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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 17, 2014 8:50:06 GMT
Who reported that? The Onion? Not saying he played poor or anything but Brooks gets it hands down you consider all the circumstances. You are obviously of the Garth Crooks kind of thinking? just because a defender scores he's MOM? if anything Geoff was baby sitting Brooks from the moment he came on.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 17, 2014 8:56:35 GMT
Stayed up to watch it and he played excellently, especially up against Gyan who can be a handful for anyone.
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Post by metalhead on Jun 17, 2014 8:56:43 GMT
the way I see it, if that had been Shawcross in an England shirt, we would all calling it a defensive masterclass. Starting to think there's an anti USA undertone on the oatcake It's just a case of that people have made up their minds after a few dodgy performances last season and have to stick to their guns. Embarrassing. All Stoke players have given the odd dodgy performance including Asmir, Ryan, Huth. Cameron had a tough season. He started off galloping like a horse trying to win the Grand National and perhaps just struggled to handle the demands. The year before, he wasn't as regular and perhaps had a break a little more often. Cameron played every game but one last season, and was only taken off once. That's a hard season, for anyone. I really do feel like there's some pathetic anti-USA undertone on this board. The pride when Asmir stepped out to represent Bosnia, yet only a few of us were that bothered when Geoff stepped out for USA. I was just as proud for Geoff as I was for Asmir. Then, seeing what was a truly world class performance by a Stoke player, in the world cup, on the biggest stage, made me even prouder. Hearing this morning that the general consensus is among the media that he is Man of the Match, makes me even prouder still. Geoff Cameron represented all thatwe Stokie's are supposed to love. It was a truly passionate, patriotic performance, filled with pride for the fact he was playing for his country on the biggest stage. He threw everything into that game, to the point that I thought he was going to breakdown at the end due to tiredness. He won all but one header (the Gyan one saved by Howard), blocked numerous shots, was NOT at fault for the goal and was up trying to score the winner. He encapsulated everything that those overpaid mercenaries in white failed to do against Italy. Geoff Cameron, (most of) the Oatcake salutes you! Make us proud against Portugal.
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Post by mrpickles on Jun 17, 2014 9:12:19 GMT
Well done Geoffrey.
Didn't see the game, but sounds like he had a cracker.
Who knows, maybe he could force himself into the reckoning for a place alongside Ryan afterall?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2014 9:14:57 GMT
Good to see Geoff playing well, i hope he has a good tournament. However Bardlsey will be first choice right back and Cameron will not start at centre half ahead of Shawcross, Huth, Wilson or Muniesa. Maybe he will play in midfield if N'Zonzi goes but now we have signed Sidwell i can't see that happening either.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 17, 2014 9:17:10 GMT
Cameron is a better full back than Bardsley.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2014 9:18:21 GMT
Cameron is a better full back than Bardsley. Hughes doesnt agree with you
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Post by kevkj on Jun 17, 2014 9:19:51 GMT
Cameron is a better full back than Bardsley. Thats the funniest thing ive read in a while,give your head a wobble.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Jun 17, 2014 9:20:28 GMT
Who reported that? The Onion? Not saying he played poor or anything but Brooks gets it hands down you consider all the circumstances. You are obviously of the Garth Crooks kind of thinking? just because a defender scores he's MOM? if anything Geoff was baby sitting Brooks from the moment he came on. Spot on. Brooks is a "kiddie " and has yet to sort out his positioning..its his achilles heel. Cameron was excellent as was Besler who Brooks replaced and the USA looked solid despite a load of pressure. Ghana looked dangerous up to the edge of the box but GCam and Besler never looked in trouble and then Brooks came on.... The lad has a future but still very green.
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Post by metalhead on Jun 17, 2014 9:20:42 GMT
Well done Geoffrey. Didn't see the game, but sounds like he had a cracker. Who knows, maybe he could force himself into the reckoning for a place alongside Ryan afterall? If I was Robert Huth, I'd be very nervous. Cameron certainly deserves a chance after last night.
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Post by metalhead on Jun 17, 2014 9:22:48 GMT
Cameron is a better full back than Bardsley. Thats the funniest thing ive read in a while,give your head a wobble. To be honest, I think Cameron is a far better full back than Bardsley, but it gives us an option and we'll see who Sparky prefers.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2014 9:27:36 GMT
Well done Geoffrey. Didn't see the game, but sounds like he had a cracker. Who knows, maybe he could force himself into the reckoning for a place alongside Ryan afterall? If I was Robert Huth, I'd be very nervous. Cameron certainly deserves a chance after last night. on the basis of one game against an average Ghana side? don't get me wrong i love Geoff but hes had several games at centre half in the prem and hasn't been good enough. For me Geoff is a slightly better Mark Wilson, good cover for a number of positions but not really good enough to be starting.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 17, 2014 9:28:01 GMT
Cameron is a better full back than Bardsley. Thats the funniest thing ive read in a while,give your head a wobble. CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 17, 2014 9:29:03 GMT
He is though, in my opinion. Bardsley is decent enough as back up but I'd be a bit alarmed if he was starting as our first choice RB next season if we want to push on.
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Post by riproaring on Jun 17, 2014 9:31:07 GMT
Cameron looked good last night, comfortable on the ball passed well few good tackles proud of the lad
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Post by metalhead on Jun 17, 2014 9:32:41 GMT
If I was Robert Huth, I'd be very nervous. Cameron certainly deserves a chance after last night. on the basis of one game against an average Ghana side? don't get me wrong i love Geoff but hes had several games at centre half in the prem and hasn't been good enough. For me Geoff is a slightly better Mark Wilson, good cover for a number of positions but not really good enough to be starting. An average Ghana side with Atsu, Ayew brothers, and Gyan all up front. Yep.
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Jun 17, 2014 9:34:55 GMT
Like many have pointed out , he played a solid performance but nothing that warrants a MOM award. Disagree. I watched the whole match and he was solid as a rock in the heart of the USA defence and was constantly being lauded up by the commentary team. Very proud of his contribution to a good win and as for Nigeria, Odemwingie only came on for the last 20 and he showed the rest of the useless bunch how to attack a team with pace and purpose. Top notch stuff from our two boys.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2014 9:37:27 GMT
on the basis of one game against an average Ghana side? don't get me wrong i love Geoff but hes had several games at centre half in the prem and hasn't been good enough. For me Geoff is a slightly better Mark Wilson, good cover for a number of positions but not really good enough to be starting. An average Ghana side with Atsu, Ayew brothers, and Gyan all up front. Yep. and lost to the USA and probably won't qualify for the 2nd round. Compared to the majority of premier league teams they are average. You really think that one game is enough to break up the Huth - Shawcross partnership that worked so well for years?
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Post by unknown182 on Jun 17, 2014 9:39:23 GMT
Beckerman or Jones were MOTM for me. But Cameron played well
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Post by skip on Jun 17, 2014 9:39:35 GMT
Cameron was great last night and put in two slide rule passes under pressure that instantly quelled the oppositions moves.
Bego was equally as cool and measured against Argentina and there was nothing he could do for either goal, wrong footed by a flukey own goal and a laser guided second that bent inside the post.
I was well proud of them both.
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Post by atbreakofday on Jun 17, 2014 9:40:17 GMT
Geoff played 41 times for us laat season. Second only to Ryan. I dont know how many internationals he played during that time as well and he is still putting in solid performances at WC. Great athlete and asset to our club.
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Jun 17, 2014 9:40:20 GMT
It's just a case of that people have made up their minds after a few dodgy performances last season and have to stick to their guns. Embarrassing. All Stoke players have given the odd dodgy performance including Asmir, Ryan, Huth. Cameron had a tough season. He started off galloping like a horse trying to win the Grand National and perhaps just struggled to handle the demands. The year before, he wasn't as regular and perhaps had a break a little more often. Cameron played every game but one last season, and was only taken off once. That's a hard season, for anyone. I really do feel like there's some pathetic anti-USA undertone on this board. The pride when Asmir stepped out to represent Bosnia, yet only a few of us were that bothered when Geoff stepped out for USA. I was just as proud for Geoff as I was for Asmir. Then, seeing what was a truly world class performance by a Stoke player, in the world cup, on the biggest stage, made me even prouder. Hearing this morning that the general consensus is among the media that he is Man of the Match, makes me even prouder still. Geoff Cameron represented all thatwe Stokie's are supposed to love. It was a truly passionate, patriotic performance, filled with pride for the fact he was playing for his country on the biggest stage. He threw everything into that game, to the point that I thought he was going to breakdown at the end due to tiredness. He won all but one header (the Gyan one saved by Howard), blocked numerous shots, was NOT at fault for the goal and was up trying to score the winner. He encapsulated everything that those overpaid mercenaries in white failed to do against Italy. Geoff Cameron, (most of) the Oatcake salutes you! Make us proud against Portugal. This +1000! He was at the heart of a USA team that fought like bloody tigers to get the result. Anyone see Dempsey get his nose busted which made him even angrier? Bit like the Hulk without the bulgy bits
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Post by Paddypotter on Jun 17, 2014 9:41:26 GMT
I think it very much depends on whether or not Huth returns the same player he was.
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 17, 2014 9:52:38 GMT
He is though, in my opinion. Bardsley is decent enough as back up but I'd be a bit alarmed if he was starting as our first choice RB next season if we want to push on. Don't be alarmed. MH will give both players a fair chance to prove themselves during pre-season and make a wise choice. I'm sure MH will have watched him closely last night. Personally I think Geoff is a great professional and a good man to have in the team, but he is vulnerable against a tricky left winger and can get caught out. Nevertheless he works well with the others in the team and makes himself available down the right wing to help out in attacks. Unfortunately his centring isn't great and he tends to hoof it in at the first opportunity. I'm no expert on Bardsley and would therefore naturally favour Geoff, but if Bardsley is a sounder defender I'd pick him when up against a strong left wing threat. One option in MH's locker is to pick Geoff as a starter and bring on Bardsley and move Geoff to the centre if needed.
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Post by Gods on Jun 17, 2014 10:00:35 GMT
I'm not sure the center half debate will come in to play. Fact is Cameron looks far more like the modern full back than Bardsley, he is just a fantastic athlete who can get up and down the pitch all day. I can see Bardlsey providing old-skool, pugnacious, stocky if rather limited cover when needed, but in the modern game where your full backs need to push on more than your holding midfield players then Cameron is the man. Just needs some work with the coaching team on some aspects of his positioning and crossing but that is what they are paid to do. The only remaining question is does Hughes realises this already or will come to this realisation at some point after the start of the season
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Post by wembley4372 on Jun 17, 2014 10:01:59 GMT
If Cameron wants to play regular football he will need to leave.
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Post by Gods on Jun 17, 2014 10:04:51 GMT
If Cameron wants to play regular football he will need to leave. If you say that because you think Bardsley has Cameron's place in the bag then you are either over rating Bardsley or under rating Cameron or both or you just think that having persuaded Coates to part with the Bardsley money then Hughes will feel he has to play him.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 17, 2014 10:05:11 GMT
He's not needed to leave the last two seasons, has he?
Gary 1 - 0 Wembley
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 17, 2014 10:14:30 GMT
Virtual ever present next season.
Versatile, hard working, getting better all the time.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 17, 2014 10:15:24 GMT
Correct! Just hitting his peak too.
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