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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 0:34:19 GMT
It's not the fact that he made a mistake with the tackle, it happens in football, players make errors. It's the fact that when the full-time whistle went rather than acknowledging the fans and putting his hands up, he walked straight off down the tunnel. Yes I can see it all now. If he had come across and applauded the fans, all would have been forgiven.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 2, 2014 0:36:18 GMT
He's not that far from getting the ball.
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Post by stokeramblers on Jan 2, 2014 0:40:01 GMT
He's not that far from getting the ball.
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Jan 2, 2014 1:02:20 GMT
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Post by padders01 on Jan 2, 2014 1:02:20 GMT
Oh I agree it is absolutely beyond ridiculous
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Post by jarhead on Jan 2, 2014 1:02:21 GMT
I thought he may be the answer to replace Walters but evidently not. He was abject beyond belief and proved to us all he's as thick as shit. Spot on
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 2, 2014 1:03:08 GMT
The fact that he high fived the Everton players was a bit of a give away.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 1:04:46 GMT
I'd be surprised if the thick fucker was bright enough to create the scenario whereby he stands to gain from the situation, the whole idea is ridiculous.
The piece of defending though was so shit, so absolutely shit, twice, that I'd have rammed his head through the dressing-room window when we got back inside.
What very little he offers us now, I'd be happy to see the back of him. The most obscenely wank cameo I can ever remember.
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Post by NassauDave on Jan 2, 2014 1:58:34 GMT
The Everton message board is even suggesting something about match fixing.
They are happy with a point but can't believe their luck that this knob committed such a stupid act today.
If ever there was cause for investigation this was like being caught in a semi with a burglar shirt, a black mask and a bag with Swag written on it.
What a fucking tool.
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Post by shep207 on Jan 2, 2014 2:30:19 GMT
I don't think that there's any chance of match fixing considering there was no certainty he'd even play (as pointed out by another poster earlier). But it really is difficult to believe that anyone could be so utterly stupid to try and hack down a player twice in our own box within the space of 5 seconds with a couple of minutes remaining. What can possibly have been going through his head? Fucking idiotic to say the least..
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 2, 2014 7:09:03 GMT
After watching again Cameron up for Walters on the wing wilko at RB for me shit sub was Pennant.... shitty non defensive sub unlike palacios... Baffling... Pennant for Walters when they have us pinned in....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 7:19:57 GMT
If Pennant was 25 then I'd be willing to give him the benefit of possibly being a 25 year old boy who could still be a late bloomer and mature into a man. Sadly he turns 31 in two weeks and as such it seems he will always be a boy, at least while he's still playing football. Get rid!
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Post by malteser68 on Jan 2, 2014 7:41:16 GMT
The bloke had a nightmare but the abuse he's getting is ridiculous. He clearly got very frustrated and tried to make up for it and failed miserably. In the end he whipped in a fantastic corner to try and make amends. He made a terrible mistake, but that's all it was. He did fairly well against Spurs and is much better than Walters on the ball. It's scary to see that Walters, in this thread at least, is suddenly considered a good defensive player. He's a defensive player but he costs us defensively all the time! For the record I would've brought Arnie on as he looks very good defensively compared to our other options. your defence of the indefensible is simply ridiculous
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Post by trigger on Jan 2, 2014 7:55:05 GMT
The Everton message board is even suggesting something about match fixing. They are happy with a point but can't believe their luck that this knob committed such a stupid act today. If ever there was cause for investigation this was like being caught in a semi with a burglar shirt, a black mask and a bag with Swag written on it. What a fucking tool. Did they have Walters down as their best defender, as on at least two occasions he actually headed away two crosses we put into their area, the first one was pathetic it actually hit him on top of his head.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 8:40:02 GMT
Now I have been a big walters critic but the last three home games in the league he has been real value amd palys well . Interestingly he comes up in a pennant theme who candidly isn't fit to lace Walters boots who would have thought that 2 years ago
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Post by steve66 on Jan 2, 2014 8:51:21 GMT
As daft a trick as that was by Jim (twice if you count the incident seconds before he got away with) I think we're getting a bit embroiled in blaming him for the draw. If that had have happened 3 minutes after we scored, we'd have been a bit pissed off, sucked the mop of a penalty and walked away tonight happy with the draw and our performance, but bemoaning a bit of ill discipline. The fact that it happened in the 2nd minute of added time makes it feel so unjust after the performance we put in against a decent Everton side. Fact is, the game is played over 90 minutes plus added time and there'll be times we grab a clincher in those dying minutes too. Where the fuck Marriner got 4 minutes from is another mystery! Jim has been a bit of a twat, but I'll take a point from Champions League contenders all day long if we continue to put a shift in like we did today. Cheer up Stokies, your new years day hasn't gone as badly as Jermaines Ok but does he give a fook? Long term thing is those lost two points could, though I don't see it happening, see us relegated or at least cost the club a few million quid from TV money with a lower finishing position!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 8:57:07 GMT
Just watched it again and it does take number 1 spot from so Sonko at Blackburn given the time and score in the game ,the 3 fouls which preceeded and his zero contribution up To that point who would ave thought he will now as it's allabotuyour last game be. Labelled as the bloke who was worse than agent
Every chance he will get another chance Saturday though
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Post by RAF on Jan 2, 2014 9:07:49 GMT
As daft a trick as that was by Jim (twice if you count the incident seconds before he got away with) I think we're getting a bit embroiled in blaming him for the draw. If that had have happened 3 minutes after we scored, we'd have been a bit pissed off, sucked the mop of a penalty and walked away tonight happy with the draw and our performance, but bemoaning a bit of ill discipline. The fact that it happened in the 2nd minute of added time makes it feel so unjust after the performance we put in against a decent Everton side. Fact is, the game is played over 90 minutes plus added time and there'll be times we grab a clincher in those dying minutes too. Where the fuck Marriner got 4 minutes from is another mystery! Jim has been a bit of a twat, but I'll take a point from Champions League contenders all day long if we continue to put a shift in like we did today. Cheer up Stokies, your new years day hasn't gone as badly as Jermaines Ok but does he give a fook? Long term thing is those lost two points could, though I don't see it happening, see us relegated or at least cost the club a few million quid from TV money with a lower finishing position! You could say that about the points Walters has cost us this season with his shocking misses. I have him down for personally costing us at least 6 points. So lets not pretend that what the product of Pennants mental actions are , are going to be the soul reason for disaster! H
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Post by andylgr on Jan 2, 2014 9:24:59 GMT
Ok but does he give a fook? Long term thing is those lost two points could, though I don't see it happening, see us relegated or at least cost the club a few million quid from TV money with a lower finishing position! You could say that about the points Walters has cost us this season with his shocking misses. I have him down for personally costing us at least 6 points. So lets not pretend that what the product of Pennants mental actions are, are going to be the soul reason for disaster! H And Walters has got crucified after every game for his misses too.
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Post by jarvinski on Jan 2, 2014 10:03:25 GMT
I didn't hear anybody crucifying him when he won the match at west ham for us. He fucked up yes, but no more than Wilson or whelan at Newcastle. Cut him some slack ffs
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 10:37:14 GMT
He does want gelding, for sure. Another two vital points lost, frustrating. How many is that we,ve blown now?
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Post by serpico on Jan 2, 2014 10:37:48 GMT
Unnecessary and Shocking challenge to make but he was probably just too eager to impress, he was attempting hollywood tackles from the moment he came on.
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Post by RAF on Jan 2, 2014 10:43:39 GMT
You could say that about the points Walters has cost us this season with his shocking misses. I have him down for personally costing us at least 6 points. So lets not pretend that what the product of Pennants mental actions are, are going to be the soul reason for disaster! H And Walters has got crucified after every game for his misses too. Has he bollocks. He's got away fairly lightly in comparison to what is going on here. What he hasn't had is threads entitled 'Walters you cunt' like there was for Pennant until it rightly got deleted, and he certainly hasn't been accused of match fixing, when in all honesty some of his misses could well be construed as such. H
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 2, 2014 10:43:46 GMT
Here comes the walter's brigade. Jaysus! Fact is he and Pennant have cost us points directly with rash tackling and or missed sitters. They've also gotten us points. For me it's at the end of the season if they are in the negative or not cutting it or injured... ship off. Fair? With assaidi's and arnies to chase why try to train an old dog? seriously. Christ people here slate others for not being in position or lazy as if they red card tackle someone or miss a sitter ala adam or pennant yet direct actions somehow are ok and effort and attacking slated... Must be the pulis vs hughes style debate still... I'd rather have people like Arnie and Cameron try to attack and "be out of position" than sit back like tonite's second half and let pennawt or walters try and defend. Ugh.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 2, 2014 10:47:01 GMT
After watching again Cameron up for Walters on the wing wilko at RB for me shit sub was Pennant.... shitty non defensive sub unlike palacios... Baffling... Pennant for Walters when they have us pinned in.... Wilko was not on the bench as he is injured
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 2, 2014 10:49:34 GMT
The bloke had a nightmare but the abuse he's getting is ridiculous. He clearly got very frustrated and tried to make up for it and failed miserably. In the end he whipped in a fantastic corner to try and make amends. He made a terrible mistake, but that's all it was. He did fairly well against Spurs and is much better than Walters on the ball. It's scary to see that Walters, in this thread at least, is suddenly considered a good defensive player. He's a defensive player but he costs us defensively all the time! For the record I would've brought Arnie on as he looks very good defensively compared to our other options. your defence of the indefensible is simply ridiculous Pennant was nearly as bad against Spurs, what about his back pass. He lost the pace he had about 18 months ago, probably due to his approach to life, and has not had a good game for any team since. It is time to move him on because he offers nothing at Premier league level any more
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 2, 2014 10:50:32 GMT
After watching again Cameron up for Walters on the wing wilko at RB for me shit sub was Pennant.... shitty non defensive sub unlike palacios... Baffling... Pennant for Walters when they have us pinned in.... Wilko was not on the bench as he is injured Didn't see the bench' caught the match on telly... so pennant was our best option... Lordy.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 2, 2014 10:55:14 GMT
I think it was the fact he came on and lost his head by giving away 3 free kicks on Baines in the same dangerous position, before gifting them the peno. And sandwiched in between all that he did fuck all. His dodgy temper got the better of him and cost us 2 points. 2 of those 3 free kicks came from blatant dives by Baines. It was shit by Pennant but talk of it being deliberate are stupid really in my opinion. For me, it was a player who had barely played any football for 2 years trying to do something positive and play himself into the game. He didn't do it very well at all and his performance was a shocker but i'm sure he will be gutted about it. Not quite as gutted as us but gutted all the same. As I posted after the Spurs game, it is harsh to expect Pennant to come in and do brilliantly from the start. If he's an option for us, he needs 6-10 games to find his legs. Look at Assaidi as a prime example of that. He was garbage when he first played, fucked after 10 minutes...today he was up and down that line like a man possessed and he turned in a cracking performance. The fact is he has lost the pace he had over 5 yards that made him an attacking threat. Against Spurs it was obvious he couldn't create space to allow him to contribute and he kept looking for freekicks when he came under pressure. This culminated in the mad back pass. He has not had a good game for any team in over 2 years and this includes the spell at Wolves where he was regularly involved. Pulis was hit and miss at ttransfers but typically correct on calls on players he saw every day, like Pulis, Hughes continues to pick Walters, Crouch and Whelan despite all 3 being written off by some groups and players he let go like Tuncay and Marshall hav enot made any great noise. Pulis spotted that Pennant had gone but it got lost in the noise over curfews and personalities but there can surley be no doubt the end of the road is here
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Post by andylgr on Jan 2, 2014 11:41:00 GMT
And Walters has got crucified after every game for his misses too. Has he bollocks. He's got away fairly lightly in comparison to what is going on here. What he hasn't had is threads entitled 'Walters you cunt' like there was for Pennant until it rightly got deleted, and he certainly hasn't been accused of match fixing, when in all honesty some of his misses could well be construed as such. H I agree he hasn't been accused of match fixing (a ridiculous accusation by the way), but Walters has been crucified virtually every game this season, irrespective of whether he's missed a sitter or not.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 11:48:39 GMT
I just hope the Everton players have told him where he parked his car now.
Can someone do a Tossers Team of The Week I'll nominate Pennant and Nolan as a start
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Post by redwhite on Jan 2, 2014 12:26:40 GMT
The bloke had a nightmare but the abuse he's getting is ridiculous. He clearly got very frustrated and tried to make up for it and failed miserably. In the end he whipped in a fantastic corner to try and make amends. He made a terrible mistake, but that's all it was. He did fairly well against Spurs and is much better than Walters on the ball. It's scary to see that Walters, in this thread at least, is suddenly considered a good defensive player. He's a defensive player but he costs us defensively all the time! For the record I would've brought Arnie on as he looks very good defensively compared to our other options. your defence of the indefensible is simply ridiculous I'm not defending his performance, hence describing it as a 'nightmare', I'm merely saying that he is getting completely needless abuse for making a mistake. Pieters Back-Pass against Villa cost us a goal and could very nearly have lost us two points but he wasn't getting abuse, and he made a stupid challenge to grant Newcastle a penalty the next week. This is more frustrating because we were a couple of minutes from winning the game but it just shows that players make mistakes all the time.
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