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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 12:52:16 GMT
I assume there aren’t many Stokies heeding the lessons from last season? Some of the over-dramatic, drama-queen, hyperbole nonsense posted on this board in recent weeks has reached unprecedented levels of complete and utter arse gravy. It never ceases to amaze me just how fickle some fans can be. I’d imagine there’s a section of West Ham fans that were calling for Sam’s big fat head not too long ago. The very same fans that now bow down at his feet and hail him as the second coming. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a similar thing happen to Pardew now that they’ve turned the corner too, with 3 wins on the bounce. Last season we had people calling for Hughes’ head before he’d even had chance to get going, others falling over themselves to tell us Arnie was absolutely useless and a whole host of other nonsense about loss of identity and that we were on a one way road to epic failure. Those who chose to display just the smallest bit of patience were eventually vindicated with our highest league finish for over 40 years, with a final finish of 9th, and some blistering football in the process. There’s no doubting we’re stuttering this season but it isn’t half as bad as some are making out. We currently have 11 points from the first 9 games of the campaign. Last season we didn’t manage to amass that many points with an additional 2 matches under our belt (10 points from 11). It could be better of course, but it isn’t the end of the world by any stretch of the imagination. The fact we have some already overly criticising the likes of Arnie (again) and Bojan Is absolutely laughable. Is it so difficult to have a bit of faith in the Management team that delivered the goods, in a massive way, not too long ago? Is it too much to allow a bit of breathing space and have confidence in a player (Arnie) to regain the form he emphatically displayed just a few months ago, when he was head and shoulders above every other player in the squad?? Hughes has proven he knows what he’s doing at this level. Last year was the 5th top 10 Premier League finish he has delivered in his career, all of which came at clubs you wouldn’t necessarily put in that bracket (3 with Blackburn, 1 with Fulham, 1 with Stoke). It wasn’t a fluke, nor was it luck or chance. His track record speaks for itself. I’m not saying there aren’t any reasons for concern at the moment but that doesn’t mean we have to start waving the white flag and get carried away in our criticisms of certain individuals or the manager. We’ve got a decent crop of players and a Manager that knows his onions. It’s only a matter of time before it clicks and our attacking players move through the gears. We’ll be fine this season and I predict we’ll be in the hunt for the top 10 again, when the tail end of the season is upon us. Have a little faith. It isn't time to panic just yet.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 30, 2014 12:58:19 GMT
I'm predicting in about 2 minutes, shit will hit the fan.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Oct 30, 2014 12:58:46 GMT
"It isn't time to panic just yet"! True but I like your "little faith" being supported by the need not to panic YET! Precisely, when do you suggest we start panicking? After the W.H.U. game, away to Spurs, in four games time, the Christmas period?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 13:00:16 GMT
"It isn't time to panic just yet"! True but I like your "little faith" being supported by the need not to panic YET! Precisely, when do you suggest we start panicking? After the W.H.U. game, away to Spurs, in four games time, the Christmas period? As we saw last year, there's plenty of time to move through the gears. The time to panic isn't even on the horizon yet.
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 30, 2014 13:02:28 GMT
What is our points gained per games like compared to the last 5 seasons?
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 30, 2014 13:02:54 GMT
This all has a ring of Corporal Jones in it, I don't think there are many who are worried, let alone panicking.
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Post by stokeramblers on Oct 30, 2014 13:03:05 GMT
Didn't the van get 'vandalised' not so long ago...?
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Post by elystokie on Oct 30, 2014 13:03:22 GMT
Excellent post WD
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 30, 2014 13:04:38 GMT
This all has a ring of Corporal Jones in it, I don't think there are many who are worried, let alone panicking. I don't either, most are faux worried just for the benefit of the board and to protect their previous stance.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 13:05:22 GMT
This all has a ring of Corporal Jones in it, I don't think there are many who are worried, let alone panicking. There are plenty mate.
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Post by louis11 on Oct 30, 2014 13:06:10 GMT
I didn't want his appointment, and up to Man Utd at home, I thought we were down, but he proved me wrong at the end of last season. This season just seems a mess, disjointed changing teams, and a centre-half that makes at least one meaningful mistake every game, but keeps on playing. More worrying than last year in some ways, as the current crop have been his for over 12 months, whereas last year, we were "evolving" But, football can change quickly, so lets get the "panic" button ready, but don't press it just yet
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 30, 2014 13:09:24 GMT
Didn't the van get 'vandalised' not so long ago...?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 30, 2014 13:10:39 GMT
People always get concerned when we lose, it's natural and bar odd half hours here and there, we really haven't played very well. As for not 'heeding' lessons last year WD, is it really acceptable to wait until March every year to get our season going or for Arnie to do something useful? If I hear Mark and his team use the 'we get better in the second half of the season' line again, I'll punch my computer.
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Post by werrington on Oct 30, 2014 13:10:36 GMT
"It isn't time to panic just yet"! True but I like your "little faith" being supported by the need not to panic YET! Precisely, when do you suggest we start panicking? After the W.H.U. game, away to Spurs, in four games time, the Christmas period? The 2nd best start ever to a premiership season You've lost me
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Post by tazi on Oct 30, 2014 13:13:18 GMT
Time for Hughes and those 'just what the fcuk do they coach' coaches to go.
If we lose against West Ham then id hope they all get the fcuking boot.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 13:16:11 GMT
People always get concerned when we lose, it's natural and bar odd half hours here and there, we really haven't played very well. As for not 'heeding' lessons last year WD, is it really acceptable to wait until March every year to get our season going or for Arnie to do something useful? If I hear Mark and his team use the 'we get better in the second half of the season' line again, I'll punch my computer. March is an age away mate. We'll put a decent run together before then. Every team in the league has poor spells and good thoughout the campaign, it isn't unique to us. We shouldn't get too carried away when we hit a bit of form, but we equally shouldn't get suicidal when things aren't going our way. I don't think we'll be in a relegation scrap when we reach the end of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 13:17:07 GMT
Time for Hughes and those 'just what the fcuk do they coach' coaches to go. If we lose against West Ham then id hope they all get the fcuking boot.
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Post by werrington on Oct 30, 2014 13:17:07 GMT
Time for Hughes and those 'just what the fcuk do they coach' coaches to go. If we lose against West Ham then id hope they all get the fcuking boot. Wow And I truly mean fucking wow Given what you have spuriously defended for 10 years I find this post unbelievable
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Oct 30, 2014 13:25:29 GMT
"It isn't time to panic just yet"! True but I like your "little faith" being supported by the need not to panic YET! Precisely, when do you suggest we start panicking? After the W.H.U. game, away to Spurs, in four games time, the Christmas period? The 2nd best start ever to a premiership season You've lost me Yes, and the easiest start of the lot of them too! We're probably 2-4 points behind where we should be given the teams we've played? Are we going to pick them up against Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd ?
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Post by stokeramblers on Oct 30, 2014 13:28:05 GMT
The 2nd best start ever to a premiership season You've lost me Yes, and the easiest start of the lot of them too! We're probably 2-4 points behind where we should be given the teams we've played? Are we going to pick them up against Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd ? Hmmm well I reckon we might seeing as we beat two of those last season and have already won away at the League champions... We do ok against bigger sides that don't come here to shut up shop and play on the counter....
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Post by thebet365 on Oct 30, 2014 13:33:35 GMT
The 2nd best start ever to a premiership season You've lost me Yes, and the easiest start of the lot of them too! We're probably 2-4 points behind where we should be given the teams we've played? Are we going to pick them up against Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd ? We picked 3 up away at Man City so why not ???
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 30, 2014 13:37:03 GMT
I'm concerned, but not that concerned.
Hughesy will sort it out.
A good performance on Saturday is need though.
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Post by tazi on Oct 30, 2014 13:38:57 GMT
Time for Hughes and those 'just what the fcuk do they coach' coaches to go. If we lose against West Ham then id hope they all get the fcuking boot. Wow And I truly mean fucking wow Given what you have spuriously defended for 10 years I find this post unbelievable There was no need defend it for 10 years was there because it didn't need defending for 10 fcuking years did it?.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Oct 30, 2014 13:45:48 GMT
Totally agree with the opening post; however, I don't think I'm in alone in feeling a little bit disappointed in how we appear to have regressed from the end of last season. Not much needed changing, a bit of tinkering here and there and a few signings to bulk the squad out but, as of yet, we don't seem to have strung many performances together. We play some decent stuff in fits and starts but our shape seems off. Whether it's the formation itself or the players playing within it, I don't know. It just seems a bit clumsy.
Not panicking whatsoever though. Our squad has improved from last season and we'll be fine. It's just a shame we haven't kicked on after the end of last season. Hopefully that will come soon.
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Post by elystokie on Oct 30, 2014 13:46:29 GMT
Wow And I truly mean fucking wow Given what you have spuriously defended for 10 years I find this post unbelievable There was no need defend it for 10 years was there because it didn't need defending for 10 fcuking years did it?. No, everything TFP did was 100 percent perfect. It's why everone loved him unconditionally...
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Post by elystokie on Oct 30, 2014 13:48:18 GMT
Totally agree with the opening post; however, I don't think I'm in alone in feeling a little bit disappointed in how we appear to have regressed from the end of last season. Not much needed changing, a bit of tinkering here and there and a few signings to bulk the squad out but, as of yet, we don't seem to have strung many performances together. We play some decent stuff in fits and starts but our shape seems off. Whether it's the formation itself or the players playing within it, I don't know. It just seems a bit clumsy. Not panicking whatsoever though. Our squad has improved from last season and we'll be fine. It's just a shame we haven't kicked on after the end of last season. Hopefully that will come soon. Losing Odemwingie is one of, if not the biggest factor for me, he transformed us last season.
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Post by thestatusquo on Oct 30, 2014 13:48:59 GMT
I'm not panicking as yet but I do feel uncomfortable, like I'm sickening for something.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 13:52:01 GMT
Totally agree with the opening post; however, I don't think I'm in alone in feeling a little bit disappointed in how we appear to have regressed from the end of last season. Not much needed changing, a bit of tinkering here and there and a few signings to bulk the squad out but, as of yet, we don't seem to have strung many performances together. We play some decent stuff in fits and starts but our shape seems off. Whether it's the formation itself or the players playing within it, I don't know. It just seems a bit clumsy. Not panicking whatsoever though. Our squad has improved from last season and we'll be fine. It's just a shame we haven't kicked on after the end of last season. Hopefully that will come soon. Losing Odemwingie is one of, if not the biggest factor for me, he transformed us last season. He's a massive loss mate. It's easy to forget just how instrumental he was in our transformation last season.
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Oct 30, 2014 13:54:31 GMT
Great post WD.
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Post by dutchstokie on Oct 30, 2014 14:13:35 GMT
Time for Hughes and those 'just what the fcuk do they coach' coaches to go. If we lose against West Ham then id hope they all get the fcuking boot. tazi we get the message Your getting boring now... at least try to be original Youre better off following Leeds fella
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