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Post by metalhead on Aug 16, 2014 17:14:19 GMT
To answer the question Cameron still looks as shit as he always was. Like he did in the 2nd match in the world cup. Man of the match in the first.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Aug 16, 2014 17:17:32 GMT
To answer the question Cameron still looks as shit as he always was. Like he did in the 2nd match in the world cup. Man of the match in the first. Yep shows how inconsistent he his then, from man of the match to shit of the match
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 17:18:48 GMT
Bardsley's first touch let him down today, he made some good runs though and I'd give him a few more games before writing him off.
I like Cameron and while he started last season well, he was poor towards the end of the season and his crossing was shocking, I don't think he'd have made the difference today. Geoff is not a natural fullback for me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 17:20:01 GMT
To answer the question Cameron still looks as shit as he always was. Like he did in the 2nd match in the world cup. Spot on. We looked so much better in his absence today.
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Post by claudinho on Aug 16, 2014 17:22:51 GMT
Bardsley's first touch let him down today, he made some good runs though and I'd give him a few more games before writing him off. I like Cameron and while he started last season well, he was poor towards the end of the season and his crossing was shocking, I don't think he'd have made the difference today. Geoff is not a natural fullback for me. I was told weeks ago that Bardsley was a better option because he was a "natural fullback." If that's what a natural fullback looks like, I prefer Cameron.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 16, 2014 17:25:28 GMT
Fuck me, let's sack the fucking lot of them then because they had an off game
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Post by march4 on Aug 16, 2014 17:26:57 GMT
It was bad enough today, imagine if Cameron had played!!!
Christ Almighty it could have finished 3 or 4 goals against.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 17:31:06 GMT
It was bad enough today, imagine if Cameron had played!!! Christ Almighty it could have finished 3 or 4 goals against. You keep your head in the sand flower.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 16, 2014 17:38:15 GMT
Bardsley's first touch let him down today, he made some good runs though and I'd give him a few more games before writing him off. I like Cameron and while he started last season well, he was poor towards the end of the season and his crossing was shocking, I don't think he'd have made the difference today. Geoff is not a natural fullback for me. You forgot his inability to dribble... and his first touch which in our new hughes style and formarion is a must, my main worry about today its early yes but it needs improvement.
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Post by march4 on Aug 16, 2014 17:41:21 GMT
It was bad enough today, imagine if Cameron had played!!! Christ Almighty it could have finished 3 or 4 goals against. You keep your head in the sand flower. Cameron will never be good enough for the Prem - end of story.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 16, 2014 17:50:38 GMT
You keep your head in the sand flower. Cameron will never be good enough for the Prem - end of story. Rich coming from no pace boy...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 16, 2014 18:11:07 GMT
Wank?
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 16, 2014 18:12:38 GMT
Bardsley has poor game = Geoff Cameron is Paul Breitner
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Post by roylandstoke on Aug 16, 2014 18:20:34 GMT
You keep your head in the sand flower. Cameron will never be good enough for the Prem - end of story. Can´t ever imagine Geoff Cameron being an almost ever present for a top half Premiership team can you? Well stop trying ´cause it happened.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 16, 2014 18:23:57 GMT
You keep your head in the sand flower. Cameron will never be good enough for the Prem - end of story. I agree as a right back, still time to see what he can do elsewhere.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2014 7:55:32 GMT
Where has the Geoff Cameron myth been born from? He came as a centre back come centre midfielder and two successive managers haven't trusted him there so they play him right back. The second manager in his first act in the transfer window replaces him. You then have a third manager involved, Jurgen Klinsmann. Who decides to play his defender who is playing at the highest level not in the position he plays for at his club. Which is strange, right? He then after some error strewn performances in the World Cup, drops but then reinstates him in his third position. It doesn't spell out "worth getting your knickers in a twist about" when dropped.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 17, 2014 8:00:02 GMT
I thought Bardsley did OK I'd actually like to see GCam in for Whelan. I think he has the attributes to be a cracking DM.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 17, 2014 8:03:27 GMT
I thought Bardsley did OK I'd actually like to see GCam in for Whelan. I think he has the attributes to be a cracking DM. That would be what I would do for the Hull game. I think I might even partner Cameron with Sidwell in centre mid in the cup game to see how that pairing works out.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2014 8:13:13 GMT
Midfield is where I want to see him.
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 17, 2014 8:14:01 GMT
Some people need to let it go.
Bardsley may or may not be the long term answer for the position (I've got my doubts), but him having a bit of a dodgy game doesn't make playing Geoff at right back any more appealing.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 17, 2014 8:48:37 GMT
If Cameron had had the game Bardsley had yesterday his fan club would've been on here telling us he was brilliant.
So far I've seen people writing off Bardsley, Whelan, Bojan, Arnie, Diouf and Ireland on the basis of one crap performance.
Shall we all just calm down a bit?
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Post by lordb on Aug 17, 2014 8:55:32 GMT
Our problems lie in the centre of the park. Mystified how Sidwell wasn't playing and Whelan was. Midfield three were all appalling yesterday. I see Sidwell in Nzonzis role rather than Whelans. Geoff would be a more natural replacement for Glenn. Or Wilson with Huth back. Worst game for a year.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 17, 2014 8:58:09 GMT
Our problems lie in the centre of the park. Mystified how Sidwell wasn't playing and Whelan was. Because Whelan was one of our best players last season and Sidwell isn't the same kind of player?
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 17, 2014 8:58:09 GMT
If Cameron had had the game Bardsley had yesterday his fan club would've been on here telling us he was brilliant. So far I've seen people writing off Bardsley, Whelan, Bojan, Arnie, Diouf and Ireland on the basis of one crap performance. Shall we all just calm down a bit? It's the strangest obsession I think I've ever known on here Rob. You literally can't say a word out of place about Geoff without someone jumping down your throat.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 17, 2014 9:00:06 GMT
If Cameron had had the game Bardsley had yesterday his fan club would've been on here telling us he was brilliant. So far I've seen people writing off Bardsley, Whelan, Bojan, Arnie, Diouf and Ireland on the basis of one crap performance. Shall we all just calm down a bit? It's the strangest obsession I think I've ever known on here Rob. You literally can't say a word out of place about Geoff without someone jumping down your throat. I thought Bardsley was poor yesterday but no worse than Geoff. That's not a good thing, obviously, but it's hilarious that the people behaving as if Cameron was Cafu and turned a huge blind eye to his flaws are now quick to find them in Bardsley after one game. Agenda much?
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 17, 2014 9:06:56 GMT
It's the strangest obsession I think I've ever known on here Rob. You literally can't say a word out of place about Geoff without someone jumping down your throat. I thought Bardsley was poor yesterday but no worse than Geoff. That's not a good thing, obviously, but it's hilarious that the people behaving as if Cameron was Cafu and turned a huge blind eye to his flaws are now quick to find them in Bardsley after one game. Agenda much? Nah you've got it wrong mate, we're the ones with the agenda remember. Anti American
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 9:36:04 GMT
It's the strangest obsession I think I've ever known on here Rob. You literally can't say a word out of place about Geoff without someone jumping down your throat. I thought Bardsley was poor yesterday but no worse than Geoff. That's not a good thing, obviously, but it's hilarious that the people behaving as if Cameron was Cafu and turned a huge blind eye to his flaws are now quick to find them in Bardsley after one game. Agenda much? I'm not writing Bardsley off. Hopefully there's more to come from him. The people that said we don't need Geoff anymore look fucking ridiculous though.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 17, 2014 9:37:43 GMT
I thought Bardsley was poor yesterday but no worse than Geoff. That's not a good thing, obviously, but it's hilarious that the people behaving as if Cameron was Cafu and turned a huge blind eye to his flaws are now quick to find them in Bardsley after one game. Agenda much? I'm not writing Bardsley off. Hopefully there's more to come from him. The people that said we don't need Geoff anymore looking fucking ridiculous though. I'm happy for him to stay as versatile cover if he's prepared to do that. I won't lose any sleep if he goes and I don't see what difference he'd have made yesterday.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 17, 2014 9:42:11 GMT
I thought Bardsley was poor yesterday but no worse than Geoff. That's not a good thing, obviously, but it's hilarious that the people behaving as if Cameron was Cafu and turned a huge blind eye to his flaws are now quick to find them in Bardsley after one game. Agenda much? I'm not writing Bardsley off. Hopefully there's more to come from him. The people that said we don't need Geoff anymore look fucking ridiculous though. I think people have always seen him as a good option in the squad, WD. But is he happy to be 2nd choice RB, 5th CB and some kind of reserve option (maybe) for Whelan? I'm very underwhelmed by Bardsley - but he is clearly the Hughes option in at least medium-term at RB. So, at 29, where does that leave Geoff id he wants more than the odd start?
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Post by s7oke on Aug 17, 2014 9:49:35 GMT
Watching Bardsley today it struck me that it was exactly like watching Cameron, but without the saving grace of being good on the ball. Also he is too one footed and doesn't cut inside well so IMHO I think Cameron is the better player with more to offer the team
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