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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 17:56:13 GMT
Personally I think England should pull out - even if UEFA doesn't.
We wont get far in it anyway?
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 29, 2015 17:58:47 GMT
Spotlight now firmly on UEFA and Platini. He must go himself if UEFA does not act given his posturing this week. What a cluster fuck. UEFA meet in Berlin next week, it'll be interesting to see if Platini's posturing yesterday will lead to anything, or it will ultimately be remembered as nothing more than hot air. Sadly, I suspect it will be the latter.
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 29, 2015 17:59:22 GMT
World football would be glad to get rid of England. UEFA need to act. Withdraw from Fifa and organise there own tournament, and invite other federations to participate. It's time for action but nothing will be done. UEFA won't do anything as Spain and France voted for Blatter. Source please Gordon?
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 29, 2015 18:03:44 GMT
UEFA won't do anything as Spain and France voted for Blatter. Source please Gordon? They've been running with it on SSN mate.
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Post by Pugsley on May 29, 2015 18:04:18 GMT
Spotlight now firmly on UEFA and Platini. He must go himself if UEFA does not act given his posturing this week. What a cluster fuck. UEFA meet in Berlin next week, it'll be interesting to see if Platini's posturing yesterday will lead to anything, or it will ultimately be remembered as nothing more than hot air. Sadly, I suspect it will be the latter. Think you are right. He's more than likely got his eye on the top job in four years time. It's about time the players said something. The likes of Ronaldo, Messi, Lahm etc coming out and voicing there concerns can only help to bring about change. Looks like it's down to the FBI to rescue football from these crooks.
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 29, 2015 18:12:02 GMT
They've been running with it on SSN mate. Cheers Paul don't subscribe to Murdoch's empire. But this is very strange outcome because Platinin told Blatter to stand down yesterday if we are to believe the media. Yet his own countries FA voted for Blatter. Something very fishy here don't you think?? You'd have expected the French FA to fall in behind Platini or am I being too simplistic.
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Post by stokiejoe on May 29, 2015 18:14:40 GMT
My bet is that Blatter will have finished hisvfull term of office before this comes to court. Only hope is the unlikely event of something being found against him.
Interesting that FIFA is registered as a charity, sadly we know the main beneficiaries.
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Post by Boothen on May 29, 2015 18:15:54 GMT
Corrupt African regimes propping up a corrupt organisation. Who'd have thunk it?
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 29, 2015 18:17:42 GMT
They've been running with it on SSN mate. Cheers Paul don't subscribe to Murdoch's empire. But this is very strange outcome because Platinin told Blatter to stand down yesterday if we are to believe the media. Yet his own countries FA voted for Blatter. Something very fishy here don't you think?? You'd have expected the French FA to fall in behind Platini or am I being too simplistic. Yeah they were asking the same question mate. Essentially Platter as the head of UEFA was representing the views of the majority of the UEFA members which apparently is at odds with the French.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 18:19:53 GMT
What difference would it have made if the other one was elected? We should withdraw from these next two tournaments anyway. We are the motherland offootball and we have been insulted. It is a disgrace we haven't held the tournament since 66. We need to make a stand You're absolutely right . We should withdraw and urge the rest to the same . Will it happen ? I doubt it . The whole situation is a corrupt mess . Football at the highest level is a complete shambles . Crap. Gregg Dyke on sky news ... England will not withdraw from anything ..."
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Post by trigger on May 29, 2015 19:09:34 GMT
I'm making a stance here, from this day onwards I will never purchase items from companies that sponsor this corrupt organisation and to start the ball rolling out I've today purchased a pair of NB trainers rather than ADIDAS, have that Blatter..boom
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Post by march4 on May 29, 2015 19:36:37 GMT
Campaign against Blatter is building tonight. Dyke seems confident something is imminent.
Reminds me of Thatcher 'winning' her leadership vote, but in reality she was so damaged by the process she had to resign.
Ali had to withdraw to be in any position to take over as soon as Blatter is gone. He couldn't afford to be accused of deliberately splitting FIFA.
Blatter can save face by resigning for the good of FIFA rather than being humiliated by being booted out.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 19:39:37 GMT
Campaign against Blatter is building tonight. Dyke seems confident something is imminent. Reminds me of Thatcher 'winning' her leadership vote, but in reality she was so damaged by the process she had to resign. Ali had to withdraw to be in any position to take over as soon as Blatter is gone. He couldn't afford to be accused of deliberately splitting FIFA. Blatter can save face by resigning for the good of FIFA rather than being humiliated by being booted out. I suppose technically they would have to pin something on him personally .....because FIFA has spoken .
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Post by march4 on May 29, 2015 19:42:39 GMT
Campaign against Blatter is building tonight. Dyke seems confident something is imminent. Reminds me of Thatcher 'winning' her leadership vote, but in reality she was so damaged by the process she had to resign. Ali had to withdraw to be in any position to take over as soon as Blatter is gone. He couldn't afford to be accused of deliberately splitting FIFA. Blatter can save face by resigning for the good of FIFA rather than being humiliated by being booted out. I suppose technically they would have to pin something on him personally .....because FIFA has spoken . The way that Ali suddenly withdrew strikes me as though some sort of a deal has been done.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 19:46:20 GMT
It doesn't give me any confidence I'm afraid . However , there must be bucketfuls of allegations to be laid at Blatters door . It simply hasn't percolated through the investigations yet. He's not someone who would simply walk away .
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Post by march4 on May 29, 2015 19:58:18 GMT
It doesn't give me any confidence I'm afraid . However , there must be bucketfuls of allegations to be laid at Blatters door . It simply hasn't percolated through the investigations yet. He's not someone who would simply walk away . There seems to be a lot of talk about; he'll be gone in 2 years. Would you trust him if he has said he will resign within two years so Ali can take over? UEFA need to ratchet up the pressure at their meeting next week. If they can propose an alternative tournament in 2018 and they will have all of the major sponsors for their tournament it would be a good start. The likes of the US, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Australia & New Zealand then need to get behind the proposal. I suppose UEFA would need to threaten any European country who boycott their tournament that they will not be allowed any clubs in European competitions.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 20:04:23 GMT
To be honest Marchy I think someone will squeal and drop him and a few others in the shit thus hastening his demise . The American investigators are excellent at putting the pressure on where it matters ..a long prison sentence .
That's the only way I can see it going . He's only hanging on to keep himself out of trouble ....
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Post by harryburrows on May 29, 2015 20:09:45 GMT
Corrupt African regimes propping up a corrupt organisation. Who'd have thunk it? 5 live interviewed the Nigerian delegate today , singing batters praises . He then said FIFA must adopt a zero tolerance to corruption as there is in Nigeria
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Post by lordb on May 29, 2015 20:25:15 GMT
You're absolutely right . We should withdraw and urge the rest to the same . Will it happen ? I doubt it . The whole situation is a corrupt mess . Football at the highest level is a complete shambles . Crap. Gregg Dyke on sky news ... England will not withdraw from anything ..."''…on their own...'' 100% agree with Dyke. UEFA as a block would be dynamite. England on its own futile. There are doubts about other European FA' s. Ball is in Platini' s court now.
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Post by upthefud on May 29, 2015 20:31:37 GMT
What we need is for UEFA to support the idea of BOYCOTTING THE SPONSORS ON A EUROPEAN SCALE.
It's the only way.
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 29, 2015 20:33:09 GMT
I have this horrible feeling this will end up, as we used to say in the Navy, SNAFU.....Situation Normal: All Fucked Up
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 20:34:56 GMT
Hopefully all is not lost with Blatter's re-election. Our PM has joined in the debate, MI6 has been mentioned and the SCS is involved. I can't see Blatter surviving long.
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Post by stokiejoe on May 29, 2015 20:41:45 GMT
I suppose technically they would have to pin something on him personally .....because FIFA has spoken . The way that Ali suddenly withdrew strikes me as though some sort of a deal has been done. It was said that the most he could expect was to cause the "embarrassment" of a second vote. He needed a swing of about 33 votes to be elected in the second ballot and he was likely to get a reduced vote as some of his "supporters" backed the winner. Don't think there was anything sinister, just knowing when to give up.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 20:43:18 GMT
Gregg Dyke on sky news ... England will not withdraw from anything ..."''…on their own...'' 100% agree with Dyke. UEFA as a block would be dynamite. England on its own futile. There are doubts about other European FA' s. Ball is in Platini' s court now. At some point though, someone, somewhere is going to have to do the right thing. Everybody is waiting for someone to go first. If the organisation is as corrupt as people are thinking and saying, then why would any right thinking person want to be a part of it. We gave this game to the world. Why shouldn't we be the first ones to try and reclaim it? Maybe we wouldn't be in isolation for long.
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Post by lordb on May 29, 2015 20:48:59 GMT
''…on their own...'' 100% agree with Dyke. UEFA as a block would be dynamite. England on its own futile. There are doubts about other European FA' s. Ball is in Platini' s court now. At some point though, someone, somewhere is going to have to do the right thing. Everybody is waiting for someone to go first. If the organisation is as corrupt as people are thinking and saying, then why would any right thinking person want to be a part of it. We gave this game to the world. Why shouldn't we be the first ones to try and reclaim it? Maybe we wouldn't be in isolation for long. That someone is Platini. If England did it UDI it would be easy fir Blatter to portray us as arrogant.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 20:52:44 GMT
At some point though, someone, somewhere is going to have to do the right thing. Everybody is waiting for someone to go first. If the organisation is as corrupt as people are thinking and saying, then why would any right thinking person want to be a part of it. We gave this game to the world. Why shouldn't we be the first ones to try and reclaim it? Maybe we wouldn't be in isolation for long. That someone is Platini. If England did it UDI it would be easy fir Blatter to portray us as arrogant. We should be past caring how Blatter decides to label us. I trust Platini to do the right thing as much as I do Blatter. Sadly, I hold Dyke in the same high regard.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 20:54:58 GMT
My god, this bloke is a human barnacle. Still, i'm certain the whole thing will come crashing down around him. The clock is ticking.
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 29, 2015 20:55:19 GMT
At some point though, someone, somewhere is going to have to do the right thing. Everybody is waiting for someone to go first. If the organisation is as corrupt as people are thinking and saying, then why would any right thinking person want to be a part of it. We gave this game to the world. Why shouldn't we be the first ones to try and reclaim it? Maybe we wouldn't be in isolation for long. That someone is Platini. If England did it UDI it would be easy fir Blatter to portray us as arrogant. But doesn't Platini see himself as a future FIFA President? If so he won't want to rock the boat too much as to jeopardise this will he?
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Post by enuntio on May 29, 2015 21:10:56 GMT
If the sponsors start pulling out then Blatter will soon follow. How many of these African and Asian countries that support Blatter democratic? It's past a joke,the longer this drags on,the bigger the fall out will be
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 21:18:38 GMT
If we lead the boycott who cares if we are left isolated?
It would not be as humiliating as carrying on as part of fifa, who have no respect for our country despite the fact that we gave the game to the world.
The next two world cups, if they go ahead, will do irreparable damage to the game. We have to pull out. Host our own tournament on these shores if we have to.
I'm sure that if England took the lead other countries would follow.
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