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Post by jeycov on Aug 25, 2014 15:45:19 GMT
If he does go - and it would be a good move for him on the face of it - I wish the lad nothing but success. Vastly underated by many here and down right maligned by some. Great pity it hasnt gone to plan here. I find it a little sad that we are turning into one of those clubs that just has a steady turn around of overseas players who stay for a couple of years and then move on. Yes good luck to him
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 15:49:58 GMT
If he does go - and it would be a good move for him on the face of it - I wish the lad nothing but success. Vastly underated by many here and down right maligned by some. Great pity it hasnt gone to plan here. I find it a little sad that we are turning into one of those clubs that just has a steady turn around of overseas players who stay for a couple of years and then move on. British players cost money we're not prepared to invest any longer though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2014 15:51:27 GMT
If he does go - and it would be a good move for him on the face of it - I wish the lad nothing but success. Vastly underated by many here and down right maligned by some. Great pity it hasnt gone to plan here. I find it a little sad that we are turning into one of those clubs that just has a steady turn around of overseas players who stay for a couple of years and then move on. British players cost money we're not prepared to invest any longer though. And the ones we did have been hit and miss. Big money for Crouch and Huth-hit. Big money for Tuncay and Whitehead-miss.
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Post by spiderpuss on Aug 25, 2014 16:12:34 GMT
Forgot he was still here. Good move for him, never going to get a game at Stoke.
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Post by PotterLee on Aug 25, 2014 17:07:35 GMT
He signed a loan deal so he could play tomorrow night but he's agreed a 3yr deal which will be confirmed at a later date.
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on Aug 25, 2014 17:08:17 GMT
Sounds like a good move for all concerned. He deserves a chance. All the best, Ryan, even if it is bloody Derby.
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 25, 2014 17:09:32 GMT
He signed a loan deal so he could play tomorrow night but he's agreed a 3yr deal which will be confirmed at a later date. What sort of fee are we looking at?
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 25, 2014 17:10:19 GMT
Good luck Shotts, hope it all goes to plan.
Undisclosed fee as well, less than 500k you would think?
Regardless, still good business for all concerned.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 17:12:48 GMT
Quite funny how SSN keep reporting on the move but cant even find a picture of him
should do well in the championship - premier league 'no mark' though, we had to move on
good luck to him - but I fear he will never have it so good ever again
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 25, 2014 17:17:06 GMT
Good luck young man I think you are much better player than many on here give you credit for .
Mclaren is a great coach and you will improve too and be well out of the local Hanley crap that seems to pop up now and then nobody I derby will care
You have a Been a great servant and never done anything but play where and when asked and given your all .
Good luck hope to see you in the premier league next season .
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 25, 2014 17:23:31 GMT
Good luck young man I think you are much better player than many on here give you credit for . Mclaren is a great coach and you will improve too and be well out of the local Hanley crap that seems to pop up now and then nobody I derby will care You have a Been a great servant and never done anything but play where and when asked and given your all . Good luck hope to see you in the premier league next season . Derby's 30 miles down the road. You think he isn't going to commute? But I agree with everything else. I've never disliked Shotts. He always gave his all and I hope he does blossom under McClaren, even if it is for the Sheepshaggers
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Post by PotterLee on Aug 25, 2014 17:43:41 GMT
He signed a loan deal so he could play tomorrow night but he's agreed a 3yr deal which will be confirmed at a later date. What sort of fee are we looking at? 500k
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Post by adi on Aug 25, 2014 17:48:36 GMT
Good news. We needed to shift out some players with us having 3 players in that position already he wasn't going to get a game.
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Post by 2004 on Aug 25, 2014 17:50:51 GMT
Good luck to him. Not actually that bad a player.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 25, 2014 18:07:06 GMT
Derby official site makes no mention of a permanent move But Spinksy seems to think a 3-yr permanent deal is inked in as well and he's only signed on loan initially to ensure he can play tomorrow. And our off site says it's "with a view to a permanent deal"If it is 500k, Derby have got a good deal - but don't suppose we could realistically ask for more for a player who wasn't in the shake-up here entering his final year under contract
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2014 18:11:23 GMT
Derby official site makes no mention of a permanent move But Spinksy seems to think a 3-yr permanent deal is inked in as well and he's only signed on loan initially to ensure he can play tomorrow. And our off site says it's "with a view to a permanent deal"If it is 500k, Derby have got a good deal - but don't suppose we could realistically ask for more Spinksy didn't know about the loan until it was already announced!
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 25, 2014 18:12:15 GMT
The actual games that he played right back I thought he did moderately well.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Aug 25, 2014 18:16:46 GMT
A Derby fan pal of mine reckons they've bought him as centre half back up which would be strange. Firstly, Shotton needs game time and could be a decent right back in the championship. Secondly, why sign Shotton if you are after a centre half? I know he played there at youth level and Wigan briefly used him there but I don't think I'd fancy him as a centre half? Seems an odd move for both parties if true.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 25, 2014 18:27:06 GMT
Laughing I agree not even 30 mins from where he lives but he will be less of a target playing for Derby .
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 25, 2014 19:53:37 GMT
A Derby fan pal of mine reckons they've bought him as centre half back up which would be strange. Firstly, Shotton needs game time and could be a decent right back in the championship. Secondly, why sign Shotton if you are after a centre half? I know he played there at youth level and Wigan briefly used him there but I don't think I'd fancy him as a centre half? Seems an odd move for both parties if true. Played there on loan for Barnsley as well. I think that's actually his position, but TP didn't trust him there so played him at full-back.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Aug 25, 2014 19:57:10 GMT
A Derby fan pal of mine reckons they've bought him as centre half back up which would be strange. Firstly, Shotton needs game time and could be a decent right back in the championship. Secondly, why sign Shotton if you are after a centre half? I know he played there at youth level and Wigan briefly used him there but I don't think I'd fancy him as a centre half? Seems an odd move for both parties if true. Played there on loan for Barnsley as well. I think that's actually his position, but TP didn't trust him there so played him at full-back. TP loved playing centre halves at fullback. Huth, woodgate, Shawcross, Wilson, shotton, Cameron...
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Post by slpmarc on Aug 25, 2014 19:57:14 GMT
A Derby fan pal of mine reckons they've bought him as centre half back up which would be strange. Firstly, Shotton needs game time and could be a decent right back in the championship. Secondly, why sign Shotton if you are after a centre half? I know he played there at youth level and Wigan briefly used him there but I don't think I'd fancy him as a centre half? Seems an odd move for both parties if true. Played there on loan for Barnsley as well. I think that's actually his position, but TP didn't trust him there so played him at full-back. Rephrase that, Pulis played him everywhere apart from is best position Centre back, he came all the way through the academy with rave reviews as a centre back, when he first joined the academy he thought he was a striker but quickly adapted to the CB position that the club thought was best for him.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 25, 2014 21:10:12 GMT
Played there on loan for Barnsley as well. I think that's actually his position, but TP didn't trust him there so played him at full-back. Rephrase that, Pulis played him everywhere apart from is best position Centre back, he came all the way through the academy with rave reviews as a centre back, when he first joined the academy he thought he was a striker but quickly adapted to the CB position that the club thought was best for him. In actual fact he started at the academy as a CB, he was moved to CF where he scored loads of goals possibly due to his athletic/physical attributes at a young age, he then reverted back to CB, Pulis decided he was a winger , local lad who got his chance has been living the dream, suspect temperament let's see how good he really is away from the goldfish bowl of Stoke-on-Trent and his mates around Cheddleton, Pulis rated him was he right we will see.
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 25, 2014 21:10:36 GMT
Played there on loan for Barnsley as well. I think that's actually his position, but TP didn't trust him there so played him at full-back. Rephrase that, Pulis played him everywhere apart from is best position Centre back, he came all the way through the academy with rave reviews as a centre back, when he first joined the academy he thought he was a striker but quickly adapted to the CB position that the club thought was best for him. I remember him coming on as sub against Castle Town as centre half years ago- usual pre-season friendly with loads of academy lads taking to the field. Although it was only a kickabout you could tell that he was head and shoulders above the other kids in terms of ability. I wasn't surprised at all when he started to move up the ranks and eventually broke into the team. It's a shame that people wrote him off just because he looked absolutely wank as a right winger. He never go a fair deal after that from the crowd, but I think he'll do pretty well in the Championship if given a run of games at centre-back. That is probably his level, but it's a shame that he's leaving his home town club with many people thinking that he's some sort of joke figure, when he's actually a pretty decent defender. I suppose he's got TP to thank for that.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 25, 2014 21:39:10 GMT
Rephrase that, Pulis played him everywhere apart from is best position Centre back, he came all the way through the academy with rave reviews as a centre back, when he first joined the academy he thought he was a striker but quickly adapted to the CB position that the club thought was best for him. I remember him coming on as sub against Castle Town as centre half years ago- usual pre-season friendly with loads of academy lads taking to the field. Although it was only a kickabout you could tell that he was head and shoulders above the other kids in terms of ability. I wasn't surprised at all when he started to move up the ranks and eventually broke into the team. It's a shame that people wrote him off just because he looked absolutely wank as a right winger. He never go a fair deal after that from the crowd, but I think he'll do pretty well in the Championship if given a run of games at centre-back. That is probably his level, but it's a shame that he's leaving his home town club with many people thinking that he's some sort of joke figure, when he's actually a pretty decent defender. I suppose he's got TP to thank for that. Yes I remember that game 2005 I think came on as a sub, think it may have been Boskamp manager at the time, he was fuckin awful at CH, looked well out of his depth Wilko or Dicko covering him twice no positional sense dragged out wide by part timers, lucky boy in my opinion if he had not been local would he have had the opportunities he has had at Stoke ?
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Post by chinesedave on Aug 25, 2014 21:50:22 GMT
The thicker element have always needed a scapegoat.
Good luck at Derby Ryan.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 25, 2014 21:57:33 GMT
Good luck to him. His best game for us by a mile was at home to Tottenham when ironically he played on the right wing!
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Post by ohhgeorgieberry on Aug 26, 2014 5:55:30 GMT
Yeh that bloody pullis why did he never drop Hugh or shawcross cause we all know shotton is a centre half
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 26, 2014 5:59:46 GMT
Yeh that bloody pullis why did he never drop Hugh or shawcross cause we all know shotton is a centre half
Pulis had him down as a winger in the mould of Gareth Bale
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 26, 2014 6:13:22 GMT
A Derby fan pal of mine reckons they've bought him as centre half back up which would be strange. Firstly, Shotton needs game time and could be a decent right back in the championship. Secondly, why sign Shotton if you are after a centre half? I know he played there at youth level and Wigan briefly used him there but I don't think I'd fancy him as a centre half? Seems an odd move for both parties if true. At Barnsley on loan the opinion of the fans seemed to be that he was a decent right back but had the ability to be an excellent centre back. The fact is that, during all his time at Stoke under TP, Shawcross and Huth reigned supreme and he was never going to break that partnership up as a centre back. I thought he did well when he got a decent run at right back for us under TP, but it would not surprise me if he doesn't make the grade at centre back. He's very mobile for a tall bloke and could do well in the Championship at cb if given the chance. For what it is worth I think Ryan has been unlucky in his time at Stoke. He couldn't break up the cb partnership (see above) but if he had been played regularly at right back I think he'd have built up a decent reputation there. Instead, he got played as a winger, a centre forward and a right back. It is no wonder he didn't cement a place - imagine if Shawcross or Huth had been asked to play in as many games in those three positions as Shotton - would they have done any better than him? I don't know why Hughes never tried him at right back even when he came back from Wigan - it was clear that Cameron is not a natural right back - even though I personally thought he did a better job than some give him credit for.
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