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Post by spitthedog on Jan 1, 2014 18:51:28 GMT
And please take Walters with you. Two clowns. If JW hadn't have been so abject Pennant would never have been on the pitch You can't blame Walters for the penalty, but you can blame for being so crap for the time he was on the pitch and forcing a substitution.
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Post by andylgr on Jan 1, 2014 18:56:46 GMT
And please take Walters with you. Two clowns. If JW hadn't have been so abject Pennant would never have been on the pitch You can't blame Walters for the penalty, but you can blame for being so crap for the time he was on the pitch and forcing a substitution. Pisser.
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Jan 1, 2014 18:57:18 GMT
And please take Walters with you. Two clowns. If JW hadn't have been so abject Pennant would never have been on the pitch You can't blame Walters for the penalty, but you can blame for being so crap for the time he was on the pitch and forcing a substitution. Walters was clearly injured. He took a knock in the first half and wasn't the same since.
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 1, 2014 18:57:36 GMT
And please take Walters with you. Two clowns. If JW hadn't have been so abject Pennant would never have been on the pitch You can't blame Walters for the penalty, but you can blame for being so crap for the time he was on the pitch and forcing a substitution. I'm sorry but that's nonsense. We know we can't expect a lot from Walters going forward but defensively he was massively important today, and was one of the main reasons we were still winning. I feared the worst when he went off.
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Post by adamsson on Jan 1, 2014 18:59:51 GMT
Can I just check, this is the same Pennant that people were praising as the best winger at the club and slating Mark Hughes for not playing?
Or is there an other one?
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Post by generationex on Jan 1, 2014 19:10:30 GMT
Can I just check, this is the same Pennant that people were praising as the best winger at the club and slating Mark Hughes for not playing? Or is there an other one? Well yeah, but there's always someone with a mental enough opinion if you look long enough on the Internet. Doesn't mean your manager should buy into it though.
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Post by adamsson on Jan 1, 2014 19:24:16 GMT
Can I just check, this is the same Pennant that people were praising as the best winger at the club and slating Mark Hughes for not playing? Or is there an other one? Well yeah, but there's always someone with a mental enough opinion if you look long enough on the Internet. Doesn't mean your manager should buy into it though. The less he plays the better he was, but now he has played everyone can see he is completely past it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2014 19:25:35 GMT
I absolutely agree with every criticism but have a feeling he might start saturday Walters injury in effect turned the ame today as it allowed baines to step up so I think he will rightly keep Walters back until Liverpool .
To be fair to Walters even as. Critic he us great when defending a lead as he is strong enough to hang on to the ball and earn a rest giving free kick so it really cost us Owing him today .
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Post by malteser68 on Jan 1, 2014 19:26:41 GMT
The ref couldn't wait to give it! no pennant made it IMPOSSIBLE for the ref not to give it
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Post by andylgr on Jan 1, 2014 19:27:55 GMT
I absolutely agree with every criticism but have a feeling he might start saturday Walters injury in effect turned the ame today as it allowed baines to step up so I think he will rightly keep Walters back until Liverpool . To be fair to Walters even as. Critic he us great when defending a lead as he is strong enough to hang on to the ball and earn a rest giving free kick so it really cost us Owing him today . Said the same to my lad on the way home tonight. I think pennant will start Saturday, giving him the chance to put that performance behind him and also to rest SJW.
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Post by oatcakesteve on Jan 1, 2014 19:28:55 GMT
He's been good for us, but I think he sealed his fate today.
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Post by malteser68 on Jan 1, 2014 19:29:55 GMT
He'll never play for Stoke again end of. I sure hope so . Ship him off even for free NoW
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Post by ianstokie on Jan 1, 2014 19:30:25 GMT
Phone TP see if he wants him Perhaps someone could give him a lift?
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Post by hatchett on Jan 1, 2014 19:32:16 GMT
Phone TP see if he wants him Perhaps someone could give him a lift? Problem is TP hates him
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Post by malteser68 on Jan 1, 2014 19:44:01 GMT
I'm not a mind reader or particularly superstitious but I have a feeling that our jermaine has played his last game for stoke city fc. I sure hope so
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Jan 1, 2014 19:44:28 GMT
His fragile mental state collapsed today.
Shocking and self-centred, he has let the entire club down. I am not certain he will feel any genuine remorse for his actions?
We've Liverpool & Man U next, every point is vital but Pennant clearly lacks the required professionalism and unity with the club, his effort was well below the rest of the team who gave Everton a real match.
Apologise Jermaine or be damned.
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Post by malteser68 on Jan 1, 2014 19:44:46 GMT
And please take Walters with you. Two clowns. If JW hadn't have been so abject Pennant would never have been on the pitch You can't blame Walters for the penalty, but you can blame for being so crap for the time he was on the pitch and forcing a substitution. are you serious ? JW had one if his best games today
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 1, 2014 19:57:12 GMT
Christ, 2011 seems a long time ago doesn't it?
Back then he was arguably the best right winger I've seen at Stoke.
In 2014 he's a joke. A brainless liability who should never set foot on a pitch in our colours ever again. See if anyone wants him on loan for the rest of the season, or are willing to take his contract over. Failing that just pay him up and fuck him off.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 1, 2014 19:59:50 GMT
To be fair to Pennant 2 of his 4 fouls were blatant dives by Baines.
His tackle for the penalty was stupid particularly as he'd had 2 nibbles at him before eventually bring him down.
He should have done what Walters had been doing all game and just let them cross it.
A sad end to a super Stoke performance.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jan 1, 2014 20:11:19 GMT
It's all Jon fucking Walters fault. If he hadn't have been subbed by Hughes then Pennant wouldn't have been on the pitch!
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 1, 2014 20:25:40 GMT
To be fair John Walters was also wank. Wankness however was taken to a different level by JP.
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Post by kev1060 on Jan 1, 2014 20:40:02 GMT
Just so bloody annoying. I still can't fathom what he was doing.It was as if he was deliberately trying to give Everton a penalty. He was swinging his right leg as if he had no cares in the world, the sort of thing you see in the parks on a Sunday morning!
Those extra 2 points would have given us the breathing space we needed after our Disastrous Xmas games, but instead, we're still only a couple of defeats away from the bottom 3 places.
Totally irresponsible, unprofessional and unforgiveable. Pay up his contract now!
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Jan 1, 2014 20:44:58 GMT
If Pennant had been paid to throw that game he couldn't have done a better job Giving away needless free kicks in the danger zone then having two bites at giving away a penalty. The final foul being a yard inside the touchline - no one with any sense would have conceded a penalty in that position. He is either brain dead or........
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 1, 2014 20:47:12 GMT
Walters wouldn't of gifted them the pen simple!
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Post by owdestokie on Jan 1, 2014 20:47:32 GMT
Walters needed fucking off he was woeful today. Hughes needs a bollocking for bringing on a player who has had hardly a peep all season and expecting him to do a job at such a critical stage, Pennant needs fucking for his performance. All in all I blame Walters for being shite and having to be replaced! H Full marks for consistency
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Post by owdestokie on Jan 1, 2014 20:50:13 GMT
And please take Walters with you. Two clowns. If JW hadn't have been so abject Pennant would never have been on the pitch You can't blame Walters for the penalty, but you can blame for being so crap for the time he was on the pitch and forcing a substitution. FFS . Another dig at Walters post
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Post by jonnyp on Jan 1, 2014 20:50:34 GMT
Irresponsible - ill give you that. But unprofessional & unforgivable??? Come on, get a grip. I've seen hundreds of similar tackles from attacking players in the past. I'm well pissed off about it but the guy didn't do it on purpose. And all this crap about worst sub performance ever, 20 mins of insanity etc etc I can only assume there were a lot of people attending their first game today. Reaction has been totally OTT
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Post by andylgr on Jan 1, 2014 21:03:57 GMT
Can anyone think of worse subs appearance though than that today?
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Post by Eggybread on Jan 1, 2014 21:27:00 GMT
I was sitting in row 8 of the South stand today.Basically directly in front of Pennants attempted tackle.All I can say is that I truly believe he never even went to get the ball and purposely fouled the player.What I am saying is that imo Pennant deliberately gave them the penalty.It was that obvious there can be no other explanation for it.
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Post by stokie25 on Jan 1, 2014 21:29:54 GMT
As daft a trick as that was by Jim (twice if you count the incident seconds before he got away with) I think we're getting a bit embroiled in blaming him for the draw. If that had have happened 3 minutes after we scored, we'd have been a bit pissed off, sucked the mop of a penalty and walked away tonight happy with the draw and our performance, but bemoaning a bit of ill discipline. The fact that it happened in the 2nd minute of added time makes it feel so unjust after the performance we put in against a decent Everton side. Fact is, the game is played over 90 minutes plus added time and there'll be times we grab a clincher in those dying minutes too. Where the fuck Marriner got 4 minutes from is another mystery! Jim has been a bit of a twat, but I'll take a point from Champions League contenders all day long if we continue to put a shift in like we did today. Cheer up Stokies, your new years day hasn't gone as badly as Jermaines
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