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Post by Northy on Feb 25, 2015 16:19:45 GMT
Michel Platini, one of the most powerful men in world football, was on Monday night under pressure to explain a secret meeting with the man at the centre of the Qatar World Cup scandal. The Telegraph has unearthed evidence that Mr Platini, a former leading French international and the president of Uefa, European football’s governing body, had a private discussion with Mohamed Bin Hammam, the controversial Qatari who paid millions of pounds to football officials around the world. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10871065/Qatar-World-Cup-2022-France-embroiled-in-corruption-scandal.html Old news I know but explains things! It's all grubbier than a baby elephant in a mud pool
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Post by ChesterStokie on Feb 25, 2015 17:26:52 GMT
As a football fan I quite like the idea of sitting in front of the TV for a month in the winter rather than the summer.
As a football fan I quite like the idea of going to watch Stoke City play in July rather than December.
Football administrators have got 7 years to plan shifting a few dates around in their diaries. They should be able to manage that.
Don't see the problem.
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Post by AlliG on Feb 25, 2015 20:07:27 GMT
As a football fan I quite like the idea of sitting in front of the TV for a month in the winter rather than the summer. As a football fan I quite like the idea of going to watch Stoke City play in July rather than December. Football administrators have got 7 years to plan shifting a few dates around in their diaries. They should be able to manage that. Don't see the problem. As a football fan I like being able to plan my holidays for the summer without having to worry whether Stoke will be at home in the weeks when me & family can get the time off. I like having a few warm, sunny months (okay. Not quite as cold!) when I can put my feet up, watch a bit of cricket and then watch a World cup game or 2 on a nice warm evening. I like going to football matches on Boxing Day. (Anyone who thinks that there will be a full programme of games on Boxing Day if the World Cup Final is played on December 23rd is deluded) I think it is fair to say that I hold the diametrically opposite view to you.
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Post by basingstokie on Feb 25, 2015 20:23:00 GMT
As a football fan I quite like the idea of sitting in front of the TV for a month in the winter rather than the summer. As a football fan I quite like the idea of going to watch Stoke City play in July rather than December. Football administrators have got 7 years to plan shifting a few dates around in their diaries. They should be able to manage that. Don't see the problem. I don't have an ideological issue with a winter world cup if Fifa announced that (say) 2026 would be a winter tournament to allow non traditional nations, who couldn't host in the summer to bid. But basically they saw the size of the wedge the Qatari's were offering and just voted for them without even looking at their bid to identify the issues. Then once the winner was announced they realised they'd dropped a bollock and have spent the last 4.5 years trying to resolve this issue without looking like the money grabbing, self serving incompetents that we all know they are.
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Post by ************** on Feb 25, 2015 21:49:47 GMT
As a football fan I quite like the idea of sitting in front of the TV for a month in the winter rather than the summer. As a football fan I quite like the idea of going to watch Stoke City play in July rather than December. Football administrators have got 7 years to plan shifting a few dates around in their diaries. They should be able to manage that. Don't see the problem. I don't have an ideological issue with a winter world cup if Fifa announced that (say) 2026 would be a winter tournament to allow non traditional nations, who couldn't host in the summer to bid. But basically they saw the size of the wedge the Qatari's were offering and just voted for them without even looking at their bid to identify the issues. Then once the winner was announced they realised they'd dropped a bollock and have spent the last 4.5 years trying to resolve this issue without looking like the money grabbing, self serving incompetents that we all know they are. Exactly. Whilst the world focusses on the mechanics of a peacemeal solution, the real clusterfuck ie the award of a WC is totally buried. PR 101. Diversion.
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Post by StokeAz on Feb 27, 2015 16:36:00 GMT
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Post by lordb on Feb 27, 2015 16:45:12 GMT
Holding a World Cup in such a small state (which is predominantly desert) is absurd. Peter Coates stated that the disruption to the European football calander is a disaster. Gary Neville states that the Middle East deserves the world cup & argues that the disruption is a price worth paying. If the World Cup was in Eqypt or at a push Saudi Arabia (or across a number of gulf states perhaps) than maybe. However it's not,it's in Qatar in November/December. It's a steaming pile of crap & stinks of corruption. However it's a done deal surely. We have to move on & deal with it.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Feb 27, 2015 16:55:16 GMT
Richard Keys has been on TalkSport saying what a brilliant World Cup it will be and that we can't expect Qatar's employment/slavery problems to be sorted out quickly as that is not the Arab way! He reckons we are moaning for the sake of moaning. So, that's another reason to boycott it if Keys likes it. Do they not pay his salary these days.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Feb 27, 2015 16:59:58 GMT
Russia is not exactly squeaky clean when it come to civil rights, racism or discrimination either. Add in warmongering to that list.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Feb 27, 2015 17:02:29 GMT
I disagree, we should not have to re-organise anything. We don't for the ACON and we shouldn't have to now.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Feb 27, 2015 17:16:00 GMT
UEFA should declare UDI - best chance they'll ever have. Lets face it NO country outside Europe or S America will ever win it and it's a nonesense that the top countries have to qualify against the likes of the Faroes, Luxemburg, Andorra, San Marino etc etc.....top 16 or 20 countries should be seeded / qualify by default allowing the best of the minnows to have a real chance of qualifying for the last 12 places say. And instead of qualifying there should be more of a league phase where over 2 years all the main countries get to play each other home & away and the top so many get to automatically qualify for the knock out stages and the rest go into the mini leagues of 4 or 5 .........
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Post by HappyClapper on Feb 27, 2015 20:18:41 GMT
Whenever it's played I won't be watching it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 20:21:28 GMT
Michel Platini, one of the most powerful men in world football, was on Monday night under pressure to explain a secret meeting with the man at the centre of the Qatar World Cup scandal. The Telegraph has unearthed evidence that Mr Platini, a former leading French international and the president of Uefa, European football’s governing body, had a private discussion with Mohamed Bin Hammam, the controversial Qatari who paid millions of pounds to football officials around the world. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10871065/Qatar-World-Cup-2022-France-embroiled-in-corruption-scandal.html Old news I know but explains things! It's all grubbier than a baby elephant in a mud pool This sums it up to perfection.
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Post by upthefud on Feb 27, 2015 21:07:38 GMT
Whenever it's played I won't be watching it. I hope more do this. I won't watch a minute of it either
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Post by stokiejoe on Feb 27, 2015 21:11:41 GMT
Having thought about it I have come to the conclusion that the Qatar World Cup should be treated like the Afcon cup; players may be released by teams but the fixtures continue, any team not fulfilling their fixtures to be penalised. We all know which clubs that would affect most and their probable reaction. Hopefully they would not be due to play one another in November and December. If that didn't cause it to be cancelled nothing will
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Post by S.O.N.S. on Feb 27, 2015 21:12:48 GMT
I don't even like Champions League now. EPL rules.
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Post by OldStokie on Feb 27, 2015 22:04:04 GMT
Where's a Kerry Packer when you need one? Surely there must be one out there who can take advantage of this situation? There are billions to be made.
OS.
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Post by baha2012 on Feb 27, 2015 22:10:17 GMT
I can see a new football federation being set up.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Feb 27, 2015 22:55:29 GMT
See Neville has joined in with the corruption, wanker,
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Post by salopstick on Feb 27, 2015 23:09:49 GMT
Apparently the ACON May need to be moved to the heat of the summer to accommodate this.
Irony
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Post by ************** on Feb 28, 2015 4:26:13 GMT
Gary Neville states that the Middle East deserves the world cup & argues that the disruption is a price worth paying. This is actually Rupert Murdoch speaking through Gary Neville. This is what happens when you make deals at the crossroads.
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Post by ************** on Feb 28, 2015 4:27:45 GMT
Apparently the ACON May need to be moved to the heat of the summer to accommodate this. Irony Santa has also been told to hang back as well. Never mind fining footballers for being poor "role models", the arrogance and deceipt of this lot sets the ultimate bad example to kids. Sickening. We should pull out of UEFA and FIFA and keep the EPL players with the clubs that pay their salaries when this shambles of a tournament starts. Get it negotiated into new EPL player contracts as of now and let's see what sort of fucking FIFA World Cup they'd have then. I think Scudamore has the power to bring FIFA to its knees and make them start sucking some scaly English football cock, if you'll forgive the rather crude visual metaphor...
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 28, 2015 4:55:28 GMT
Gary Neville, the man of the people. Poacher turned gamekeeper.
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Post by ************** on Feb 28, 2015 4:59:02 GMT
Gary Neville, the man of the people. Poacher turned gamekeeper. I think Gary Neville may very well live to regret saying this. He's just gone down a few notches in my estimation.
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 28, 2015 5:01:41 GMT
Gary Neville, the man of the people. Poacher turned gamekeeper. I think Gary Neville may very well live to regret saying this. He's just gone down a few notches in my estimation. Me too. He's been very forthright and open about a lot of things since he started punditting. In this instance he's, in the words of Bill Hicks, sucking satan's cock.
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Post by ************** on Feb 28, 2015 5:04:41 GMT
The master at work. This for you Joe
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Post by Northy on Feb 28, 2015 7:58:40 GMT
I think Gary Neville may very well live to regret saying this. He's just gone down a few notches in my estimation. Me too. He's been very forthright and open about a lot of things since he started punditting. In this instance he's, in the words of Bill Hicks, sucking satan's cock. Have Sky got the rights to the world cup then? If not I'd have thought Murdcoh would be against it as it would disrupt his coverage of the major leagues in Europe.
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Post by S.O.N.S. on Feb 28, 2015 8:31:51 GMT
Me too. He's been very forthright and open about a lot of things since he started punditting. In this instance he's, in the words of Bill Hicks, sucking satan's cock. Have Sky got the rights to the world cup then? If not I'd have thought Murdcoh would be against it as it would disrupt his coverage of the major leagues in Europe. Like any self-respecting media agency or sales organisation SKY will already be figuring out ways of turning this one-off WC event into a "once in a lifetime" opportunity for new advertisers, at a premium rate naturally. Not to mention the new market demographics that will be available for its regular advertisers over an extended EPL season. Laughing all the way to the bank....
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Post by lordb on Feb 28, 2015 9:32:24 GMT
Fox have the rights.
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Post by ************** on Feb 28, 2015 9:38:03 GMT
There you go. "Oi Nevo! Read what it says on this bloody card you big glaar"
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