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Post by Maccca100 on Aug 11, 2014 17:18:44 GMT
Redmomd in my eyes is very poor.
You give me an example of ten games where he has changed the game, or made a difference in the outcome.
He is just fast, but so is my whippet. The only difference being my whippet is a better crosser of the ball.
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 11, 2014 17:29:14 GMT
why is there any more pressure on him than there would be on Assaidi? Maybe because he's quite universally wanted on here (rare I know) also the vast majority would prefer Redmond over Assiadi. So that equals pressure. Assaidi is different class to Redmond in my opinion, he's far from the finished article but I think he's far more worth £7m than Redmond is worth £5m.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Aug 11, 2014 17:38:24 GMT
Redmomd in my eyes is very poor. You give me an example of ten games where he has changed the game, or made a difference in the outcome. He is just fast, but so is my whippet. The only difference being my whippet is a better crosser of the ball. Got to agree with you Macca in the games Ive seen him play in he's looked very average.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 11, 2014 17:39:42 GMT
Would like us to sign him, only 20 years old and many years left to improve/mature.
Think this is a smokescreen for Assaidi, who I would probably prefer.
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Post by baystokie on Aug 11, 2014 17:42:14 GMT
Redmomd in my eyes is very poor. You give me an example of ten games where he has changed the game, or made a difference in the outcome. He is just fast, but so is my whippet. The only difference being my whippet is a better crosser of the ball. So what is it that Hughes can see that you can't?
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Post by Maccca100 on Aug 11, 2014 17:47:55 GMT
Redmomd in my eyes is very poor. You give me an example of ten games where he has changed the game, or made a difference in the outcome. He is just fast, but so is my whippet. The only difference being my whippet is a better crosser of the ball. So what is it that Hughes can see that you can't? His Wife?
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Post by skeelsy on Aug 11, 2014 18:47:08 GMT
Redmond has scored 3 (THREE) goals in 82 cup and league appearances in the last 2 seasons, nearly half of them in the Championship. If you are playing a 4-2-3-1 formation you need wide players who can contribute a fair share of goals. IMO we would be crazy to sign him at the fees that are being talked about.
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Post by juiceandbits on Aug 11, 2014 18:47:19 GMT
The difference is you are paying £5 million for a 20-year-old vs initially 4.5 for someone who is 25, so Redmond has more development to come.
Personally though, I would like Assaidi before Redmond.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 11, 2014 19:16:29 GMT
Hmm. Seems he's still very 'raw' And they're not a happy bunch after relegation and yesterday - so everyone's getting a bit of abuse! Also they seem to want to use him as right-footed, traditional right winger as opposed to a "playing him on the left and telling him to cut and shoot every time" (which would seem to be more in line with what we'd do with him as an inside-forward type?)
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Post by robstokie on Aug 11, 2014 20:27:54 GMT
I think this could be a masterstroke if we get it done. Redmond didn't really set the world on fire last season but he obviously has the potential to be a fantastic little player. He is obviously a bit rough round the edges, and I think we would be looking to ease him in gradually if the transfer was to happen, but he is quick as fuck, can play off both feet, looks like he can create something out of nothing, can play both out on the flanks or looking to cut inside, whereas with Assaidi you knew he was always going to look to cut inside and have a shot, and would slot into our current system nicely. Go and get him Sparky!!!!!!
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Post by pyrus on Aug 11, 2014 21:17:19 GMT
So there's a rumour doing the rounds that Hughes may actually buy this player. But if you believe the combined wisdom of Oatcake posters, our manager apparently knows fuck all about footballers' potential or talent. This would be the same manager who bought in Arnie, Pieters, Muniesa, Bojan, Ireland, etc.
I heard that either Mark Bowen or Eddie Niedwiskzivisenzkziski reads this board. Lads have a word with Sparky, tell him to stay away, he won't learn jack on here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 21:42:44 GMT
The new Tom Soares?
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Aug 11, 2014 22:13:06 GMT
Very good player.
In Hughes we trust.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 22:20:30 GMT
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Post by 11wilkosinateam on Aug 11, 2014 22:28:17 GMT
why after a poor season and relegation has his value doubled in a year ?
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Post by pedro23 on Aug 11, 2014 22:49:23 GMT
why after a poor season and relegation has his value doubled in a year ? Because Norwich think teams are willing to pay over the odds for their players, partly based on the fact that Hull paid close to £7mill for Snodgrass. Add to that young English internationals with Premiership experience, good, bad or indifferent do not go cheap. If Hughes wants him and is willing to pay, I would go with that, he must think he can bring him on.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 11, 2014 22:52:27 GMT
why after a poor season and relegation has his value doubled in a year ? Prem experience and the over valuation of English players I'm guessing, tbh I'd be quite happy with him, still raw but has plenty of time to develop, when a club like ours buys young they are very rarely going to be the finished article, and would probably be happier to wait his time than Assaidi for e.g.
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Post by foster on Aug 12, 2014 7:14:50 GMT
Redmond has more resale value than Assaidi. Potentially a lot being English.
Also homegrown and with more potential from an ability perspective.
If 6m is the asking price then I would offer it. Even if he bombs you would expect to recoup most of that if sold later.
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Post by foster on Aug 12, 2014 7:16:18 GMT
Also playing with the likes of Arnie, Ireland and Bojan should help his game. He could learn from them.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Aug 12, 2014 7:27:33 GMT
Cannot write Redmond off after a season at Norwich.
Most players would struggle a side stripped of any attacking intent by its previous manager Chris Hughton.
Hughes could nurture the undoubted talent that Redmond has should we sign him.
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Post by jeycov on Aug 12, 2014 7:31:03 GMT
Redmond has more resale value than Assaidi. Potentially a lot being English. Also homegrown and with more potential from an ability perspective. If 6m is the asking price then I would offer it. Even if he bombs you would expect to recoup most of that if sold later. Indeed, potential outgoings from our squad seem to be dominated by home grown players and we don't want to be in a situation where we cannot release one or two of them them come September 1st to maintain our quota. ? Wilkinson, Jerome, Shotton, Walters, Crouch Not sure who else? Whelan, Wilson, someone mentioned Huth? I expect that a few of them will move on
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Post by crouchbot on Aug 12, 2014 7:41:30 GMT
Redmond has more resale value than Assaidi. Potentially a lot being English. Also homegrown and with more potential from an ability perspective. If 6m is the asking price then I would offer it. Even if he bombs you would expect to recoup most of that if sold later. Indeed, potential outgoings from our squad seem to be dominated by home grown players and we don't want to be in a situation where we cannot release one or two of them them come September 1st to maintain our quota. ? Wilkinson, Jerome, Shotton, Walters, Crouch Not sure who else? Whelan, Wilson, someone mentioned Huth? I expect that a few of them will move on Home grown players off the top of my head... Begovic Butland Wilkinson Wilson Shawcross Huth Shotton Whelan Ireland Sidwell Jerome Walters Crouch That should mean we can move a few of them on along with Shea, Palacios and maybe Ness.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 12, 2014 8:44:25 GMT
Sentinel doesn't seem to add much but do chuck in the idea that the public bid could be one last giddy-up to Assaidi. re the home grown quota - suppose it is something you've got to keep a close eye on now to ensure you've got the 8. So the pool of home-grown players is probably something that all clubs have got to keep topping up. But Begovic, Huth, Ireland, Shawcross, Whelan, Wilson, Bardsley and Sidwell are certs to be in (and probably Wilko too as we gave him a new deal?) And then there's also Crouch, Shotton, Jerome, Walters and Butland (who doesn't have to be named due to his age) who may or may not be here.
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Post by wembley4372 on Aug 12, 2014 8:44:59 GMT
Why are we bothering with Redmond, surely our feeder club has a winger we can take.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 9:53:13 GMT
Why are we bothering with Redmond, surely our feeder club has a winger we can take. I trust Hughes judgement , but in all honesty I don't think he's worth £5 million....£3 million. Nowhere near as good as Assaidi in my view.
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Post by robchicken on Aug 12, 2014 9:54:13 GMT
Should we be finding out sometime today? Hasn't Hughes given them a 24 hour deadline?
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Post by burtonstokie on Aug 12, 2014 9:55:51 GMT
A Norwich-supporting friend's view on him, not entirely convincing :
He may have higher aspirations, but i cant see them being satisfied in the short term. If he plays for you as he does for us hes a waste of money. 1 goal last season. If he performs as he does for England U21s you'd have a bargain! Tries to do too much on his own at Norwich so it could work out at your place.
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Post by unknown182 on Aug 12, 2014 9:57:28 GMT
He's not as good as Assaidi. But you have to remember he's THREE years younger than Bojan. He's still a raw talent with bags of pace and great dribbling ability. Surely he can improve other areas of his game working under Mark Hughes.
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Post by crouchbot on Aug 12, 2014 10:01:17 GMT
Should we be finding out sometime today? Hasn't Hughes given them a 24 hour deadline? Hope so, could do without this dragging on.
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Post by a.d.faye.god on Aug 12, 2014 10:08:44 GMT
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