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Arnie
Sept 23, 2014 22:17:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 22:17:53 GMT
Players like arnie don't shine in a one off game or 20 min sub appearances. Arnie got better the more he played last season when he got accustomed to how his teammates played and how our system worked. The problem is who we leave out but Give the lad a sustained run he will soon be back to his best
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Arnie
Sept 23, 2014 22:18:19 GMT
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Post by tazi on Sept 23, 2014 22:18:19 GMT
Did he what? Last season, when he first signed, was competitive. Now his attitude is pathetic, i don't even think you'd see that type of attitude at a youth match, at any level. I think his attitude was just as bad this time last season mate. He was dire last season, the usual arm waving, daft flicks and no end product. He then had a brilliant four months and I accepted that I'd called it wrong. He's now back to square one again. But people are too blinkered to see it. He's not like Rory, Mama, Ric, Ryan Asmir ect, he doesn't have credit in the SCFC bank, for me I'd probably be looking for £5m in January and use that money on Moses Spot on.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Sept 23, 2014 22:19:02 GMT
I thought he played quite well first half. He's a class act, he will come good, he's obviously a slow starter to the season, he needs to be loved.
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lewando
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Arnie
Sept 23, 2014 22:28:22 GMT
Post by lewando on Sept 23, 2014 22:28:22 GMT
Pants tonight
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Arnie
Sept 23, 2014 22:31:35 GMT
Post by prem4stoke on Sept 23, 2014 22:31:35 GMT
Players like arnie don't shine in a one off game or 20 min sub appearances. Arnie got better the more he played last season when he got accustomed to how his teammates played and how our system worked. The problem is who we leave out but Give the lad a sustained run he will soon be back to his best That is his downfall then isn't it because we have players who right now can play better and put a shift in so why risk it?
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Arnie
Sept 23, 2014 22:37:10 GMT
Post by capto on Sept 23, 2014 22:37:10 GMT
Believe you've gotta pick your best team. If there's a weak link, you can't play him. To get his confidence back, he needs to come on for the last 10/15 mins, when the other team is tired, and he can have a bit more space & time for his tricks - but if this doesn't work, and he becomes a negative factor on the team, he's gotta be shown the door.
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Arnie
Sept 23, 2014 22:42:04 GMT
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Post by seanrjstokie on Sept 23, 2014 22:42:04 GMT
1st chance get back on his back all you twats jump at it. He's a confidence player and so far things just haven't gone his way.. He need a few starts and soon enough he will be back to his best. On his day he's the best attacking player in the squad by a mile. Which is pretty much what you lot were saying a few months back...
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Arnie
Sept 23, 2014 22:46:33 GMT
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Post by upthefud on Sept 23, 2014 22:46:33 GMT
1st chance get back on his back all you twats jump at it. He's a confidence player and so far things just haven't gone his way.. He need a few starts and soon enough he will be back to his best. On his day he's the best attacking player in the squad by a mile. Which is pretty much what you lot were saying a few months back... You make it sound like hes been unlucky and things haven't dropped for him. You make your own luck, he's made nothing. If my output at work was as low as his I'd be up for redundancy
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Arnie
Sept 23, 2014 22:55:57 GMT
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Post by DelapsWankingArm on Sept 23, 2014 22:55:57 GMT
I thought he played quite well first half. He's a class act, he will come good, he's obviously a slow starter to the season, he needs to be loved. Needs to be loved? I'm sure he feels loved by his bank balance.
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Post by GallysGuitar on Sept 23, 2014 22:58:55 GMT
Lack of confidence? Yes. Questionable attitude? Absolutely not. Worked his socks off.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Sept 23, 2014 23:57:31 GMT
I thought he was appalling tonight, and I'm a massive fan of his. It felt at times he was trying to play badly. Turning into player, not closing down, tracking back, bad passes etc. add to that how he went off....
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Arnie
Sept 24, 2014 0:52:11 GMT
Post by redwhite on Sept 24, 2014 0:52:11 GMT
What impatient fans we have.
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Arnie
Sept 24, 2014 1:12:08 GMT
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Sept 24, 2014 1:12:08 GMT
I thought he was appalling tonight, and I'm a massive fan of his. It felt at times he was trying to play badly. Turning into player, not closing down, tracking back, bad passes etc. add to that how he went off.... To be fair he did track back & close down.. agree with the rest though.
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Arnie
Sept 24, 2014 1:21:39 GMT
Post by sonichuth on Sept 24, 2014 1:21:39 GMT
I went to the game and am a bit amazed at all the Arnie hatred. He wasn't particularly great tonight, but thought he still played better than the woeful and disinterested Ireland. He did track back. His shooting is dreadful but we all knew that.
Think he's rounded on by some because he gives an air of arrogance, but I'd rather than a sulky, mardy Arnie playing well than a sub-standard 'honest pro'
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Arnie
Sept 24, 2014 5:39:23 GMT
Post by potterpaul on Sept 24, 2014 5:39:23 GMT
2 or 3 games with the youngsters will work wonders.........well it didn't do Charlie any harm anyway
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Arnie
Sept 24, 2014 6:38:22 GMT
Post by dutchstokie on Sept 24, 2014 6:38:22 GMT
What was the reason Arnautovic and Hughes were having a 'tet a tet' at the end for...?
Any one know?
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Arnie
Sept 24, 2014 6:47:32 GMT
Post by homer32 on Sept 24, 2014 6:47:32 GMT
I was so looking forward to see Arnie this season after the way he finished last season and it has been such a let down.I think Moses coming in and taking his preferred place has put his nose out of joint.If he doesn't get his head down and work then he needs to go as he is a bad apple.Someone mentioned getting £5m for him in Jan at present we wouldn't get 5p for him.
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Arnie
Sept 24, 2014 6:48:14 GMT
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Post by stacks on Sept 24, 2014 6:48:14 GMT
No doubt he is very talented as he showed us last year. I think allot of people have got it spot on regarding his confidence.
He is frustrating to watch at times and last night was no exception. He was sulky and petulant at times and if it continues then I feel more fans will turn on him.
Being a fantastic exciting player isn't enough if you have the incorrect attitude IMO. At the minute I think he polarises opinion amongst fans.
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Arnie
Sept 24, 2014 7:43:07 GMT
Post by kurt on Sept 24, 2014 7:43:07 GMT
Hmmmm.....second half he played very bad and in this condition he does not deserve a start, there ist no doubt....but how many of you think, that he didn´t have a good first half?? .....i´m very surprised, cause he created chances, won the ball by tracking back, and he was a threat on the right.... i saw us dominating Sunderland in the first 45 minutes with Arni.
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Arnie
Sept 24, 2014 7:46:22 GMT
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 24, 2014 7:46:22 GMT
Stoke fans celebrating a players poor form.
Unsurprising.
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Arnie
Sept 24, 2014 8:46:49 GMT
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Post by tazi on Sept 24, 2014 8:46:49 GMT
Stoke fans highlighting a players poor form. Unsurprising. I'd say they're entitled to.
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Arnie
Sept 24, 2014 8:57:30 GMT
Post by foster on Sept 24, 2014 8:57:30 GMT
Piss poor by Arnie in all aspects.
Like watching an 80 minute version of the Edu cameo.
Looks to be lacking everything at the moment and miles behind the pace of the game.
Saying that, Ireland was uber-shit too.
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Arnie
Sept 24, 2014 8:59:32 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Sept 24, 2014 8:59:32 GMT
How did he look fitness wise?
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Arnie
Sept 24, 2014 9:04:21 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 9:04:21 GMT
I personally couldn't give a flying fuck how good he was last season when he shows the dis-interest and lack of effort of last night. He should have been out to impress the management after getting a start and we were greeted with utter garbage from him, his performance was pretty embarrassing and how he lasted so long is beyond me. Moses did more in 5 minutes than Arnie did all game. Theer is out of form/lack of confidence then there is sulking, lack of effort and dis-interest with Arnie being the latter. Very disappointing from him.
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Arnie
Sept 24, 2014 9:09:51 GMT
Post by foster on Sept 24, 2014 9:09:51 GMT
I personally couldn't give a flying fuck how good he was last season when he shows the dis-interest and lack of effort of last night. He should have been out to impress the management after getting a start and we were greeted with utter garbage from him, his performance was pretty embarrassing and how he lasted so long is beyond me. Moses did more in 5 minutes than Arnie did all game. Theer is out of form/lack of confidence then there is sulking, lack of effort and dis-interest with Arnie being the latter. Very disappointing from him. That's true. I thought Diouf was poor last night, but he tried all game at least.
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Arnie
Sept 24, 2014 9:11:02 GMT
Post by foster on Sept 24, 2014 9:11:02 GMT
How did he look fitness wise? Off the pace, weak physically for someone of his size. Even tried to Rugby tackle someone before falling to the ground and pretending to get hit in the face.
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Post by werrington on Sept 24, 2014 9:32:14 GMT
@muniesa92: Amazing night!!! I'm very happy with my two goals and for coming on to help the team to win!!???????????Goaaaarn Stoke!!! t.co/51M3kxsjMVTo those who think his reaction to this goal was one of a disinterested player Does that mean Ireland is the same ? It's called an Arnie agenda
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Arnie
Sept 24, 2014 9:38:49 GMT
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Post by tazi on Sept 24, 2014 9:38:49 GMT
Yes you've all got an agenda against a very mush so underperforming individual plying his trade in your beloved red and white stripes whilst paying good money to witness it.
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Post by Stokie Mcpot on Sept 24, 2014 9:41:35 GMT
@muniesa92: Amazing night!!! I'm very happy with my two goals and for coming on to help the team to win!!???????????Goaaaarn Stoke!!! t.co/51M3kxsjMVTo those who think his reaction to this goal was one of a disinterested player Does that mean Ireland is the same ? It's called an Arnie agenda Off topic, but who would have ever imagined an ex barca player saying "goaaarrrn stoke!"?
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Arnie
Sept 24, 2014 9:45:37 GMT
Post by Pugsley on Sept 24, 2014 9:45:37 GMT
Let's all add 2 and 2 and make 5
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