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Post by roosterscomb on Jan 3, 2014 9:08:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 9:20:59 GMT
Perhaps hoping they can pick one up who is over the limit so they can name them publicly , Staffs Police waste of tax payers money (in my opinion).
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Post by MuddyWoody on Jan 3, 2014 9:22:49 GMT
Perhaps hoping they can pick one up who is over the limit so they can name them publicly , Staffs Police waste of tax payers money (in my opinion). I'd amend that to ALL Police.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 3, 2014 9:26:08 GMT
Get it right - they were driving to "Clayton Wood training ground, in Trent Vale, for a pre-match meal". There is a difference. I assume the police think New Year Day is a "good" day for this type of police operation trying to catch drivers who haven't got over their New Year's Eve session. Which is fair enough. What is worrying is two out of four Stoke players seem to have some issues with their driving licences. That is a big "fail" percentage!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 9:33:03 GMT
Perhaps hoping they can pick one up who is over the limit so they can name them publicly , Staffs Police waste of tax payers money (in my opinion). I'd amend that to ALL Police. Quite possibly, I commented on Staffs Police specifically as I have first hand experience of dealing with them, I have a family member who is employed as a police officer in Staffordshire and if I was honest I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.
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Post by shardia3 on Jan 3, 2014 9:47:39 GMT
2 Questions. Why were 2 stopped and let go. The Police have Vehicle Recognition Software. I assume it was foreign number plates (N'Zonzi and Arnautovic). The main question is however why did the Police Chief feel the need to apologise. What did he apologize for if they were doing their job? Triple time operation a few hours before a Premier League game????
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Post by lstokie on Jan 3, 2014 9:48:38 GMT
Would you expect an apology if you were pulled over on the way to work? Nope, why is it any different. Also these threads show the real idiots for who they are, go a day without the police force then come back and chat the usual uneducated bullshit.
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Post by nott1 on Jan 3, 2014 9:58:08 GMT
I wonder how many burglaries took place whilst they were doing this?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 10:05:44 GMT
Would you expect an apology if you were pulled over on the way to work? Nope, why is it any different. Also these threads show the real idiots for who they are, go a day without the police force then come back and chat the usual uneducated bullshit. We went a couple of days without the police force during the riots, they were there but stood there watching whilst looting etc continued unabated, the only time I see the police is when they are driving past or alternatively sitting in a car harassing motorists. I tell a lie you do see them on the TV usually attacking unarmed members of the public with batons which they appear to enjoy.
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Post by eddyclamp on Jan 3, 2014 10:13:59 GMT
Has nobody told them that Fuller is now at Blackpool
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Post by countofmontecristo on Jan 3, 2014 10:20:39 GMT
Would you expect an apology if you were pulled over on the way to work? Nope, why is it any different. Also these threads show the real idiots for who they are, go a day without the police force then come back and chat the usual uneducated bullshit. We go everyday without a police force now. They are a police service and have been for some time (but any educated person would know that!). It's an important distinction and highlights the fact that enforcing the law is now secondry to their role as pseudo-social workers. They are next to useless at preventing/detecting crime and the fact that they set up random breathtests the day after a national festival in order to catch out otherwise innocent members of the public (who do not have access to the same testing technology as them and probably caught a taxi home the night before in order to not break the law) tells you all you need to know about their priorities.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 10:27:15 GMT
Would you expect an apology if you were pulled over on the way to work? Nope, why is it any different. Also these threads show the real idiots for who they are, go a day without the police force then come back and chat the usual uneducated bullshit. We go everyday without a police force now. They are a police service and have been for some time (but any educated person would know that!). It's an important distinction and highlights the fact that enforcing the law is now secondry to their role as pseudo-social workers. They are next to useless at preventing/detecting crime and the fact that they set up random breathtests the day after a national festival in order to catch out otherwise innocent members of the public (who do not have access to the same testing technology as them and probably caught a taxi home the night before in order to not break the law) tells you all you need to know about their priorities. Service would imply that they actually provide something.
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Post by MuddyWoody on Jan 3, 2014 10:33:17 GMT
We go everyday without a police force now. They are a police service and have been for some time (but any educated person would know that!). It's an important distinction and highlights the fact that enforcing the law is now secondry to their role as pseudo-social workers. They are next to useless at preventing/detecting crime and the fact that they set up random breathtests the day after a national festival in order to catch out otherwise innocent members of the public (who do not have access to the same testing technology as them and probably caught a taxi home the night before in order to not break the law) tells you all you need to know about their priorities. Service would imply that they actually provide something. Which in my experience they don't. But then that's just my uneducated opinion.
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Post by countofmontecristo on Jan 3, 2014 10:40:08 GMT
We go everyday without a police force now. They are a police service and have been for some time (but any educated person would know that!). It's an important distinction and highlights the fact that enforcing the law is now secondry to their role as pseudo-social workers. They are next to useless at preventing/detecting crime and the fact that they set up random breathtests the day after a national festival in order to catch out otherwise innocent members of the public (who do not have access to the same testing technology as them and probably caught a taxi home the night before in order to not break the law) tells you all you need to know about their priorities. Service would imply that they actually provide something. It's how they describe themselves mate - I'd use a different word personally!
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Post by boothenesque on Jan 3, 2014 10:44:48 GMT
Why is it that most of us know where crime is likely to be taking place and who is likely to be doing it, whilst there are those that are paid to know where it is yet choose not to. They suppress evidence, protect high profile sex offenders for as long as possible, protect MPs stealing for as longs as possible, suppress evidence, execute people on trains because they claim they looked shifty, batter a newsagent to death and the guy gets off, assist phone hackers for cash, etc. They are a sinister vile bunch and I have never in my life met a decent one or one you could trust. I think I'd rather trust a criminal than a cop because at least you'd know where you stood. Having said that, if they caught a rich person/footballer still under the influence there is a good chance they would get off with it because money buys you better "justice".
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 3, 2014 10:45:37 GMT
Would you expect an apology if you were pulled over on the way to work? Nope, why is it any different. Also these threads show the real idiots for who they are, go a day without the police force then come back and chat the usual uneducated bullshit. We go everyday without a police force now. They are a police service and have been for some time (but any educated person would know that!). It's an important distinction and highlights the fact that enforcing the law is now secondry to their role as pseudo-social workers. They are next to useless at preventing/detecting crime and the fact that they set up random breathtests the day after a national festival in order to catch out otherwise innocent members of the public (who do not have access to the same testing technology as them and probably caught a taxi home the night before in order to not break the law) tells you all you need to know about their priorities. Otherwise innocent my arse; a fucking stupid defence. Drink driving is drink driving - whether it is 11.00 pm or 11.00 am. New Year Day blitzes on this is a reasonable police tactic to address the problem of "morning after" drivers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 10:48:39 GMT
We go everyday without a police force now. They are a police service and have been for some time (but any educated person would know that!). It's an important distinction and highlights the fact that enforcing the law is now secondry to their role as pseudo-social workers. They are next to useless at preventing/detecting crime and the fact that they set up random breathtests the day after a national festival in order to catch out otherwise innocent members of the public (who do not have access to the same testing technology as them and probably caught a taxi home the night before in order to not break the law) tells you all you need to know about their priorities. Otherwise innocent my arse; a fucking stupid defence. Drink driving is drink driving - whether it is 11.00 pm or 11.00 am. New Year Day blitzes on this is a reasonable police tactic to address the problem of "morning after" drivers. They may want to try testing some of their own staff.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 3, 2014 10:52:57 GMT
All I will say on this subject is Luke McCormick. If you don't know what I'm on about then google the name and read about what happened. Police doing their job FFS New Year's Day morning is absolutely prime time for morning after drink driving and police have every right to stop and conduct random testing. If you don't agree with that then you need your heads testing. No need for any apology IMO. Police stopping drivers often reveals other possible crimes and driving offences as this operation did.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 3, 2014 10:57:24 GMT
Otherwise innocent my arse; a fucking stupid defence. Drink driving is drink driving - whether it is 11.00 pm or 11.00 am. New Year Day blitzes on this is a reasonable police tactic to address the problem of "morning after" drivers. They may want to try testing some of their own staff. Indeed - and this is the pisser with the police (IMO). Make sure your own house is clean; you'll get a lot more support. But every time they fuck up, they close ranks. It's one law for all of us, including you.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 3, 2014 11:01:10 GMT
All I will say in this subject is Luke McCormick. QED
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 11:03:44 GMT
They may want to try testing some of their own staff. Indeed - and this is the pisser with the police (IMO). Make sure your own house is clean; you'll get a lot more support. But every time they fuck up, they close ranks. It's one law for all of us, including you. Funny that as I remember a Police officer is the press being sacked for drink driving at work not so long ago !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 11:05:53 GMT
A few years ago I got stopped in Stafford for a defective brake light, ok, fair enough, but this cockey little prat just out of Police academy asked in a condescending way " Do you know why I have stopped you sir"......" Yes Officer"..I replied..." All crime in Staffordshire has been eradicated, and you are bored and wanted someone to talk to." He actually found it quite funny and just gave me a standard producer....
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 3, 2014 11:07:48 GMT
Indeed - and this is the pisser with the police (IMO). Make sure your own house is clean; you'll get a lot more support. But every time they fuck up, they close ranks. It's one law for all of us, including you. Funny that as I remember a Police officer is the press being sacked for drink driving at work not so long ago ! Sorry - I was wrong to say every time.
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Post by countofmontecristo on Jan 3, 2014 11:09:37 GMT
We go everyday without a police force now. They are a police service and have been for some time (but any educated person would know that!). It's an important distinction and highlights the fact that enforcing the law is now secondry to their role as pseudo-social workers. They are next to useless at preventing/detecting crime and the fact that they set up random breathtests the day after a national festival in order to catch out otherwise innocent members of the public (who do not have access to the same testing technology as them and probably caught a taxi home the night before in order to not break the law) tells you all you need to know about their priorities. Otherwise innocent my arse; a fucking stupid defence. Drink driving is drink driving - whether it is 11.00 pm or 11.00 am. New Year Day blitzes on this is a reasonable police tactic to address the problem of "morning after" drivers. In your opinion. In my opinion there is a difference between ....necking 8 pints and jumping straight behind the wheel because you don't give a fuck ...... and necking 8 pints then calling a taxi and paying over the odds because you don't want to break the law/endanger life, having 8 hours sleep, getting a good breakfast then get pulled over during late morning despite driving safely and for no good reason - getting tested by technology you do not have access to so cannot test yourself and failing by the odd point. In my opinion there is a difference.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 3, 2014 11:15:41 GMT
Otherwise innocent my arse; a fucking stupid defence. Drink driving is drink driving - whether it is 11.00 pm or 11.00 am. New Year Day blitzes on this is a reasonable police tactic to address the problem of "morning after" drivers. In your opinion. In my opinion there is a difference between ....necking 8 pints and jumping straight behind the wheel because you don't give a fuck ...... and necking 8 pints then calling a taxi and paying over the odds because you don't want to break the law/endanger life, having 8 hours sleep, getting a good breakfast then get pulled over during late morning despite driving safely and for no good reason - getting tested by technology you do not have access to so cannot test yourself and failing by the odd point. In my opinion there is a difference. Tell it to the judge. You'll find his opinion is different and yours, on this matter, ain't worth a fuck.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 11:17:20 GMT
Otherwise innocent my arse; a fucking stupid defence. Drink driving is drink driving - whether it is 11.00 pm or 11.00 am. New Year Day blitzes on this is a reasonable police tactic to address the problem of "morning after" drivers. In your opinion. In my opinion there is a difference between ....necking 8 pints and jumping straight behind the wheel because you don't give a fuck ...... and necking 8 pints then calling a taxi and paying over the odds because you don't want to break the law/endanger life, having 8 hours sleep, getting a good breakfast then get pulled over during late morning despite driving safely and for no good reason - getting tested by technology you do not have access to so cannot test yourself and failing by the odd point. In my opinion there is a difference. First off you can get "technology" to help you and for me there is NO differnce at all, if you drink 8 pints rock into bed in the small hours chance are when you get up your still drunk. It's about being an adult and taking responsibility or your own actions.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 3, 2014 11:18:56 GMT
Otherwise innocent my arse; a fucking stupid defence. Drink driving is drink driving - whether it is 11.00 pm or 11.00 am. New Year Day blitzes on this is a reasonable police tactic to address the problem of "morning after" drivers. In your opinion. In my opinion there is a difference between ....necking 8 pints and jumping straight behind the wheel because you don't give a fuck ...... and necking 8 pints then calling a taxi and paying over the odds because you don't want to break the law/endanger life, having 8 hours sleep, getting a good breakfast then get pulled over during late morning despite driving safely and for no good reason - getting tested by technology you do not have access to so cannot test yourself and failing by the odd point. In my opinion there is a difference. Not to anyone killed or injured by a drink driver there isn't! Drink driving can kill people. If people haven't worked out by now that they may be over the limit the morning after a they had a load of drink then they need to be made aware of it. And breath testing by the Police on New Year's morning is as good a way as any to raise the profile of the problem and, hopefully, cut down the number of drink drivers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 11:19:48 GMT
Indeed - and this is the pisser with the police (IMO). Make sure your own house is clean; you'll get a lot more support. But every time they fuck up, they close ranks. It's one law for all of us, including you. Funny that as I remember a Police officer is the press being sacked for drink driving at work not so long ago ! Wonder how his drink driving came to light, maybe the officer was involved in an accident, would be interesting to find out if they carry out random drink/drug tests as happens in a lot of organisations.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 3, 2014 11:21:53 GMT
Funny that as I remember a Police officer is the press being sacked for drink driving at work not so long ago ! Wonder how his drink driving came to light, maybe the officer was involved in an accident, would be interesting to find out if they carry out random drink/drug tests as happens in a lot of organisations. When I lived in Plymouth a Police Officer I knew slightly was caught by a random breath test op, convicted, banned and lost his job. This isn't the same, of course, as the police deliberately carrying out tests on their own staff - like, say, airlines or oil rigs companies do.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 11:22:52 GMT
Funny that as I remember a Police officer is the press being sacked for drink driving at work not so long ago ! Wonder how his drink driving came to light, maybe the officer was involved in an accident, would be interesting to find out if they carry out random drink/drug tests as happens in a lot of organisations. Staffs Police carry out ramdom checks on ALL staff, you get a call and you are breathalised there and then with a limit of 13 not 39 as per the rest of people.
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