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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 26, 2014 20:19:52 GMT
That was bad, even for Jon. He looked like a bloke who had won a raffle and got to play with his heroes. It was pretty embarrassing really. On Twitter, Angela Smith was (commendably) trying to stick up for him and said you'd want him stood next to you in a battle. I pointed out that we aren't at war, we are playing professional football at the highest level and the time for limited grafters in attacking positions should have left us a few years ago.And if we continue with this policy, it will come of absolutely no surprise to anybody (and we certainly can't have any complaints) if SCFC quickly returns to an appropriate level for such quality.
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Post by pottersrule on Jan 26, 2014 20:24:19 GMT
Correct,it's shocking to watch and it has to stop. We play with ten men Every week. Walters was rubbish today but then again he is rubbish most weeks but still keeps getting PICKED by the MANAGER every week !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think he's picked for his consistent performances.
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Post by skip on Jan 26, 2014 20:35:41 GMT
Dear Mark Hughes.
The eyes don't lie and big beardy John Walters and done gone and got rid of what he ever it was he once had.
regards,
a fan.
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Post by foster on Jan 26, 2014 20:42:45 GMT
Are there any posters left on here that rate Walters?
I think Walters shitness could be the one unifying factor on this board.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 26, 2014 20:42:57 GMT
He's been shit for a while, why else do you think gcam is asked to attack. SJW isnt super anymore. He's a liability and a wasted start on the sheet every friggen week. Been chiming this for months now. Funny how some who praise him usually are now chiming in that hes shit.. ohh the oatcake.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 26, 2014 20:46:03 GMT
Are there any posters left on here that rate Walters? I think Walters shitness could be the one unifying factor on this board. Well the usual fans are now against him... just go back a few weeks the tide is changing they're coming to the light...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2014 21:02:55 GMT
That was bad, even for Jon. He looked like a bloke who had won a raffle and got to play with his heroes. It was pretty embarrassing really. On Twitter, Angela Smith was (commendably) trying to stick up for him and said you'd want him stood next to you in a battle. I pointed out that we aren't at war, we are playing professional football at the highest level and the time for limited grafters in attacking positions should have left us a few years ago. Why he couldn't hit an elephants arse with a sniper rifle, At least he wouldn't run off though as he CAN'T RUN, would you like him to pass you a grenade, he is PCs love child I'll bet ya.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Jan 26, 2014 21:06:19 GMT
hate having a go at players but what he supposedly brings to the team ie. workrate, is often done too late. ie. he rarely is there when Cameron actually needs him. he never stops running, but it's one-paced, reactive stuff. More and more he's not where he should be imho.
He works hard, but at the right times?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2014 21:10:22 GMT
hate having a go at players but what he supposedly brings to the team ie. workrate, is often done too late. ie. he rarely is there when Cameron actually needs him. he never stops running, but it's one-paced, reactive stuff. More and more he's not where he should be imho. He works hard, but at the right times? Spot on, headless chicken, dog chasing a squirrel, he has little intelligence as a footballer, as you say it's all reactive. Contrast with Delap who was a great defensive player he just seemed to know where the danger was and he'd snuff it out. This Walters thing is beyond a joke.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2014 21:10:40 GMT
hate having a go at players but what he supposedly brings to the team ie. workrate, is often done too late. ie. he rarely is there when Cameron actually needs him. he never stops running, but it's one-paced, reactive stuff. More and more he's not where he should be imho. He works hard, but at the right times? Bunny, he's the master of the lost cause. Plenty of miles, but arrives just that little too late to have any impact whatsoever, in a defensive or attacking sense. Give him the ball, and my Labrador shows him up when chasing a power-ball.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 26, 2014 21:15:23 GMT
We might as well go 10 vs 11 because walters just invites them to counter attack after his touch lets him down. Im getting tired of a winger not being able to cross or even offer a sense of a threat on goal... is shawcross going to have to get down the wing to try next?
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Post by Northy on Jan 26, 2014 21:21:37 GMT
Today Walters made 20 passes and 10 of them went to their target. To put things in perspective, N'zonzi had 99% pass accuracy, Wilson had 88%, Arnie 85%, Pieters 83%. Assaidi came on for 20 minutes and completed all 10 of his passes. Walters played 90 minutes and had the lowest accuracy of anyone on the team and added absolutely nothing to the attack or defence. He is the worst starting player in the league. I'm actually starting to think that there's something in his contract because it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to play him, especially every single fucking game. And most of the 10 passes he made were 5 yarders straight back to nzonzi whod just passed to him, not under pressure at all Sent from my LT30p using proboards
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 26, 2014 21:26:50 GMT
We might as well go 10 vs 11 because walters just invites them to counter attack after his touch lets him down. Im getting tired of a winger not being able to cross or even offer a sense of a threat on goal... is shawcross going to have to get down the wing to try next? Ordinarily it could be suggested that you're being melodramatic but this is actually now becoming a seriously worrying problem - 50% of his 'passes' today went to Chelsea players ... never mind it being like playing with 10 men, it's becoming close to playing with 10 men versus 12 as he becomes a help to the opposition and in the meantime offers us absolutely nothing whatsoever.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 26, 2014 21:33:38 GMT
We might as well go 10 vs 11 because walters just invites them to counter attack after his touch lets him down. Im getting tired of a winger not being able to cross or even offer a sense of a threat on goal... is shawcross going to have to get down the wing to try next? Ordinarily it could be suggested that you're being melodramatic but this is actually now becoming a seriously worrying problem - 50% of his 'passes' today went to Chelsea players ... never mind it being like playing with 10 men, it's becoming close to playing with 10 men versus 12 as he becomes a help to the opposition and in the meantime offers us absolutely nothing whatsoever. Exactly, how that excuse for a player is still in the starting eleven is worrying. Yet people blame our defence yet again.. sorry but when walters destroys our chances at midfield with terrible touches even worse passing and no ability to beat anyone it falls on the back four who are asked to contribute to the attack even more especially vs a great Chelsea side, I pity Gcam and Erik going forward it's to the point now where desperate to get our midfield woes Sorted our fullbacks have more skill with the ball than Walters. If we dont sort out the right wing. Were done.
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Post by OoohStevenNzonzi on Jan 26, 2014 21:34:05 GMT
can someone explain to me why Hughes can't play Arnie on the right, instead of Walters who has only ever been half-decent up front, and Assaidi on the left
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 26, 2014 21:40:21 GMT
can someone explain to me why Hughes can't play Arnie on the right, instead of Walters who has only ever been half-decent up front, and Assaidi on the left Right? Im sorry but a half arsed Arnie offers more potentially dangerous opportunities in 90 mins than Walters could conjure up in 14 games... I'd have Arnie start until the end of the season. This back and forth bs is not allowing him to get into form but letting the shitshow that is Jonathan Walters digress.
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Post by keasie1863 on Jan 26, 2014 21:40:39 GMT
90 frigging minutes of utter crap from him today, why hughes has kept him on today is beyond belief Sent from my LT30p using proboards Probably the same reason thst pulis kept him on all the time.why that is I haven't got a fecking clue.
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Post by BuzzB on Jan 26, 2014 21:40:50 GMT
can someone explain to me why Hughes can't play Arnie on the right, instead of Walters who has only ever been half-decent up front, and Assaidi on the left Thats how they lined up at kick off, Walters on the left and Arnie on the right. Walters was to stop Ivanovich presumably. Shocking all round today, no pace, no idea, no tempo or urgency. I seriously hope Hughes is planning on playing Guidetti and Odemwinghie along with Adam on Wednesday. Lose and we are well in it (not that we aren't now!)
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Post by wembley1972 on Jan 26, 2014 21:56:02 GMT
As bad as Walters, Arnie, Wilson and the rest are the stand out utterly wank player today and of late is Geoffrey Cameron. He is completely dogshit. Totally agree, the problem we have is the manager doesn't seem to have the ability to get any more out of the poor players he has inherited and the players he has brought in aren't looking like improving us yet! Walters for all his effort is simply not good enough, misses chances and gives the ball away constantly. Arnie has failed to show any consistency, although he is undoubtedly talented. Wilson apart from one or two games is not good enough in any position and keeps getting caught in possession. Cameron hasn't a clue when to go forward and when to sit back, he improved and showed promise then started to get a bit carried away with his little flicks and crossing with the outside of the boot. Nzonzi thinks he's better than he is and shows little in the way of team spirit. I could run through the majority of our team and pick out weaknesses, I just have to believe that there are three teams in this league with weaker squads and hope that Hughes and the chairman know what they are doing.
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Post by niel on Jan 26, 2014 22:00:08 GMT
I find this a bizarre thread.......why pick out just Walters......poor today along with most of the team but certainly not worth singling out any more than the rest.
Week after week we are shown clear incontrovertible evidence that the current style and formation just don't work but for some reason it's Walters fault alone.......some people seem to see what they want to....as usual.
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Post by mccfred on Jan 26, 2014 22:01:22 GMT
I'd rather Arnie start more than Walters
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Post by bassmaster on Jan 26, 2014 22:02:41 GMT
He tries, he's not that good but everyone loves a trier right...........
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Post by owdestokie on Jan 26, 2014 22:09:42 GMT
I find this a bizarre thread.......why pick out just Walters......poor today along with most of the team but certainly not worth singling out any more than the rest. Week after week we are shown clear incontrovertible evidence that the current style and formation just don't work but for some reason it's Walters fault alone.......some people seem to see what they want to....as usual. Bang on post. Without doubt Walters was poor today which gives the agenda driven posters the ideal opportunity to carry on the crucifixion.
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Post by ma on Jan 26, 2014 22:09:55 GMT
passed his use by date now, definitely not good enough to compete at the top level
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 26, 2014 22:12:06 GMT
I find this a bizarre thread.......why pick out just Walters......poor today along with most of the team but certainly not worth singling out any more than the rest. Week after week we are shown clear incontrovertible evidence that the current style and formation just don't work but for some reason it's Walters fault alone....... some people seem to see what they want to....as usual. Lord I wish we were seeing what we want to see ... (even if it was just occasionally)
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Post by sportsman on Jan 26, 2014 22:17:46 GMT
If he starts against Sunderland then there is something in his contract when fit he plays.
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Post by redwhite on Jan 26, 2014 22:18:50 GMT
I find this a bizarre thread.......why pick out just Walters......poor today along with most of the team but certainly not worth singling out any more than the rest. Week after week we are shown clear incontrovertible evidence that the current style and formation just don't work but for some reason it's Walters fault alone.......some people seem to see what they want to....as usual. Firstly Walters was by far the worst player on the pitch today. He was noticeably terrible even by his low standards. Secondly he gets "singled out" because he is our most consistent shocking performer and we cannot progress with him in our side. If he had a decent spell up to now there'd be no need to complain, but his limited abilities are so clear to see that he is quite rightly singled out as a useless player who is destined to carry on producing terrible performances.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 26, 2014 22:20:03 GMT
I find this a bizarre thread.......why pick out just Walters......poor today along with most of the team but certainly not worth singling out any more than the rest. Week after week we are shown clear incontrovertible evidence that the current style and formation just don't work but for some reason it's Walters fault alone.......some people seem to see what they want to....as usual. Hes hasn't been just poor today lets not kid ourselves. Others had a bad game as well but where others have had great runs or good games Walters hasn't had one standout performance all season. Hes been easily one of the most underperforming players in our squad this season. Yet he's always continually picked. If Wilson had a terrible game he's instantly benched. Explain to us why the formation will change said players lack of ability to do basic passes or even get a single cross in? Because he's worse than average.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 26, 2014 22:21:35 GMT
About the worst I have watched him play, couldn't. believe how often he gave the ball away. We cannot afford to keep picking him.
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 26, 2014 22:32:39 GMT
There is a reason why Walters spent the first 10 years of his career in the lower leagues.
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