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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 12, 2014 21:56:34 GMT
Second for me, he never won anything, the ultimate sign of success. I agree on the winning aspect mate. I just missed the Waddington era so Pulis gets my vote. I don't think it matters if you saw it or not. Winning shit is the pinnacle.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 12, 2014 21:57:21 GMT
It appeared in the Sun (no sniggering)' but was printed word for word about his vision in taking the club forward. He wrote about copying the German model with 'money ball' being the prevailing influence.Really interesting read. Can't believe some of you haven't seen it. Just tried to get the link, but don't have access to the Sun online. Obviously. Type in 'Tony Pulis blueprint for the future of Stoke.' "Some"? I don't think you'll find any bugger on here that has read it.....
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 12, 2014 21:57:52 GMT
It appeared in the Sun (no sniggering)' but was printed word for word about his vision in taking the club forward. He wrote about copying the German model with 'money ball' being the prevailing influence.Really interesting read. Can't believe some of you haven't seen it. Just tried to get the link, but don't have access to the Sun online. Obviously. Type in 'Tony Pulis blueprint for the future of Stoke.' I'm pretty sure it wasn't printed word for word.
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Post by coates on Sept 12, 2014 21:58:38 GMT
Would we ever of won at man city under pulis?
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Post by march4 on Sept 12, 2014 21:58:45 GMT
It appeared in the Sun (no sniggering)' but was printed word for word about his vision in taking the club forward. He wrote about copying the German model with 'money ball' being the prevailing influence.Really interesting read. Can't believe some of you haven't seen it. Just tried to get the link, but don't have access to the Sun online. Obviously. Type in 'Tony Pulis blueprint for the future of Stoke.' It's a shame real football isn't like a computer game and you can try something before turning back the clock if your plan goes wrong. TP was no idiot, but was his plan a last ditch attempt to keep his job.
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Post by march4 on Sept 12, 2014 21:59:45 GMT
Would we ever of won at man city under pulis? We came close in the cup and I see no reason why not.
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Post by prettything on Sept 12, 2014 22:00:14 GMT
It appeared in the Sun (no sniggering)' but was printed word for word about his vision in taking the club forward. He wrote about copying the German model with 'money ball' being the prevailing influence.Really interesting read. Can't believe some of you haven't seen it. Just tried to get the link, but don't have access to the Sun online. Obviously. Type in 'Tony Pulis blueprint for the future of Stoke.' "Some"? I don't think you'll find any bugger on here that has read it..... Have a look
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 12, 2014 22:01:20 GMT
Would we ever of won at man city under pulis? We came close in the cup and I see no reason why not. How about the fact that we never came close once in the league during his time here?
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Post by robinplumpton on Sept 12, 2014 22:01:47 GMT
Pulls truly is the marmite man....love or hate him thingy Love him - despite what everything else, even your own taste buds are telling you, but you love it, so will champion it Hate him - everything about it is wrong and it leaves a nasty taste in your mouth
reality, I quite like marmite sometimes, but don't think I could stomach it all the time............mmmmmm marmite, food for thought
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 12, 2014 22:02:00 GMT
"Some"? I don't think you'll find any bugger on here that has read it..... Have a look Find us a link.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 12, 2014 22:02:13 GMT
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Post by march4 on Sept 12, 2014 22:03:50 GMT
We came close in the cup and I see no reason why not. How about the fact that we never came close once in the league during his time here? But we did in the cup, in spite of all the 3-0 defeats in the Prem.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 12, 2014 22:03:57 GMT
It appeared in the Sun (no sniggering)' but was printed word for word about his vision in taking the club forward. He wrote about copying the German model with 'money ball' being the prevailing influence.Really interesting read. Can't believe some of you haven't seen it. Just tried to get the link, but don't have access to the Sun online. Obviously. Type in 'Tony Pulis blueprint for the future of Stoke.' It's a shame real football isn't like a computer game and you can try something before turning back the clock if your plan goes wrong. TP was no idiot, but was his plan a last ditch attempt to keep his job. A desperate last ditch plan. He did a great job in keeping Palace up and probably assumed that because he did, the owners of Palace would indulge him in the same way that Coates did. He got a rude awakening, didn't like it and spit his dummy out.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 12, 2014 22:04:39 GMT
The current manager could have done a better job with 100M. He's done a better job with 5M. He signed all the current players did he, didn't have a solid base to build from at all did he, he's done a good job but to say he's done better in one season than a manager that got us promoted and established in the Prem is going a bit far, regardless of money spent.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 12, 2014 22:06:07 GMT
How about the fact that we never came close once in the league during his time here? But we did in the cup, in spite of all the 3-0 defeats in the Prem. Yep. The league was what mattered to him and he essentially wrote those games off.
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Post by Davef on Sept 12, 2014 22:07:03 GMT
"Some"? I don't think you'll find any bugger on here that has read it..... Have a look Nobody's disputing that there were reports in the media that he'd submitted a dossier to Peter and Jon Coates, but it's never been published in any newspaper. And are you seriously trying to suggest that Mark Hughes has implemented some of the ideas in it?
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Post by march4 on Sept 12, 2014 22:07:11 GMT
But we did in the cup, in spite of all the 3-0 defeats in the Prem. Yep. The league was what mattered to him and he essentially wrote those games off. 'Bonus' games!
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Post by upthefud on Sept 12, 2014 22:07:14 GMT
He gave us a team to be genuinely proud of for the first time in a generation.
He laid the foundations for the success that we are currently enjoying.
SCFC legend - some of you ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 12, 2014 22:08:12 GMT
Yep. The league was what mattered to him and he essentially wrote those games off. 'Bonus' games! Indeed. You'd think that would mean there was nothing to lose, but he took the opposite approach.
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Post by prettything on Sept 12, 2014 22:09:01 GMT
That's the interview, yeah. Guff, come on.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 12, 2014 22:11:08 GMT
That's the interview, yeah. Guff, come on. You're taking it 100% at face value despite the fact that he never showed any inclination to put it into practice in all his years in management then?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 12, 2014 22:13:06 GMT
That's the interview, yeah. Guff, come on. It's massive guff! He did what most managers do and then came out with the bullshit that he knew the board wanted to hear! But like me they knew it was guff! It's not a dossier, it's just bullshit that he has shown not to implement in any part of his career!
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Post by prettything on Sept 12, 2014 22:13:57 GMT
Nobody's disputing that there were reports in the media that he'd submitted a dossier to Peter and Jon Coates, but it's never been published in any newspaper. And are you seriously trying to suggest that Mark Hughes has implemented some of the ideas in it? I'm not a Puils apologist. His time came and went, and he did a great job. However , the signing of Pieters and our largely German based transfer dealings, ring true with what he stated in the above interview. Hughes has moved us forward from the solid base that Pulis left, and I for one, will be eternally grateful.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 12, 2014 22:15:27 GMT
Nobody's disputing that there were reports in the media that he'd submitted a dossier to Peter and Jon Coates, but it's never been published in any newspaper. And are you seriously trying to suggest that Mark Hughes has implemented some of the ideas in it? I'm not a Puils apologist. His time came and went, and he did a great job. However , the signing of Pieters and our largely German based transfer dealings, ring true with what he stated in the above interview. Hughes has moved us forward from the solid base that Pulis left, and I for one, will be eternally grateful. He had nothing to do with our German transfer dealings.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 12, 2014 22:17:02 GMT
Ah yes our largely German based transfers from a DOF (for want of a better term) who has big links there and a manager that played there and has actually signed players from Germany before...... Has TP ever signed a player from Germany? One of Triggy or Ziggy perhaps?
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Post by prettything on Sept 12, 2014 22:17:12 GMT
That's the interview, yeah. Guff, come on. You're taking it 100% at face value despite the fact that he never showed any inclination to put it into practice in all his years in management then? We weren't in a position to implement the stated strategy, being Premiership newcomers. He made a lot of mistakes, and overpaid on many players, but what happened, happened. We are a better club for it, warts and all.
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Post by prettything on Sept 12, 2014 22:18:39 GMT
Ah yes our largely German based transfers from a DOF (for want of a better term) who has big links there and a manager that played and has actually signed players from Germany before...... Maybe, who knows. We know for sure Pieters was a Puils signing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 12, 2014 22:18:47 GMT
Thordur Gudjohnsson was indeed from Germany. Fantastic irony!
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Post by owdestokie on Sept 12, 2014 22:19:06 GMT
We all know why he fucked off.......like here, he wanted millions to spend on proven premiership players (don't like looking elsewhere does tone), and palace (sensibly) weren't prepared to put the club at risk!!! Yep ok
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 12, 2014 22:20:51 GMT
You're taking it 100% at face value despite the fact that he never showed any inclination to put it into practice in all his years in management then? We weren't in a position to implement the stated strategy, being Premiership newcomers. He made a lot of mistakes, and overpaid on many players, but what happened, happened. We are a better club for it, warts and all. We signed a player from Uruguay for £3m in our second season. We weren't newcomers after that (thanks to the great job he did), so why could it suddenly be implemented in our sixth season (when coincidentally he was fighting for his job) but couldn't in our fourth or fifth?
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