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Post by thestatusquo on Aug 11, 2014 14:08:37 GMT
Wouldn't the same question be asked of Assaidi?
If we sign Yammy, I can't see Bojan and Diouf starting together, it'll be a case of either/or.
It's going to be very tough at Stoke this season and it is why I genuinely believe that at least two maybe three of the big names already here will undoubtedly have to leave.
Agreed - even if just Redmond arrives, surely Walters, as well as Jerome, is off? Hughes is saying he wants to keep Crouch - and to be fair, he is the only big man alternative to Diouf - but Walters is getting 10 minutes at the end of the latest friendlies, and another new face to play out wide will limit further his potential game time. I'd add Adam to the list of departures too (and Palacios, Shea, Shotton and Ness if anyone wants them!). Walters and Adam will have potential buyers, but it depends on fee/wages. When Adam came over to give his shirt to the crowd at the end of the Frieberg game I couldn't help but feel it was a goodbye gesture.
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Post by robboleek on Aug 11, 2014 14:14:06 GMT
Agreed - even if just Redmond arrives, surely Walters, as well as Jerome, is off? Hughes is saying he wants to keep Crouch - and to be fair, he is the only big man alternative to Diouf - but Walters is getting 10 minutes at the end of the latest friendlies, and another new face to play out wide will limit further his potential game time. I'd add Adam to the list of departures too (and Palacios, Shea, Shotton and Ness if anyone wants them!). Walters and Adam will have potential buyers, but it depends on fee/wages. When Adams came over to give his shirt to the crowd at the end of the Frieberg game I couldn't help but feel it was a goodbye gesture. Really don't mean to sound a twat but I wish I had a quid for every time I have heard a Stoke fan call him Adams haha.......
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 11, 2014 14:14:11 GMT
Agreed - even if just Redmond arrives, surely Walters, as well as Jerome, is off? Hughes is saying he wants to keep Crouch - and to be fair, he is the only big man alternative to Diouf - but Walters is getting 10 minutes at the end of the latest friendlies, and another new face to play out wide will limit further his potential game time. I'd add Adam to the list of departures too (and Palacios, Shea, Shotton and Ness if anyone wants them!). Walters and Adam will have potential buyers, but it depends on fee/wages. When Adams came over to give his shirt to the crowd at the end of the Frieberg game I couldn't help but feel it was a goodbye gesture. Who's Adams?
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Post by thestatusquo on Aug 11, 2014 14:15:35 GMT
When Adams came over to give his shirt to the crowd at the end of the Frieberg game I couldn't help but feel it was a goodbye gesture. Who's Adams? Ha ha Typo.
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Post by DodgyDino on Aug 11, 2014 14:17:11 GMT
I think I must be missing something with Redmond because personally I can't see what all the fuss is about. Admittedly I haven't seen a great deal of the lad but each time I have he's looked mediocre at best.....Especially yesterday when I paid him particular attention. :-\
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 14:19:51 GMT
Agreed - even if just Redmond arrives, surely Walters, as well as Jerome, is off? Hughes is saying he wants to keep Crouch - and to be fair, he is the only big man alternative to Diouf - but Walters is getting 10 minutes at the end of the latest friendlies, and another new face to play out wide will limit further his potential game time. I'd add Adam to the list of departures too (and Palacios, Shea, Shotton and Ness if anyone wants them!). Walters and Adam will have potential buyers, but it depends on fee/wages. When Adam came over to give his shirt to the crowd at the end of the Frieberg game I couldn't help but feel it was a goodbye gesture. was this the shirt?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 14:25:35 GMT
I think I must be missing something with Redmond because personally I can't see what all the fuss is about. Admittedly I haven't seen a great deal of the lad but each time I have he's looked mediocre at best.....Especially yesterday when I paid him particular attention. :-\ That pretty much sums up my thoughts on him, I'd put him in the Thomas Ince bracket.
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 11, 2014 14:26:03 GMT
There's a lot of pressure on the lad if he signs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 14:30:31 GMT
There's a lot of pressure on the lad if he signs. why is there any more pressure on him than there would be on Assaidi?
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 11, 2014 14:34:05 GMT
There's a lot of pressure on the lad if he signs. why is there any more pressure on him than there would be on Assaidi? Maybe because he's quite universally wanted on here (rare I know) also the vast majority would prefer Redmond over Assiadi. So that equals pressure.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 14:37:33 GMT
why is there any more pressure on him than there would be on Assaidi? Maybe because he's quite universally wanted on here (rare I know) also the vast majority would prefer Redmond over Assiadi. So that equals pressure. i'd hardly say a 4 page thread equates to "Universally wanted on here" (especially when many people have said they don't see the hype at all). and since when has people on here wanting him equalled "Huge pressure on a player" exactly? i'm pretty sure there's about 20,000 Stoke fans that don't even post on here in the first place. either him or Assaidi will be a squad player anyway, no more pressure on either of them in particular. this board doesn't really decide the kind of pressure players are under in any way, shape of form mate. i think you're aggrandising The Oatcake just a tad to be honest.
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 11, 2014 14:40:04 GMT
Maybe because he's quite universally wanted on here (rare I know) also the vast majority would prefer Redmond over Assiadi. So that equals pressure. i'd hardly say a 4 page thread equates to "Universally wanted on here" (especially when many people have said they don't see the hype at all). Have you read the Assiadi thread?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 14:45:17 GMT
i'd hardly say a 4 page thread equates to "Universally wanted on here" (especially when many people have said they don't see the hype at all). Have you read the Assiadi thread? and are you ignoring the rest of the points re: some people think X doesn't automatically equate to the club's/ fans/ player's feeling and expectations or are we now deciding that the posters on the Oatcake have final say on what Stoke fans all believe? it's a sounding board mate....some prefer Assaidi, some prefer Redmond. both would be no more than squad players anyway, no more pressure on Redmond at all (especially given that he isn't demanding ridiculous wages like Assaidi is...given Assaidi's asking price and wage demands i'd say that puts far more pressure on him to deliver than any kind of pressure Redmond would have)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 14:49:09 GMT
There's a lot of pressure on the lad if he signs. There's a lot of pressure on every signing in fairness. We're not known for our patience.
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 11, 2014 14:53:06 GMT
Have you read the Assiadi thread? and are you ignoring the rest of the points re: some people think X doesn't automatically equate to the club's/ fans/ player's feeling and expectations or are we now deciding that the posters on the Oatcake have final say on what Stoke fans all believe? it's a sounding board mate....some prefer Assaidi, some prefer Redmond. both would be no more than squad players anyway, no more pressure on Redmond at all (especially given that he isn't demanding ridiculous wages like Assaidi is...given Assaidi's asking price and wage demands i'd say that puts far more pressure on him to deliver than any kind of pressure Redmond would have) Well, I can't be bothered to argue with somebody as contrarian as you today so I'll just go with, We'll see.
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 11, 2014 14:53:30 GMT
There's a lot of pressure on the lad if he signs. There's a lot of pressure on every signing in fairness. We're not known for our patience. Exactly.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 11, 2014 14:56:54 GMT
I think I must be missing something with Redmond because personally I can't see what all the fuss is about. Admittedly I haven't seen a great deal of the lad but each time I have he's looked mediocre at best.....Especially yesterday when I paid him particular attention. :-\ He gave Stoke defenders some trouble at the Brit. last season!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 15:11:36 GMT
and are you ignoring the rest of the points re: some people think X doesn't automatically equate to the club's/ fans/ player's feeling and expectations or are we now deciding that the posters on the Oatcake have final say on what Stoke fans all believe? it's a sounding board mate....some prefer Assaidi, some prefer Redmond. both would be no more than squad players anyway, no more pressure on Redmond at all (especially given that he isn't demanding ridiculous wages like Assaidi is...given Assaidi's asking price and wage demands i'd say that puts far more pressure on him to deliver than any kind of pressure Redmond would have) Well, I can't be bothered to argue with somebody as contrarian as you today so I'll just go with, We'll see. ??? so you don't want to argue with someone so contrarian but then say "Exactly" to the post below which says what i originally did i.e. no more pressure on Redmond than there would be on Assaiidi??? "either him or Assaidi will be a squad player anyway, no more pressure on either of them in particular" Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/232877/nathan-redmond?page=4&scrollTo=4395575#ixzz3A63hNjN7maybe you should try reading what people have said before getting all defensive like a sulky teenager then bizarre to say the least mate
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 11, 2014 15:19:38 GMT
Well, I can't be bothered to argue with somebody as contrarian as you today so I'll just go with, We'll see. ??? so you don't want to argue with someone so contrarian but then say "Exactly" to the post below which says what i originally did i.e. no more pressure on Redmond than there would be on Assaiidi??? "either him or Assaidi will be a squad player anyway, no more pressure on either of them in particular" Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/232877/nathan-redmond?page=4&scrollTo=4395575#ixzz3A63hNjN7maybe you should try reading what people have said before getting all defensive like a sulky teenager then bizarre to say the least mate A lot of pressure, will he be able to cope?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 15:23:27 GMT
I saw him on a few games and headless chicken springs to mind. Can run with a ball but has no end product, his 1 goal and only a couple of assists shows he's bang average. Constantly makes the wrong decisions.
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Aug 11, 2014 15:25:10 GMT
I think I must be missing something with Redmond because personally I can't see what all the fuss is about. Admittedly I haven't seen a great deal of the lad but each time I have he's looked mediocre at best.....Especially yesterday when I paid him particular attention. :-\ He gave Stoke defenders some trouble at the Brit. last season! Which is pretty brilliant of him then, as he was out injured at the time................. and anyway no-one in yellow gave us any trouble, we created our own for the entire 90 minutes
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 11, 2014 15:26:48 GMT
He gave Stoke defenders some trouble at the Brit. last season! Which is pretty brilliant of him then, as he was out injured at the time................. and anyway no-one in yellow gave us any trouble, we created our own for the entire 90 minutes Was gonna say he didn't play did he? remember that because I put him in my dream team for the week
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 15:30:04 GMT
??? so you don't want to argue with someone so contrarian but then say "Exactly" to the post below which says what i originally did i.e. no more pressure on Redmond than there would be on Assaiidi??? "either him or Assaidi will be a squad player anyway, no more pressure on either of them in particular" Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/232877/nathan-redmond?page=4&scrollTo=4395575#ixzz3A63hNjN7maybe you should try reading what people have said before getting all defensive like a sulky teenager then bizarre to say the least mate A lot of pressure, will he be able to cope? as you said mate "We will see". i don't see why not though...at a better club with better players around him, better coaching and management staff and better training facilities. same could have been said about Assaidi when he came here, he'd been a t avery big club who clearly had no intention of actually playing him (which wouldn't do a lot for his confidence) but the old arm around the shoulder thing seemed to let him settle in very well. i think the setup we have lends to anyone being able to accomplish more than they may have shown in the past at lesser clubs
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 15:35:12 GMT
I saw him on a few games and headless chicken springs to mind. Can run with a ball but has no end product, his 1 goal and only a couple of assists shows he's bang average. Constantly makes the wrong decisions. i thought this thread was about Redmond rather than Jerome
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Post by stokemark on Aug 11, 2014 15:38:54 GMT
I think I must be missing something with Redmond because personally I can't see what all the fuss is about. Admittedly I haven't seen a great deal of the lad but each time I have he's looked mediocre at best.....Especially yesterday when I paid him particular attention. :-\ He gave Stoke defenders some trouble at the Brit. last season! Err - He didnt play Naarwich fans dont rate him either !
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Post by lordb on Aug 11, 2014 15:44:48 GMT
He needs coaching,he will get that here.
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Post by thebet365 on Aug 11, 2014 15:49:23 GMT
He gave Stoke defenders some trouble at the Brit. last season! Err - He didnt play Naarwich fans dont rate him either !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 15:55:52 GMT
I saw him on a few games and headless chicken springs to mind. Can run with a ball but has no end product, his 1 goal and only a couple of assists shows he's bang average. Constantly makes the wrong decisions. i thought this thread was about Redmond rather than Jerome Much the bloody same in all honesty. He's a young lad and with better players around him then maybe he could do us a decent job, that said neither Assaidi or Redmond really do much for me.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 11, 2014 16:03:40 GMT
He gave Stoke defenders some trouble at the Brit. last season! Err - He didnt play Naarwich fans dont rate him either ! You are right, he played at Norwich against us:- Norwich City 01 Ruddy 02 Martin 23 Olsson 27 Tettey (Hooper - 81' ) 26 Yobo 05 Bassong 07 Snodgrass 04 Johnson 09 van Wolfswinkel (Elmander - 80' ) 14 Hoolahan (Howson - 67' ) 22 Redmond Substitutes 03 Whittaker 08 Howson 11 Hooper 12 Pilkington 13 Bunn 16 Elmander 19 Becchio Stoke City 01 Begovic 20 Cameron Booked 03 Pieters 06 Whelan 17 Shawcross 12 Wilson Booked 09 Odemwingie (Guidetti - 63' ) 15 N'Zonzi 25 Crouch 19 Walters Dismissed 10 Arnautovic (Etherington - 74' ) Substitutes 05 Muniesa 08 Palacios 23 Guidetti (Ireland - 80' ) 26 Etherington 28 Wilkinson 29 Sørensen 32 Ireland
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Post by arnieforpresident on Aug 11, 2014 17:15:50 GMT
Not really excited by this signing at all tbh, no doubt we will get him, this could go on and at the very death stoke will offer £6m or they have an unhappy player when they could of had £6m to pay for a replacement
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