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Post by fromtheusa on Nov 6, 2013 14:35:45 GMT
Damn I read your post history, your a fanboy from Texas. Let me let you in on a secret, I could kick Shea's ass in 10 seconds, and smoke him in a 100 meter or 40 yard dash. I regret saying that but it's true. I don't give a shit about that, I care about him sucking at soccer and getting a pass because you fan-boys refuse to watch games. You think it doesn't matter, but does and you fanboys are killing the sport in America. Sorry for the rant but I think you wanted it. Ok that's it. I've heard enough of this. You've said you think Shea sucks a million times now (We get it). I speculate you and fromtheusa constantly berate him because you're doing your best to make our (usa) talent pool look stronger in front of our British crowd here, who are understandably growing thin on patience with Brek. Well, let me be quite frank with our British crowd. It doesn't get much better in America. Soccer is a relatively new sport to us, so our talent pool doesn't run that deep. Shea is still very much our golden child, and we are still depending on him to come through at Stoke, despite his recent struggles. We can pretend all we want that he sucks, and that we have so many more better players bla ba bla...but we don't. So drop the act. Now to shoot down the 'Shea sucks' argument . Brek is a rare physical specimen with acute crossing ability and a knack for finishing/making things happen in general. It's true, he can be shockingly bad sometimes when not in form/confident (Some would argue the lack of form derives from injuries). But ohhhhh my word, he is honestly one of the scariest wingers I've seen when he's on. And I know that since you seem to remember all the bad things he's done, you'll likely remember all the good, and you should agree. He's Absolutely lethal at times. What you should be saying, is that Brek is terribly inconsistent. That is an acceptable thing to say, as it is true. But he most certainly does not suck. Dude was trolling me into bashing Shea so I did. Please post 1 clip of Shea dribbling past a defender for the USA, then passing the ball to someones feet. "But ohhhhh my word, he is honestly one of the scariest wingers I've seen when he's on." Please do not say that, it's very ignorant and embarrassing. Shea can't dribble at players, please show me one clip of Shea dribbling at a defender in control. Where do you fanboys come-up with this shit? Just to let you know if you do hype Shea just talk about his left foot, drop this physical specimen shit, it's 100% based off fanboy tweets. Or please show me a clip of his amazing speed and strength. Please do not show the same clip of him dribbling past a gimpy Torsten Frings in the MLS. PLease stop basing you knowdledge of players on MLS articles and fanboy tweets and try watching a game.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 6, 2013 14:52:47 GMT
Ok that's it. I've heard enough of this. You've said you think Shea sucks a million times now (We get it). I speculate you and fromtheusa constantly berate him because you're doing your best to make our (usa) talent pool look stronger in front of our British crowd here, who are understandably growing thin on patience with Brek. Well, let me be quite frank with our British crowd. It doesn't get much better in America. Soccer is a relatively new sport to us, so our talent pool doesn't run that deep. Shea is still very much our golden child, and we are still depending on him to come through at Stoke, despite his recent struggles. We can pretend all we want that he sucks, and that we have so many more better players bla ba bla...but we don't. So drop the act. Now to shoot down the 'Shea sucks' argument . Brek is a rare physical specimen with acute crossing ability and a knack for finishing/making things happen in general. It's true, he can be shockingly bad sometimes when not in form/confident (Some would argue the lack of form derives from injuries). But ohhhhh my word, he is honestly one of the scariest wingers I've seen when he's on. And I know that since you seem to remember all the bad things he's done, you'll likely remember all the good, and you should agree. He's Absolutely lethal at times. What you should be saying, is that Brek is terribly inconsistent. That is an acceptable thing to say, as it is true. But he most certainly does not suck. Dude was trolling me into bashing Shea so I did.
Please post 1 clip of Shea dribbling past a defender for the USA, then passing the ball to someones feet. "But ohhhhh my word, he is honestly one of the scariest wingers I've seen when he's on." Please do not say that, it's very ignorant and embarrassing. Shea can't dribble at players, please show me one clip of Shea dribbling at a defender in control. Where do you fanboys come-up with this shit? Just to let you know if you do hype Shea just talk about his left foot, drop this physical specimen shit, it's 100% based off fanboy tweets. Or please show me a clip of his amazing speed and strength. Please do not show the same clip of him dribbling past a gimpy Torsten Frings in the MLS. PLease stop basing you knowdledge of players on MLS articles and fanboy tweets and try watching a game. You already had in this thread about AGUDELO! Would you please give it a rest, it got very boring very quickly.
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Post by fromtheusa on Nov 6, 2013 14:55:04 GMT
I'm done I promise, I got to stop letting these fanboys get to me. This making up athleticism stuff in sports is very unAmerican. In all other sports we hyper ananlyze althetes with 40 yards, 60 yard, vertical leaps, 100 meters ect. These times can me jackshit but it does give you somewhat of an idea of a players athleticism.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2013 15:14:05 GMT
bloody americans
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Post by seventhrowscreamer on Nov 6, 2013 19:01:51 GMT
Rules have been bent for Americans before. How the hell did Robbie Rogers get a work permit? Maybe because Robbie was bent
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Post by agingerstokie on Nov 6, 2013 19:07:59 GMT
I apologize, I didn't realize he was black. I also don't mean to offend with the statement, plenty of good white players in the NFL. There has just been 1 white CB in the NFL in the last 20 years. Just saw this on the NFL thread about Jon Walters which means that I really can't take anything this fella says seriously.
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Post by seventhrowscreamer on Nov 6, 2013 19:09:32 GMT
I'm done I promise, I got to stop letting these fanboys get to me. This making up athleticism stuff in sports is very unAmerican. In all other sports we hyper ananlyze althetes with 40 yards, 60 yard, vertical leaps, 100 meters ect. These times can me jackshit but it does give you somewhat of an idea of a players athleticism. Quit eating all that american ginseng and you won't get so excited about your brother Brek.
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Post by seventhrowscreamer on Nov 6, 2013 19:17:56 GMT
Juan will only benefit in following in a superior footballers shoes like Shea. How many goals has Juan scored for the USA in competitive matches? Two less than your daddy Brek! Oh yeah baby. Damn I read your post history, your a fanboy from Texas. Let me let you in on a secret, I could kick Shea's ass in 10 seconds, and smoke him in a 100 meter or 40 yard dash. I regret saying that but it's true. I don't give a shit about that, I care about him sucking at soccer and getting a pass because you fan-boys refuse to watch games. You think it doesn't matter, but does and you fanboys are killing the sport in America. Sorry for the rant but I think you wanted it. fact check. Juan has scored 18 goals in MLS as a striker. Brek scored 19 goals in MLS as a winger. Proof that you are no judge of talent. You may be a good judge of corn mash and snake handling but not footballers.
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Post by fromtheusa on Nov 6, 2013 19:19:43 GMT
I apologize, I didn't realize he was black. I also don't mean to offend with the statement, plenty of good white players in the NFL. There has just been 1 white CB in the NFL in the last 20 years. Just saw this on the NFL thread about Jon Walters which means that I really can't take anything this fella says seriously. What are you talking about? I saw the gif and thought Walters was white. Jason Seahorn is the only white CB in the NFL in the last 20 years. That's just a fact. Please let me know if you find a white CB in the NFL.
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Post by seventhrowscreamer on Nov 6, 2013 19:24:23 GMT
Just saw this on the NFL thread about Jon Walters which means that I really can't take anything this fella says seriously. What are you talking about? I saw the gif and thought Walters was white. Jason Seahorn is the only white CB in the NFL in the last 20 years. That's just a fact. Please let me know if you find a white CB in the NFL. you're quiet fast. why don't you play db?
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 6, 2013 19:25:04 GMT
Will you two get a fooking room!!!!
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Post by fromtheusa on Nov 6, 2013 19:33:16 GMT
Damn I read your post history, your a fanboy from Texas. Let me let you in on a secret, I could kick Shea's ass in 10 seconds, and smoke him in a 100 meter or 40 yard dash. I regret saying that but it's true. I don't give a shit about that, I care about him sucking at soccer and getting a pass because you fan-boys refuse to watch games. You think it doesn't matter, but does and you fanboys are killing the sport in America. Sorry for the rant but I think you wanted it. fact check. Juan has scored 18 goals in MLS as a striker. Brek scored 19 goals in MLS as a winger. Proof that you are no judge of talent. You may be a good judge of corn mash and snake handling but not footballers. Please stop, I don't know shit about football, but I can tell you a lot about stats. Juan is 20!!! Shea didn't score his first goal till his 3rd MLS season when he was was 20. Juan scored his first USA goal at 17. And this conversation rubs me wrong because it's everything I'm scared of from you fanboys. You fanboys making up shit to defend your goldenboy when their is a Latino player that is on another level. You do realize you fanboys not watching games and hyping Shea based on his art has derailed Shea's career. He doesn't have a chance to play for Stoke, and Stoke don't want to loan him to a League 1 team to keep face.
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Post by seventhrowscreamer on Nov 6, 2013 19:34:37 GMT
Will you two get a fooking room!!!! Aye! I'm not Robbie Rogers
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 6, 2013 19:36:28 GMT
Will you two get a fooking room!!!! Aye! I'm not Robbie Rogers
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Post by fromtheusa on Nov 7, 2013 15:36:35 GMT
Damn I read your post history, your a fanboy from Texas. Let me let you in on a secret, I could kick Shea's ass in 10 seconds, and smoke him in a 100 meter or 40 yard dash. I regret saying that but it's true. I don't give a shit about that, I care about him sucking at soccer and getting a pass because you fan-boys refuse to watch games. You think it doesn't matter, but does and you fanboys are killing the sport in America. Sorry for the rant but I think you wanted it. Ok that's it. I've heard enough of this. You've said you think Shea sucks a million times now (We get it). I speculate you and fromtheusa constantly berate him because you're doing your best to make our (usa) talent pool look stronger in front of our British crowd here, who are understandably growing thin on patience with Brek. Well, let me be quite frank with our British crowd. It doesn't get much better in America. Soccer is a relatively new sport to us, so our talent pool doesn't run that deep. Shea is still very much our golden child, and we are still depending on him to come through at Stoke, despite his recent struggles. We can pretend all we want that he sucks, and that we have so many more better players bla ba bla...but we don't. So drop the act. Now to shoot down the 'Shea sucks' argument . Brek is a rare physical specimen with acute crossing ability and a knack for finishing/making things happen in general. It's true, he can be shockingly bad sometimes when not in form/confident (Some would argue the lack of form derives from injuries). But ohhhhh my word, he is honestly one of the scariest wingers I've seen when he's on. And I know that since you seem to remember all the bad things he's done, you'll likely remember all the good, and you should agree. He's Absolutely lethal at times. What you should be saying, is that Brek is terribly inconsistent. That is an acceptable thing to say, as it is true. But he most certainly does not suck. I will get laughed at but you do know about as many kids play soccer/football in America as England. It's just that mostly crappy athletes play it in America. America can compete for the best in any sport Boxing, Basketball, Judo, Swimming, Volleyball, Darts, ect.. Expect football/soccer. And we have way more kids playing soccer then boxing/judo. This small player pool is bull, it's more shitty player pool. (Counting females youth playing football/soccer I would say more American youths play the sport then in England.) MLS has some physical talents, they are mostly Jamaicans, Gambians, Argentinian ect. Instead of this "great-white hype"; us Americans should be writing our congress to put the Crew's Higuan and some of those West Africans playing for Portland on a fast track for citizenship. Were American, we can compete with the best, if not we need to make new laws or change the rules. Laugh go ahead, do you remember when the NFL Channel was going to blackout a New England Pats game until Senator John Kerry had a talk with them. Problem is too many USA fans care more about Sacha Kljestan's mustache then winning. (I don't mind Sacha but Ghana will treat him like a 12 year old.)
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Nov 7, 2013 20:58:19 GMT
Ok that's it.  I've heard enough of this.  You've said you think Shea sucks a million times now (We get it).  I speculate you and fromtheusa constantly berate him because you're doing your best to make our (usa) talent pool look stronger in front of our British crowd here, who are understandably growing thin on patience with Brek.  Well, let me be quite frank with our British crowd.  It doesn't get much better in America.  Soccer is a relatively new sport to us, so our talent pool doesn't run that deep. Shea is still very much our golden child, and we are still depending on him to come through at Stoke, despite his recent struggles.  We can pretend all we want that he sucks, and that we have so many more better players bla ba bla...but we don't.  So drop the act. Now to shoot down the 'Shea sucks' argument .  Brek is a rare physical specimen with acute crossing ability and a knack for finishing/making things happen in general.  It's true, he can be shockingly bad sometimes when not in form/confident (Some would argue the lack of form derives from injuries).  But ohhhhh my word, he is honestly one of the scariest wingers I've seen when he's on.  And I know that since you seem to remember all the bad things he's done, you'll likely remember all the good, and you should agree.  He's Absolutely lethal at times.  What you should be saying, is that Brek is terribly inconsistent.  That is an acceptable thing to say, as it is true.  But he most certainly does not suck.  I will get laughed at but you do know about as many kids play soccer/football in America as England. It's just that mostly crappy athletes play it in America. America can compete for the best in any sport Boxing, Basketball, Judo, Swimming, Volleyball, Darts, ect.. Expect football/soccer. And we have way more kids playing soccer then boxing/judo. This small player pool is bull, it's more shitty player pool. (Counting females youth playing football/soccer I would say more American youths play the sport then in England.) MLS has some physical talents, they are mostly Jamaicans, Gambians, Argentinian ect. Instead of this "great-white hype"; us Americans should be writing our congress to put the Crew's Higuan and some of those West Africans playing for Portland on a fast track for citizenship. Were American, we can compete with the best, if not we need to make new laws or change the rules. Laugh go ahead, do you remember when the NFL Channel was going to blackout a New England Pats game until Senator John Kerry had a talk with them. Problem is too many USA fans care more about Sacha Kljestan's mustache then winning. (I don't mind Sacha but Ghana will treat him like a 12 year old.) FFS from! I agree with you that Shea is crap, and that America is the biggest football (soccer) hating nation in the world. But what I can't stand is how you use then instead of than when comparing two players. Then=next Than= comparison For example: I'm having a sandwich then a beer. Shea is worse than a pile of turd. I hope this helps, and I'm not trying to troll you like some fanboy.
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Post by crownmeking on Nov 7, 2013 21:11:38 GMT
What a pair of *****!
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Post by ColonelMustard on Nov 7, 2013 21:18:51 GMT
it's deadlocked and looks to be going into overtime
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 20, 2013 9:40:26 GMT
SentinelMeanwhile, Stoke manager Mark Hughes and chief executive Tony Scholes were due at a work permit hearing today to argue the case for signing American international striker Juan Sebastian Agudelo.
If granted the permit, Agudelo will be available to make his debut from January 1 following his signing as a free agent after his contract expired with MLS outfit New England Revolution.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2013 10:18:26 GMT
Fingers crossed I have seen some clips and I am genuinly excited by this lad. My only fear is the wankers at the fa will deny little old stoke a work permit but then a top 6 club picks up on it and hey presto work permit granted!
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Post by unknown182 on Nov 20, 2013 10:21:22 GMT
When is the earliest he's able to come and train here?. The sooner he gets involved with the squad the better
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 20, 2013 10:52:36 GMT
He was speaking on twitter as if he's ready to come over as soon as he gets the permit? Just hope the suits don't choose this particular battle to make their point about the parade of questionable foreigners coming over and clogging up Premier League squads, in the aftermath of the debate about where we're going wrong. It does seem to be entirely in their gift to argue he doesn't meet the 'exceptional talent' criterion. Gifted and promising as he is, after a splurge of early caps, he hasn't actually got near an average USA squad for several years, has he? Never mind actually feature in a meaningful match for them Just because they've waved through American non-entity crap as bad as Robbie Rogers, Robbie Findley and Tim Ream, doesn't mean to say it'll continue? Fingers crossed though. He does look to have some ability
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Post by stokiejoe on Nov 20, 2013 10:59:37 GMT
When is the earliest he's able to come and train here?. The sooner he gets involved with the squad the better Assuming his American season is over he is able to visit here but not work. Whether training is considered to be work I would guess depends upon whether he is being paid to do it?
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Post by mamasgloves on Nov 20, 2013 12:49:47 GMT
fact check. Juan has scored 18 goals in MLS as a striker. Brek scored 19 goals in MLS as a winger. Proof that you are no judge of talent. You may be a good judge of corn mash and snake handling but not footballers. Please stop, I don't know shit about football, but I can tell you a lot about stats. Juan is 20!!! Shea didn't score his first goal till his 3rd MLS season when he was was 20. Juan scored his first USA goal at 17. And this conversation rubs me wrong because it's everything I'm scared of from you fanboys. You fanboys making up shit to defend your goldenboy when their is a Latino player that is on another level. You do realize you fanboys not watching games and hyping Shea based on his art has derailed Shea's career. He doesn't have a chance to play for Stoke, and Stoke don't want to loan him to a League 1 team to keep face.
I'm pretty sure you're oblivious to how much of a tit you sound?
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Post by stokiejoe on Nov 20, 2013 15:04:22 GMT
Refused We have a problem, presumably we can appeal.
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Post by BigKahunaBurger on Nov 20, 2013 15:05:09 GMT
Unbelievable
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Post by stokiejoe on Nov 20, 2013 15:06:26 GMT
Bet it would have been granted for Arsenic or Manure.
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Post by fromtheusa on Nov 20, 2013 15:07:19 GMT
And this conversation rubs me wrong because it's everything I'm scared of from you fanboys. You fanboys making up shit to defend your goldenboy when their is a Latino player that is on another level. You do realize you fanboys not watching games and hyping Shea based on his art has derailed Shea's career. He doesn't have a chance to play for Stoke, and Stoke don't want to loan him to a League 1 team to keep face.
I'm pretty sure you're oblivious to how much of a tit you sound? This was dead why bring it back? Did you watch Shea play yesterday? That's how he always plays when he starts. Everyone knows he can't play for Stoke.
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Post by stokeramblers on Nov 20, 2013 15:07:42 GMT
Aren't they generally always refused at the first hearing then they go to the appeal and everything gets the ok usually. Wasn't that the process with Cameron...?
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Post by BigKahunaBurger on Nov 20, 2013 15:08:41 GMT
Aren't they generally always refused at the first hearing then they go to the appeal and everything gets the ok usually. Wasn't that the process with Cameron...? If FM is anything to go by, then yes!
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