on Kumb “Sam Stick or Twist” which started as an innocent question and still running – A couple of wins – it disappears down the pages – a couple of loses and it’s back at the top and after a year or so acts as a sort of barometer for all things West Ham. Stickers saw the good job Sam had done, understood the club’s budget restrictions, understood the football quality was a means/end to staying up and reasoned we’d see better when quality players could be afforded. So far this season it’s how it’s turning out. Twisters either, always hated the bloke, thought his limitations reached or justifiably (opinion) upset at the value delivered on the pitch for the money paid on the gate. A lot of Twisters are currently eating large slices of humble – while others eagerly await Sam’s drop in form. Expectation is the massive skew - usually the influencing factor of this type of debate. If this really is the 2nd best start since promotion for Stoke, in the mid-table mix without playing well, with injuries, suspensions, lack of investment and referees etc..all working against you – then European football awaits once Hughes get’s his planets aligned. Fickleness is rife mate. Patience died a long time ago. I think both our clubs will end up in the mix. I'd fancy us to edge it though
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Post by tracksuittony on Oct 30, 2014 23:16:03 GMT
NO. Sometimes you have to take a step backwards to take two forwards. As long as the step back isn't catastrophic, which is isn't, that's all good. Time is of the essence.
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 31, 2014 1:02:07 GMT
The correlation between those who have no patience for a stuttering Hughes regime, and those who were prepared to put up with dire results coupled with anti-football for long periods is staggering.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Oct 31, 2014 1:19:07 GMT
All seems a bit divisive to me. I celebrate the fact that we've achieved a status whereby we can attract International quality players. That might bring with it World Cup/International/ACON hangovers/squad dilemmas. That's the way we roll these days. It's a journey for sure.
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