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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 20:03:01 GMT
The pray tell us, why is there a law against inciting racial hatred, if indeed racial hatred is not illegal? I don't make the law, i was just stating the facts. If you incite racial hatred you're not keeping your opinions to yourself. There is no law against being a racist if you quietly get on with it. Start discriminating or trying to incite others to share your opinions then you would be breaking the law. hope that helps. Is this not what goes on all over this country in Mosques etc., surely the people inciting racial hatred would be arrested and dealt with using the law you mentioned.
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Post by trebor63 on Jan 4, 2014 20:05:02 GMT
Well I sit in block 21 (middle of the boothen) and didn't hear any racist chanting or any other chanting today. Apart from the one person who started this thread did anyone else hear anything? Whats "real racism"? Racism is racism is it not? “It’s not about intent. It’s about impact.” Racism hurts, whether someone means it or not. I think somebody's had a drink or is reading things that aren't there!
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Post by crownmeking on Jan 4, 2014 20:06:02 GMT
I don't make the law, i was just stating the facts. If you incite racial hatred you're not keeping your opinions to yourself. There is no law against being a racist if you quietly get on with it. Start discriminating or trying to incite others to share your opinions then you would be breaking the law. hope that helps. Is this not what goes on all over this country in Mosques etc., surely the people inciting racial hatred would be arrested and dealt with using the law you mentioned. Use of words or behaviour or display of written material. (1)A person who uses threatening words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, is guilty of an offence if he intends thereby to stir up religious hatred.. (2)An offence under this section may be committed in a public or a private place, except that no offence is committed where the words or behaviour are used, or the written material is displayed, by a person inside a dwelling and are not heard or seen except by other persons in that or another dwelling.. (3)A constable may arrest without warrant anyone he reasonably suspects is committing an offence under this section.. (4)In proceedings for an offence under this section it is a defence for the accused to prove that he was inside a dwelling and had no reason to believe that the words or behaviour used, or the written material displayed, would be heard or seen by a person outside that or any other dwelling.. (5)This section does not apply to words or behaviour used, or written material displayed, solely for the purpose of being included in a programme service
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Post by scarlet on Jan 4, 2014 20:06:24 GMT
A small number from block 19 tried to start the 'Town full of paki's' chant but fortunately it didn't catch on. This chant can mean only two things. Either the group were celebrating the admirable multi-culturism of the city of Leicester, or they were implying that having a Pakistani community somehow makes Leicester inferior to everywhere else. If it was the latter, which let's face it is the most likely, then the chant, shamefully, was racist.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 20:07:07 GMT
What would be the difference if they were chanting town full of Aussies?
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Post by chattyladypotter on Jan 4, 2014 20:08:54 GMT
I don't make the law, i was just stating the facts. If you incite racial hatred you're not keeping your opinions to yourself. There is no law against being a racist if you quietly get on with it. Start discriminating or trying to incite others to share your opinions then you would be breaking the law. hope that helps. ::) Is this not what goes on all over this country in Mosques etc., surely the people inciting racial hatred would be arrested and dealt with using the law you mentioned. I have no idea what goes on in Mosques since I have never been to one.
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Post by metalhead on Jan 4, 2014 20:11:44 GMT
Sat in block 23. Heard no racist chanting
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 20:13:37 GMT
A small number from block 19 tried to start the 'Town full of paki's' chant but fortunately it didn't catch on. This chant can mean only two things. Either the group were celebrating the admirable multi-culturism of the city of Leicester, or they were implying that having a Pakistani community somehow makes Leicester inferior to everywhere else. If it was the latter, which let's face it is the most likely, then the chant, shamefully, was racist. Not "full" perhaps ....but getting there.....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 20:13:42 GMT
What would be the difference if they were chanting town full of Aussies? Aussie isn't a derogatory term.
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Post by lennon1 on Jan 4, 2014 20:16:32 GMT
Frankly, its ludicrous that people are still chanting this rubbish in 2014. It should be "Just a town full of Bulgarians".
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Post by stokeloyal on Jan 4, 2014 20:17:00 GMT
Bollocks. Many White people have been persecuted and kept as slaves etc it's just not as recent in history... White Europeans where at the whip hand of the arabs during the 8th and 9th century. The fact is regardless of race, all peoples tend to have persecution and such in there history at some point. This is another reason why racism is so small minded. Blacks were kept as slaves almost into the 1900's and didn't get equal rights in America until a lot of OUR lifetimes. 9th century.... jesus christ. What a ridiculous comparison. My point is that what he said is incorrect and that regardless of color or creed people have been persecuted though out time. There are many other examples i could have used but to suggest it's only black people who've suffered slavery is what i personally thought was ridiculous. As I and yourself have rightly pointed out black slavery is indeed far more modern form but that doesn't make it any more right in my book. This isn't a slavery dick swinging competition i'm trying to start just pointing out it isn't a blacks only issue!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 20:19:45 GMT
Is this not what goes on all over this country in Mosques etc., surely the people inciting racial hatred would be arrested and dealt with using the law you mentioned. I have no idea what goes on in Mosques since I have never been to one. Do you have no access to media , only commenting what has been reported on national TV and national media outlets, but hey they could be making it up.
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Post by heavysoul on Jan 4, 2014 20:21:00 GMT
Sadly there will always be a minority of people who have such a bigoted attitude. The fact that that our team hail from all corners of the globe show that we are a multi cultural community club. People who chant racist shit should be banned. I don't want my kids listening to this vile shit! From where I was sitting in the family stand I could see lots of different colors in the Leicester end with one thing in common Leicester city cheering their club on. Let's kick racism out of the Britannia stadium.
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Post by chattyladypotter on Jan 4, 2014 20:21:05 GMT
I have no idea what goes on in Mosques since I have never been to one. Do you have no access to media , only commenting what has been reported on national TV and national media outlets, but hey they could be making it up. be a dear and put a link on here, sounds interesting
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 4, 2014 20:21:11 GMT
I heard nothing but presumably a few fuck drips sang something daft. For some reason most racist bollocks I hear these days is either from pretty old people pining for a world that never existed and probably let them down anyhow, or pretty young people who can't tie their own shoelaces.
I'm half glad I'm at a middle age where my main worries are that my gut is growing faster than my overdraft, I have pubes bigger than my cock and the hair I have lost from my head, has congregated on my anus hole and up my nose.
The colour of someone's skin seems quite trivial in such wretched times.
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Post by swinisskill on Jan 4, 2014 20:21:58 GMT
A small number from block 19 tried to start the 'Town full of paki's' chant but fortunately it didn't catch on. This chant can mean only two things. Either the group were celebrating the admirable multi-culturism of the city of Leicester, or they were implying that having a Pakistani community somehow makes Leicester inferior to everywhere else. If it was the latter, which let's face it is the most likely, then the chant, shamefully, was racist. As I said a 'paki' was the one starting that off in 19. I was gobsmacked
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 20:22:18 GMT
What would be the difference if they were chanting town full of Aussies? Aussie isn't a derogatory term. It might be to an Australian, can't see the difference an abbreviation is an abbreviation well it is in English.
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Post by philm87 on Jan 4, 2014 20:22:24 GMT
Love reading these threads... just not too often. Just read one every few months for a bit of a laugh. Any more than that gets depressing.
One thing that ALWAYS happens on these threads is Stafford comes on (always within the first page) with a provocative defence of racism and then declares that 'he doesn't care/isn't bothered'. Almost as if he was just passing by and thought 'Well, I'm not really interested in this subject, but I better comment on this just in case people hadn't read my previous contributions to every single thread on this message board that has ever discussed racism...'
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 20:25:06 GMT
Do you have no access to media , only commenting what has been reported on national TV and national media outlets, but hey they could be making it up. be a dear and put a link on here, sounds interesting Try typing racial incitement into google for a starting point. , not rocket science.
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Post by chattyladypotter on Jan 4, 2014 20:27:39 GMT
be a dear and put a link on here, sounds interesting Try typing racial incitement into google for a starting point. , not rocket science. find me a relevant link that proves your point? thought not
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 20:27:40 GMT
Aussie isn't a derogatory term. It might be to an Australian, can't see the difference an abbreviation is an abbreviation well it is in English. Aussies refer to each other as Aussies frequently. You think the chanting was meant in a complimentary way today do you?
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jan 4, 2014 20:27:52 GMT
Love reading these threads... just not too often. Just read one every few months for a bit of a laugh. Any more than that gets depressing. One thing that ALWAYS happens on these threads is Stafford comes on (always within the first page) with a provocative defence of racism and then declares that 'he doesn't care/isn't bothered'. Almost as if he was just passing by and thought 'Well, I'm not really interested in this subject, but I better comment on this just in case people hadn't read my previous contributions to every single thread on this message board that has ever discussed racism...' Because I think it is over used to a point where others are discriminated against so as not to offend others and that works all ways no matter what race. If you don't like my comments don't fuckin read them. It really isn't very difficult. Zzzzzzzz
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 20:28:18 GMT
Love reading these threads... just not too often. Just read one every few months for a bit of a laugh. Any more than that gets depressing. One thing that ALWAYS happens on these threads is Stafford comes on (always within the first page) with a provocative defence of racism and then declares that 'he doesn't care/isn't bothered'. Almost as if he was just passing by and thought 'Well, I'm not really interested in this subject, but I better comment on this just in case people hadn't read my previous contributions to every single thread on this message board that has ever discussed racism...' Sady I think you are right, if you go (its not worth it) onto the Everything Else board, it's the same posters every time all tip toeing around the fact that they are 'not bothered', but mention it all the time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 20:32:19 GMT
Try typing racial incitement into google for a starting point. , not rocket science. find me a relevant link that proves your point? thought not Can't do links I am afraid, however try typing the subject into your search bar, it really is that simple
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Post by philm87 on Jan 4, 2014 20:33:39 GMT
Love reading these threads... just not too often. Just read one every few months for a bit of a laugh. Any more than that gets depressing. One thing that ALWAYS happens on these threads is Stafford comes on (always within the first page) with a provocative defence of racism and then declares that 'he doesn't care/isn't bothered'. Almost as if he was just passing by and thought 'Well, I'm not really interested in this subject, but I better comment on this just in case people hadn't read my previous contributions to every single thread on this message board that has ever discussed racism...' Because I think it is over used to a point where others are discriminated against so as not to offend others and that works all ways no matter what race. If you don't like my comments don't fuckin read them. It really isn't very difficult. Zzzzzzzz No I enjoy reading your comments. It is the main reason I click on these threads. Even though I already know what you are going to say... it still makes me chuckle. You don't have to bother replying, particularly as you certainly aren't bothered/interested in these discussions anyway.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jan 4, 2014 20:35:04 GMT
Because I think it is over used to a point where others are discriminated against so as not to offend others and that works all ways no matter what race. If you don't like my comments don't fuckin read them. It really isn't very difficult. Zzzzzzzz No I enjoy reading your comments. It is the main reason I click on these threads. Even though I already know what you are going to say... it still makes me chuckle. You don't have to bother replying, particularly as you certainly aren't bothered/interested in these discussions anyway. Haha. The thing I not bothered about is if people agree with me or not.
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Post by rawli on Jan 4, 2014 20:36:05 GMT
Aussie isn't a derogatory term. It might be to an Australian, can't see the difference an abbreviation is an abbreviation well it is in English. What are you going on about? Aussie isn't a derogatory term to Australians. Paki is a derogatory term to Pakistanis. When we play cricket against Australia, Sky will say we are playing the Aussies. They are owned by an Australian so if there was any doubt about it they wouldn't be saying it. If we were playing Pakistan do you really believe they would say it's England against the Pakis?
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Post by lennon1 on Jan 4, 2014 20:39:01 GMT
Baadiff. No problem?
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Post by chattyladypotter on Jan 4, 2014 20:39:36 GMT
find me a relevant link that proves your point? thought not Can't do links I am afraid, however try typing the subject into your search bar, it really is that simple as is inserting a link linkIf it doesn't work i could copy and paste or type it into my browser as I don't see anything that backs up your point, you could just link it to me thanks
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 20:40:32 GMT
It might be to an Australian, can't see the difference an abbreviation is an abbreviation well it is in English. What are you going on about? Aussie isn't a derogatory term to Australians. Paki is a derogatory term to Pakistanis. When we play cricket against Australia, Sky will say we are playing the Aussies. They are owned by an Australian so if there was any doubt about it they wouldn't be saying it. If we were playing Pakistan do you really believe they would say it's England against the Pakis? Now that would not be cricket old bean.
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