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Post by redwhite on Jan 4, 2014 19:23:28 GMT
But we aren't talking about keeping opinions to ones self are we? We are talking about racist chanting at a football match which is most definitely illegal. I would say grouping a bunch of racists as scum fair enough. If of course there is any substance to this in the first place as it seems only one person heard it. H Grouping a bunch of racists as scum would be fair enough but we aren't talking about that are we? We are talking about 'block 19 scum' which is effectively the same as racism because it is discriminating against a group of people. And seeing as there appears no substance to the alleged racist chants makes it all the more unwarranted. Saying that a certain amount of people within a block from a personal experience are 'scum' because of their actions is completely different from racially abusing someone because of being born with different coloured skin.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 4, 2014 19:23:48 GMT
Grouping a bunch of racists as scum would be fair enough but we aren't talking about that are we? We are talking about 'block 19 scum' which is effectively the same as racism because it is discriminating against a group of people. And seeing as there appears no substance to the alleged racist chants makes it all the more unwarranted. This is something that is really making me smile. On this board, the claptrap that gets posted about people, purely as a result of their geographical location, is racism. North South Midlands London Liverpool Manchester It happens daily on here. Race has nothing to do with where you live. Hence why it is called racism.
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Post by lancer on Jan 4, 2014 19:23:48 GMT
Well I sit in block 21 (middle of the boothen) and didn't hear any racist chanting or any other chanting today. Apart from the one person who started this thread did anyone else hear anything? +1 i would not tolerate any racist comments if within my hearing range. I seriously think that there are people on here- not necessarily Stokies or were even at the match - that fabricate these posts to scar our club. I was in the Boothen End, and didn't hear as much as a whissper of racism.
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Post by britvic72 on Jan 4, 2014 19:24:25 GMT
The guy in the class from Liverpool nicknamed "Scouse" The guy with red hair, nicknamed "Red" The guy from Wales is called "Taff" A person from Britain is a "Brit" From Pakistan is "Packie" From the States - Yank In Australia - the guy from UK is a Pomme In the States - we are Limeys So a black guy from Africa being called "Blackie" is wrong? This thread is just showing people's ignorance of racism and is wrong on many levels! Ignorance is bliss!
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jan 4, 2014 19:25:03 GMT
Again you show yourself to be by far the biggest fuckwit on the board.. walk on ... nowt to see just Staffard masking an arse of himself again. Not getting involved in all this bollox again. I really don't care a fuck. Most of the time it is just a bunch of do gooding white fuckers poking their noses where the supposed victims don't want it. Crack on. Do you do English as well?
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Post by chattyladypotter on Jan 4, 2014 19:25:30 GMT
Grouping a bunch of racists as scum would be fair enough but we aren't talking about that are we? We are talking about 'block 19 scum' which is effectively the same as racism because it is discriminating against a group of people. And seeing as there appears no substance to the alleged racist chants makes it all the more unwarranted. This is something that is really making me smile. On this board, the claptrap that gets posted about people, purely as a result of their geographical location, is racism. North South Midlands London Liverpool Manchester It happens daily on here. It does, so is it different that it's against people's colour rather than geographical location? If we chant 'town full of smack heads' to certain teams, is that any better than 'town full of... whatever it was that upset the OP? Surely not and when we turn on our own and call a group in a certain stand 'scum' I am not sure i see any difference. It's just the pot calling the kettle.... errrm (daren't say)!
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Post by britvic72 on Jan 4, 2014 19:25:55 GMT
This is amusing, mainly because the chant was started by a coloured man..... This thread is just showing people's ignorance of racism and is wrong on many levels! Ignorance is bliss!
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 4, 2014 19:29:24 GMT
I can't be arsed to read this thread. No doubt it will feature the usual halfwits saying stuff like "You can't even call black cunts a nigger any more, it's PC Gone mad"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 19:30:36 GMT
My point is that PC (not our owner) has gone over the top these days. Things that are described as racist, I don't actually think are racist.
I was very fortunate to have spent my upbringing abroad. I shared my schooldays with other kids from UK, USA, Australia, New Zealand, Nepal, India, and even Stoke. If you had asked me back then, who were the best scholers in the class, I wouldn't have hesitated to say Nepal.
I hate real racism with a passion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 19:32:43 GMT
I have the same opinion mate but you get called a racist on here for having such thoughts. I am guessing that the chant could have been "your just a town full of p####" If this was the chant is it really that bad? Not saying it's right by the way before someone jumps down my throat. Yes it is that bad you moron. It is meant as an insult, so how do you think the Asian community in Leicester would react to it? Probably similar to the council workers from Leicester who I spoke to in Africa who were told that Happy Xmas was banned and that they were instructed to say happy winter holidays instead so as to not alienate the Pakistani community .... They said they were moving to Australia soon. I don,t fucking blame them. Mumf
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Post by LDE76 on Jan 4, 2014 19:34:30 GMT
I can't be arsed to read this thread. No doubt it will feature the usual halfwits saying stuff like "You can't even call black cunts a nigger any more, it's PC Gone mad" I'm just waiting for the posters who think that being opposed to racism makes you "left-wing".
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Post by rawli on Jan 4, 2014 19:35:03 GMT
Well I guess he didn't really have much choice did he? I'm sure that it never occurred to him that any insult was intended (as there wasn't any insult intended). You stupid old senile bigoted fucking twat.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 19:39:34 GMT
I'm sure that it never occurred to him that any insult was intended (as there wasn't any insult intended). You stupid old senile bigoted fucking twat. Comments like this are fine....but if you add Paki at the end it's fucking awful..... You stupid young bigoted fucking twat..... Ha ha ha ha.... Fantastic.... Infamy...infamy ...they've all got it in for me..... Mumf
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 19:40:00 GMT
I can't be arsed to read this thread. No doubt it will feature the usual halfwits saying stuff like "You can't even call black cunts a nigger any more, it's PC Gone mad" Is this true and what has Mr Coates said/done to make you think he's gone mad.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 19:40:45 GMT
I'm sure that it never occurred to him that any insult was intended (as there wasn't any insult intended). You stupid old senile bigoted fucking twat. Fancy using more than seven words to describe how you have reached that conclusion?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 19:41:29 GMT
Well I sit in block 21 (middle of the boothen) and didn't hear any racist chanting or any other chanting today. Apart from the one person who started this thread did anyone else hear anything? I'm in 21 and never heard anything
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Post by rawli on Jan 4, 2014 19:41:29 GMT
You stupid old senile bigoted fucking twat. Comments like this are fine....but if you add Paki at the end it's fucking awful..... You stupid young bigoted fucking twat..... Ha ha ha ha.... Fantastic.... Infamy...infamy ...they've all got it in for me..... Mumf just a bit of banter that I would have used at school but now realise is unacceptable. Sucker.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Jan 4, 2014 19:42:58 GMT
I struggle to see how the chant could be considered racist, it was distasteful yes, but not racist. It goes to show the IQ of people who partook it that chant when anybody with an IQ of over 10 would know that Leicester consists if many more British Indians then British Pakistanis. However I'd wager a good few quid of many in block 19 not knowing where India or Pakistan in let alone knowing the difference.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 19:46:22 GMT
I struggle to see how the chant could be considered racist, it was distasteful yes, but not racist. It goes to show the IQ of people who partook it that chant when anybody with an IQ of over 10 would know that Leicester consists if many more British Indians then British Pakistanis. However I'd wager a good few quid of many in block 19 not knowing where India or Pakistan in let alone knowing the difference. India is in the West Midlands and Pakistan is in Yorkshire, I thought everyone knew that
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Post by DansViews on Jan 4, 2014 19:46:47 GMT
White fools
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 19:48:11 GMT
I struggle to see how the chant could be considered racist, it was distasteful yes, but not racist. It goes to show the IQ of people who partook it that chant when anybody with an IQ of over 10 would know that Leicester consists if many more British Indians then British Pakistanis. However I'd wager a good few quid of many in block 19 not knowing where India or Pakistan in let alone knowing the difference. I happen to live in Coventry. I live in a very nice street and area - totally surrounded by Sikhs. I wouldn't change my neighbours for anything. But I imagine that they are just Pakis really. To a lot of twats, that is ....
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Post by Stoke-on-Toronto on Jan 4, 2014 19:49:33 GMT
The difference being, black people were persecuted for hundreds of years, white people were not. Bollocks. Many White people have been persecuted and kept as slaves etc it's just not as recent in history... White Europeans where at the whip hand of the arabs during the 8th and 9th century. The fact is regardless of race, all peoples tend to have persecution and such in there history at some point. This is another reason why racism is so small minded. Blacks were kept as slaves almost into the 1900's and didn't get equal rights in America until a lot of OUR lifetimes. 9th century.... jesus christ. What a ridiculous comparison.
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Post by crownmeking on Jan 4, 2014 19:50:00 GMT
Is this the "true support" that Fishlovesoatcakes was on about? this!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 19:52:45 GMT
I struggle to see how the chant could be considered racist, it was distasteful yes, but not racist. It goes to show the IQ of people who partook it that chant when anybody with an IQ of over 10 would know that Leicester consists if many more British Indians then British Pakistanis. However I'd wager a good few quid of many in block 19 not knowing where India or Pakistan in let alone knowing the difference. I happen to live in Coventry. I live in a very nice street and area - totally surrounded by Sikhs. I wouldn't change my neighbours for anything. But I imagine that they are just Pakis really. To a lot of twats, that is .... Reminds me of Custar he was surrounded by Indians, I bet he thought they were Pakis as well the twat.
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Post by crownmeking on Jan 4, 2014 19:54:00 GMT
One is illegal the other isn't. I'm sure I don't need to explain which is which. H I think you will find that it's not illegal to be a racist if you keep your opinions to yourself there is no law against racial hatred, just discrimination. apparently. However that doesn't make it right, same as grouping people as 'scum' because of where they sit or how they look. The pray tell us, why is there a law against inciting racial hatred, if indeed racial hatred is not illegal?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 19:54:24 GMT
Bollocks. Many White people have been persecuted and kept as slaves etc it's just not as recent in history... White Europeans where at the whip hand of the arabs during the 8th and 9th century. The fact is regardless of race, all peoples tend to have persecution and such in there history at some point. This is another reason why racism is so small minded. Blacks were kept as slaves almost into the 1900's and didn't get equal rights in America until a lot of OUR lifetimes. 9th century.... jesus christ. What a ridiculous comparison. Feckin yanks racist bastards.
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Post by lennon1 on Jan 4, 2014 19:54:29 GMT
fought that evry one nows that Parkinstan is not a race; it's a religion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 19:56:51 GMT
Bollocks. Many White people have been persecuted and kept as slaves etc it's just not as recent in history... White Europeans where at the whip hand of the arabs during the 8th and 9th century. The fact is regardless of race, all peoples tend to have persecution and such in there history at some point. This is another reason why racism is so small minded. Blacks were kept as slaves almost into the 1900's and didn't get equal rights in America until a lot of OUR lifetimes. 9th century.... jesus christ. What a ridiculous comparison. Why are you bringing him into the debate? Was he racist?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 19:57:11 GMT
fought that evry one nows that Parkinstan is not a race; it's a religion. Yeh man u is de man bro repec an dat
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Post by chattyladypotter on Jan 4, 2014 19:57:57 GMT
I think you will find that it's not illegal to be a racist if you keep your opinions to yourself there is no law against racial hatred, just discrimination. apparently. However that doesn't make it right, same as grouping people as 'scum' because of where they sit or how they look. The pray tell us, why is there a law against inciting racial hatred, if indeed racial hatred is not illegal? I don't make the law, i was just stating the facts. If you incite racial hatred you're not keeping your opinions to yourself. There is no law against being a racist if you quietly get on with it. Start discriminating or trying to incite others to share your opinions then you would be breaking the law. hope that helps.
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