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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 1, 2014 15:31:23 GMT
With Jimmy Anderson available to play, no reason we cant go 2-1 up at Old Trafford.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 16:44:36 GMT
India to charge Moeen Ali with indecent use of a beard.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 16:51:25 GMT
Plunkett for Jordan, with the instruction that if he bowls bodyline he'll never play for England again. Other than that I'd leave it as it was. Think we'll do the Indians over the next 2 games, got a good feeling......
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 17:03:43 GMT
Plunkett for Jordan, with the instruction that if he bowls bodyline he'll never play for England again. Other than that I'd leave it as it was. Think we'll do the Indians over the next 2 games, got a good feeling...... Agreed . The short stuff was very over used by Plunkett , I think he was told to dig it in at them , but over the top for me .I think we will win the series now |
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Post by harrysburrow on Aug 1, 2014 17:23:39 GMT
You'd drop Jordan rather than Woakes then?
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 1, 2014 17:30:20 GMT
You'd drop Jordan rather than Woakes then? Jordan's bowling looked poor. Sprayed it everywhere at times. Woakes looked significantly better and was unlucky not to end up with a few wickets IHO. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 19:18:55 GMT
You'd drop Jordan rather than Woakes then? Long term I still like the look of Jordan , but he was all over the place , Woakes bowled pretty well on the whole , I'm not his biggest fan , but we need someone to put it on the spot in the next Test , we need to be able to keep one end quiet .....normally the spinner would do this , but as well as Moeen has done , if he doesn't take wickets he will go for a few runs , that's not a criticism of the lad it's just the nature of his bowling |
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 1, 2014 20:12:52 GMT
You'd drop Jordan rather than Woakes then? Long term I still like the look of Jordan , but he was all over the place , Woakes bowled pretty well on the whole , I'm not his biggest fan , but we need someone to put it on the spot in the next Test , we need to be able to keep one end quiet .....normally the spinner would do this , but as well as Moeen has done , if he doesn't take wickets he will go for a few runs , that's not a criticism of the lad it's just the nature of his bowling Agreed. Back to that old chestnut - pick the best bowlers. Woakes deserves another shot as #8 bat and 4th seamer. But we need a third seamer! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 20:29:30 GMT
Long term I still like the look of Jordan , but he was all over the place , Woakes bowled pretty well on the whole , I'm not his biggest fan , but we need someone to put it on the spot in the next Test , we need to be able to keep one end quiet .....normally the spinner would do this , but as well as Moeen has done , if he doesn't take wickets he will go for a few runs , that's not a criticism of the lad it's just the nature of his bowling Agreed. Back to that old chestnut - pick the best bowlers. Woakes deserves another shot as #8 bat and 4th seamer. But we need a third seamer! Well for me Finn is the only candidate ....the cupboard is rather bare otherwise , or are we in the position where we may have to take another look at the likes of Tremlett ? On the evidence of the winter performance that wouldn't be the way you'd want to go ? |
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 1, 2014 21:12:31 GMT
Agreed. Back to that old chestnut - pick the best bowlers. Woakes deserves another shot as #8 bat and 4th seamer. But we need a third seamer! Well for me Finn is the only candidate ....the cupboard is rather bare otherwise , or are we in the position where we may have to take another look at the likes of Tremlett ? On the evidence of the winter performance that wouldn't be the way you'd want to go ? Finn or Plunket. I'd prefer Finn. Tremlett blew it in Australia. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 21:32:19 GMT
Well for me Finn is the only candidate ....the cupboard is rather bare otherwise , or are we in the position where we may have to take another look at the likes of Tremlett ? On the evidence of the winter performance that wouldn't be the way you'd want to go ? Finn or Plunket. I'd prefer Finn. Tremlett blew it in Australia. How did Tremlett blow it in Australia? He only played in 1 test, it wasn't his fault that part of England's plan was "Let's take tall fast hit the deck bowlers and not play them" |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 21:51:54 GMT
Finn or Plunket. I'd prefer Finn. Tremlett blew it in Australia. How did Tremlett blow it in Australia? He only played in 1 test, it wasn't his fault that part of England's plan was "Let's take tall fast hit the deck bowlers and not play them" In the past I have been an advocate of Tremlett , on the 2010/ 11 tour in Australia he bowled several match winning spells , since then however he has only been a shadow of what he was then ....mainly because of Injuries....I don't think he justified selection for last winters tour , it was plainly based on the previous tours performances ....that one Test that he did play was disappointing ., he looked at odds with himself , ambling in and turning his arm over at early to mid 70's mph he certainly didn't bowl it fast and hit the deck hard ....in fact he bowled some pretty insipid stuff, that having been said , if he could get his body working again and stay free from injury , I wouldn't rule him out from playing again , after all we are not well blessed with wicket taking fast bowlers at the moment.... |
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 1, 2014 22:33:00 GMT
Agreed. Back to that old chestnut - pick the best bowlers. Woakes deserves another shot as #8 bat and 4th seamer. But we need a third seamer! Well for me Finn is the only candidate ....the cupboard is rather bare otherwise , or are we in the position where we may have to take another look at the likes of Tremlett ? On the evidence of the winter performance that wouldn't be the way you'd want to go ? Agree about Tremlett it will be interesting to see what Plunkett can do if allowed to bowl properly on a half decent pitch, long term I think Finn is still the better option but Woakes bowled quickly and moved it, these few extra mph make all the difference and stop batsman taking liberties. I actually think the cupboard is looking pretty good Jordan, Stokes, Finn, Willey, Topley, Meaker, Dunn, J Overton, C Overton and Gregory to name a few look good and lively at county level and are an improvement on Tim Bresnan. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 23:01:12 GMT
Well for me Finn is the only candidate ....the cupboard is rather bare otherwise , or are we in the position where we may have to take another look at the likes of Tremlett ? On the evidence of the winter performance that wouldn't be the way you'd want to go ? Agree about Tremlett it will be interesting to see what Plunkett can do if allowed to bowl properly on a half decent pitch, long term I think Finn is still the better option but Woakes bowled quickly and moved it, these few extra mph make all the difference and stop batsman taking liberties. I actually think the cupboard is looking pretty good Jordan, Stokes, Finn, Willey, Topley, Meaker, Dunn, J Overton, C Overton and Gregory to name a few look good and lively at county level and are an improvement on Tim Bresnan. Of course anyone is an improvement on Bresnan !.....some of those names are of interest , Finn, Stokes and Jordan we know about and I'm sure we will see plenty more of them , Meaker is one I had hopes for he's on the livelier side of fast medium , a few injury problems this year ..but his time is yet to come , Willey I'm not sure about at test level , certainly a good shout for limited overs cricket ....perhaps he will develop his game from there ,the Overtons are an interesting one ....are they both quick ? I've only caught a couple of fleeting appearances of them , I got the impression one of them was only a medium pacer ? |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 2, 2014 0:53:37 GMT
I'm of the opinion that getting Finn firing should be a priority for the ECB.
90 Test wickets at 29.40 and only 25.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 2, 2014 5:31:54 GMT
Finn or Plunket. I'd prefer Finn. Tremlett blew it in Australia. How did Tremlett blow it in Australia? He only played in 1 test, it wasn't his fault that part of England's plan was "Let's take tall fast hit the deck bowlers and not play them" Bish summed this up better than me; in the one test Tremlett played he produced the most insipid "fast" bowling performance I've ever seen. Watching him ambling in bowling at 75-78 mph was car crash cricket. It was also desperately sad. Tremlett at his best was awesome - and we saw his best on the earlier tour down under. But it would appear that huge frame of his, after so many injuries, can no longer bear the rigours of fast bowling. And medium pace, even with his height, doesn't cut it at test match level. |
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 2, 2014 7:29:55 GMT
Agree about Tremlett it will be interesting to see what Plunkett can do if allowed to bowl properly on a half decent pitch, long term I think Finn is still the better option but Woakes bowled quickly and moved it, these few extra mph make all the difference and stop batsman taking liberties. I actually think the cupboard is looking pretty good Jordan, Stokes, Finn, Willey, Topley, Meaker, Dunn, J Overton, C Overton and Gregory to name a few look good and lively at county level and are an improvement on Tim Bresnan. Of course anyone is an improvement on Bresnan !.....some of those names are of interest , Finn, Stokes and Jordan we know about and I'm sure we will see plenty more of them , Meaker is one I had hopes for he's on the livelier side of fast medium , a few injury problems this year ..but his time is yet to come , Willey I'm not sure about at test level , certainly a good shout for limited overs cricket ....perhaps he will develop his game from there ,the Overtons are an interesting one ....are they both quick ? I've only caught a couple of fleeting appearances of them , I got the impression one of them was only a medium pacer ? Meaker needs to move on from Surrey seems to have fallen out of favour for some reason much like Jordan did before going to Sussex. I like Willey as well as being a left armer he seems to get up people's noses like Broad, Jamie Overton is a genuine quick who can also bat Craig is a batsman who bowls more Fast Medium but has had back problems so hasn't been going full pelt - be interesting to see how he gets on for the Lions. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 13:04:26 GMT
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Post by harrysburrow on Aug 3, 2014 14:23:38 GMT
I hope his tail is up and he gets his chance. I'd also like to see a bit more of Jimmy's attitude too?
He's big and quick - but way too "friendly".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 14:40:38 GMT
I hope his tail is up and he gets his chance. I'd also like to see a bit more of Jimmy's attitude too? He's big and quick - but way too "friendly". True and Jimmy has plenty of it to spare .....Glad to see Finn back in the mix |
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Post by Robo10 on Aug 4, 2014 3:19:42 GMT
Going on the Saturday, looking forward to it
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 4, 2014 9:59:01 GMT
How come they never start Tests on a Friday? A Friday start would surely mean the first 3 days having full grounds,with the opening day and Saturday and Sunday too.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 11:44:10 GMT
 India just won't let it lie!India have written to the International Cricket Council to express their disappointment after England's James Anderson was found not guilty of a breach of conduct. Sad, sad, sad, sad losers.
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 5, 2014 12:26:21 GMT
India just won't let it lie!India have written to the International Cricket Council to express their disappointment after England's James Anderson was found not guilty of a breach of conduct. Sad, sad, sad, sad losers. They need to have a bit of class here and just let it go. I thought the Indians were better than that. |
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 6, 2014 6:07:14 GMT
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 6, 2014 9:42:18 GMT
This does seem to be only one side of the story though. If it was that clear cut surely Anderson would have been found guilty. |
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 6, 2014 10:22:45 GMT
This does seem to be only one side of the story though. If it was that clear cut surely Anderson would have been found guilty. Or maybe they agreed with Anderson that Dhoni is indeed a "f***ing fat c***"! |
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Aug 6, 2014 10:38:34 GMT
Seems like a good time to bring these up again... Jimmy could certainly learn a lesson on how to do it properly...  Funny sledging quotes |
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 6, 2014 11:22:40 GMT
Seems like a good time to bring these up again... Jimmy could certainly learn a lesson on how to do it properly... Funny sledging quotesGreat list, but hard to believe they missed the greatest sledge if all time. This account taken from the Independent; |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 6, 2014 13:03:54 GMT
One of the best I heard, was when Fred Trueman was bowling some hostile balls at some Batsman,the Batsman went up to the Umpire to ask for protection. "What sort of protection would you like"?The Umpire asked. "A brick wall between me and that mad bastard Truemen"The batsman replied . |
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