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Post by kitkatkev on Jan 15, 2014 20:43:09 GMT
Gave Agudelo a pre contract failed to get him a work permit then discovered FIFA will make sure we Honour the 4 and a half year Contract.Don't belive this rubbish we will loan him out and get round the work permit its a case of having to its a right Royal fuk up
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 15, 2014 20:45:59 GMT
I'm not sure that's Cartwright's domain?
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Post by aixpotter on Jan 15, 2014 20:48:30 GMT
I'm not sure that's Cartwright's domain?
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Post by Vestan Pance on Jan 15, 2014 20:48:58 GMT
And he was basically free. And he seems to be being courted by a number of very decent European clubs. Who we could sell him to. For a profit.
Not going to lie. I've seen money spent worse. A lot worse.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Jan 15, 2014 20:49:00 GMT
they didn't fail to get him a WP though did they. Im not entirely what else they could have done. It seems to me the FA wanted to fuck us over off the back of that speech by whoever that clown was that was banging on about homegrown talent.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 15, 2014 20:51:14 GMT
I'm happy to believe a lot of things Kevin. I'm happy to believe that we didn't really go for a player we clearly want (quite a fucking bit) earlier, for the sake of a relative small fee, when the work permit probably would have got through. I'm prepared to believe we waltzed into the hearing half arsed, thinking it was a formality when more work could have been done. I fully believe that Cartwright and Scholes are wank........ but committing to buy someone irrespective of the outcome of a work permit application just doesn't happen, however half arsed your back office is. It just doesn't.
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Post by aixpotter on Jan 15, 2014 20:51:16 GMT
Gave Agudelo a pre contract failed to get him a work permit then discovered FIFA will make sure we Honour the 4 and a half year Contract.Don't belive this rubbish we will loan him out and get round the work permit its a case of having to its a right Royal fuk up
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Post by stoke7leeds2 on Jan 15, 2014 20:58:03 GMT
Another I know fuck all(kitkatkev).....see hackett see Chris kamarasperm...see daveviews...just stop now
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Post by adi on Jan 15, 2014 20:58:53 GMT
Scholes did mention that his crystal ball was out of batteries...
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Post by Hugh Jorgan on Jan 15, 2014 21:00:46 GMT
Is kitkat trying to play twix on us?
Fucking dime bar
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 21:02:31 GMT
Is kitkat trying to play twix on us? Fucking dime bar |
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 15, 2014 21:07:11 GMT
I'll bet you my absolute last penny that any pre contract will have contained a clause stating 'subject to work permit'. There is no way on Gods green earth we would have entered into it so blindly, regardless of how wank you might think those involved are.
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Post by stoke7leeds2 on Jan 15, 2014 21:09:13 GMT
Kitkatkev knows fuck all mate..he even got the whole kit thing completely wrong...zero zilch nowt..his contacts are lenses and foggy ones at that
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Post by kitkatkev on Jan 15, 2014 21:09:15 GMT
I'm happy to believe a lot of things Kevin. I'm happy to believe that we didn't really go for a player we clearly want (quite a fucking bit) earlier, for the sake of a relative small fee, when the work permit probably would have got through. I'm prepared to believe we waltzed into the hearing half arsed, thinking it was a formality when more work could have been done. I fully believe that Cartwright and Scholes are wank........ but committing to buy someone irrespective of the outcome of a work permit application just doesn't happen, however half arsed your back office is. It just doesn't. However, a FIFA statute dictates that pre-contracts cannot be voided later by a failure to win a work permit. Though Agudelo included a hash tag reading "#SignedToday" in Tuesday’s revelatory tweet, sources on both sides of the Atlantic have confirmed that his original contract has tied him to Stoke since August and no second attempt at a deal was ever necessary www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2014/01/15/american-exports-juan-agudelo-set-move-stoke-will-go-loan-elsewhere-first |
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Post by kitkatkev on Jan 15, 2014 21:11:58 GMT
I'll bet you my absolute last penny that any pre contract will have contained a clause stating 'subject to work permit'. There is no way on Gods green earth we would have entered into it so blindly, regardless of how wank you might think those involved are. , a FIFA statute dictates that pre-contracts cannot be voided later by a failure to win a work permit. Though Agudelo included a hash tag reading "#SignedToday" in Tuesday’s revelatory tweet, sources on both sides of the Atlantic have confirmed that his original contract has tied him to Stoke since August and no second attempt at a deal was ever necessary |
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 15, 2014 21:13:03 GMT
So there's a FIFA 'law' that says a contract of EMPLOYMENT is enforceable even if that person has no legal right to WORK in the country where the contract exists? Really?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 15, 2014 21:15:26 GMT
I'm happy to believe a lot of things Kevin. I'm happy to believe that we didn't really go for a player we clearly want (quite a fucking bit) earlier, for the sake of a relative small fee, when the work permit probably would have got through. I'm prepared to believe we waltzed into the hearing half arsed, thinking it was a formality when more work could have been done. I fully believe that Cartwright and Scholes are wank........ but committing to buy someone irrespective of the outcome of a work permit application just doesn't happen, however half arsed your back office is. It just doesn't. However, a FIFA statute dictates that pre-contracts cannot be voided later by a failure to win a work permit. Though Agudelo included a hash tag reading "#SignedToday" in Tuesday’s revelatory tweet, sources on both sides of the Atlantic have confirmed that his original contract has tied him to Stoke since August and no second attempt at a deal was ever necessary www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2014/01/15/american-exports-juan-agudelo-set-move-stoke-will-go-loan-elsewhere-first Fair enough. Sack the pair of feckless cunts. www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2014/01/15/american-exports-juan-agudelo-set-move-stoke-will-go-loan-elsewhere-first |
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Post by miltonstokie on Jan 15, 2014 21:21:47 GMT
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Post by Vestan Pance on Jan 15, 2014 21:24:19 GMT
If the daily star is questioning the validity of the deal, I fear the worst.
It is universally understood that they are the Davesviews of the tabloid press
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 15, 2014 21:28:04 GMT
I don't understand at times how Scholes remains in his job role it seems one thing after another
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Post by MadMarko10 on Jan 15, 2014 21:28:38 GMT
If the daily star is questioning the validity of the deal, I fear the worst. It is universally understood that they are the Davesviews of the tabloid press Excellent |
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Post by kitkatkev on Jan 15, 2014 21:29:34 GMT
I bet Agudelo's agent will want the contract to be Honoured after all it was on SCFC web site the a pre contract had been agreed I can see us having to pay him off
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Post by Vestan Pance on Jan 15, 2014 21:31:24 GMT
I bet Agudelo's agent will want the contract to be Honoured after all it was on SCFC web site the a pre contract had been agreed I can see us having to pay him off Or we could sell him? For a profit given the extremely modest outlay for his services. Chin up, buttercup |
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Post by kitkatkev on Jan 15, 2014 21:32:26 GMT
Gave Agudelo a pre contract failed to get him a work permit then discovered FIFA will make sure we Honour the 4 and a half year Contract.Don't belive this rubbish we will loan him out and get round the work permit its a case of having to its a right Royal fuk up
Grammar police about again |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 21:33:48 GMT
Our recent loan signing is covering this cock up
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Post by hammered on Jan 15, 2014 21:36:06 GMT
Someone needs to have a word with Sir Trev...
Seriously though, it seems someone took a punt and in the short-term (at least) hasn't worked out.
I'd guess once he's playing in Europe and delivers you'll walk it through the next application.
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 15, 2014 21:37:37 GMT
A contract has to be agreed by both parties and signed,so surly if it stated that it was subject to a work permit then this must be enforceable?
So if FIFA can over rule the immigration and right to work rules of the United Kingdom why don't we apply to them for the work permits?
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Post by MuddyWoody on Jan 15, 2014 21:37:58 GMT
This is turning into a comedy of errors.
Would somone at the club like to stand up and tell us all what the fuck is going on?!?
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Post by switch on Jan 15, 2014 21:39:39 GMT
I don't fully understand this can someone explain simply? Is it that because we offered him a contract we have to pay his wages despite him not gaining a work permit
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 21:42:58 GMT
Shit and incompetence once again.
We'd be better off with a pregnant Chimp in charge.
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